come on folks, cool down !
fighting over different OSs is part of the fun. consider it a football-club discussion in
a pub ;-)
oliver
Piotr Majdak wrote:
> Marc Lavallée wrote:
>
>> Well, Windows is not an operating system, it's a gigantic kludge to
>> secure a monopolistic empire. PD works better on Gnu/Linux (and
>> probably OSX), so the more you give to Windows users, the longer they
>> will be stucked using it.
>
>
> <sarcasm>
> Yes, you're on the right way - start another flame war, we really need
> it here...
> </sarcasm>
>
> I can't speak for the rest - but I prefer constructive constributions
> here. Your opinion about different OSs doesn't contribute to this thread
> in any way...
>
> br, Piotr
>
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Call me crazy, but I just made some objects so that you can get the
info from /etc/passwd and /etc/group, and convert between UIDs/GIDs
and usernames/groupnames. Its part of my effort to provide as many
low level primitives within Pd as possible. Or really, its make a
libc interface for Pd.
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html
Of course, these will be included in the next Pd-extended release. I
haven't touched Windows yet, but I plan on it.
.hc
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Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to
realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either
change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
Another test build with random fixes, and a couple key ones:
- big updates to [hid] on Mac OS X (Windows and GNU/Linux coming soon)
- all of the creb C objects included on all platforms
I am especially interested in feedback on the [hid] for Mac OS X.
After this, there will be no more updates to [hid], instead I will
move all the code to a new name, and start making incompatible
changes to solve some key issues.
.hc
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I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and
during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man
for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers.
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CALL FOR ARTWORKS - please forward
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INTERFACE and SOCIETY
a project by Atelier Nord http://anart.no
exhibition Nov.10th - Nov.19th 2006
at Henie Onstad Kunstsenter Oslo Norway.
http://anart.no/projects/interface-and-society/
Atelier Nord is looking for artworks/installations
concerning the transformation of our everyday live
through electronic interfaces (see details below).
APPLICATION DEADLINE 1st July 2006.
Please apply via email to sense(a)anart.no
subject: INTERFACE and SOCIETY exhibition
with the following information:
1) Project name / year of production
2) Artist name(s) + email / contact information
3) Short project description
4) Project URL + URL for online documentation (pdf, pictures, video)
5) Short CV
Alternatively you can send the requested information via snailmail to:
Atelier Nord
Lakkegata 55 D
N-0187 Oslo Norway
ad: INTERFACE and SOCIETY exhibition
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INTERFACE and SOCIETY
In our everyday life we constantly have to cope more or less successfully
with interfaces. We use the mobile phone, the mp3 player, and our laptop,
in order to gain access to the digital part of our life. In recent years
this situation has lead to the creation of new interdisciplinary subjects
like "Interaction Design" or "Physical Computing".
We live between two worlds, our physical environment and the digital
space. Technology and its digital space are our second nature and the
interfaces are our points of access to this technosphere.
Since artists started working with technology they have been developing
interfaces and modes of interaction. The interface itself became an
artistic thematic.
The project INTERFACE and SOCIETY investigates how artists deal with
the transformation of our everyday life through technical interfaces.
With the rapid technological development a thoroughly critique of the
interface towards society is necessary.
The role of the artist is thereby crucial. S/he has the freedom to
deal with technologies and interfaces beyond functionality and usability.
The project INTERFACE and SOCIETY is looking at this development
with a special focus on the artistic contribution.
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INTERFACE and SOCIETY is an umbrella for a range of activities
throughout 2006 at Atelier Nord in Oslo. Read more at:
http://anart.no/projects/interface-and-society/
after a grace period of several weeks and some positive replies i will
now make the switch to add pd-list to the pd-announce subscribers.
This means that each email that is sent to Pd-announce will
automatically pop up at Pd-list.
People who are currently subscribed to Pd-list (with mail-delivery
enabled) will have mails from Pd-announce disabled. This is a one time
action (happening immediately after i sent this email); feel free to
re-enable the Pd-announce delivery via your mailman-webinterface if you
feel the urge to do so.
People who are only subscribed to the Pd-announce list are not affected
by this change.
this should make cross-postings of announcements to both the
announcement-list and the main-list unneccessary.
mfg.asdr.
IOhannes
PS: this mail will appear on both mailing lists (so you might get it
double); i will change this after i sent this email
I've got an experimental version of Pd compiled for imac available on
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html ... unfortunately, since it
seemed advisable to update portaudio to the new, completely rewritten one,
it would be unwise to retrofit this to Pd 0.39 (might change latencies
or other things for pre-existing platforms).
I made up a new file extension for externs (pd_imac) ... we could always
go to a "sensible" naming convention in the future and stay back compatible,
if people think it's too ad hoc. In the long term, the set of architectures/
OSes seems set to stay at around hald a dozen active ones, so there's no
big problem just making up names unsystematically.
The only other policy implication is this: I'm using files from the
supplied "Wish shell.app" on Imac, which seems a reasonable thing to
do, but strictly speaking it's probably more correct to download a
bsd-licensed wish shell or recompile it from source. That shouldn't
be too difficult to do, I hope.
cheers
Miller
I wrote two objects for doing PWM in Pd, one at message rate, the
other at audio rate:
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html
If you want to know what PWM is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-width_modulation
Of course, these will be included in Pd-extended, and already
partially are.
.hc
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¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!
Hej Hans,
thanks for the contribution, we will post it to the website once tested
and confirmed that your doubts about the communication are not an issue.
Hasta pronto from Malmoe, Sweden,
David Cuartielles
Prototyping Laboratory
Interaction Design
K3 . Malmo University
20506 Malmo
Sweden
+4640 665 7220
david.cuartielles(a)k3.mah.se
>>> Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> 06-05-22 20:30 >>>
Here's the first test release of Pduino, the Pd firmware for Arduino
(http://arduino.cc) and a matching Pd object, [arduino]. This allows
you get data from the digital and analog inputs, and send data to the
PWM and digital outputs. It also allows you to change the digital
pins from input, output, or PWM. And you can choose how many analog
inputs and turn on/off digital input.
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html
Keep in mind its a test release, the only thing I am not sure about
right now is digitalInput, everything else seems to work fine.
.hc
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"Information wants to be free."
-Stewart Brand
Here's the first test release of Pduino, the Pd firmware for Arduino
(http://arduino.cc) and a matching Pd object, [arduino]. This allows
you get data from the digital and analog inputs, and send data to the
PWM and digital outputs. It also allows you to change the digital
pins from input, output, or PWM. And you can choose how many analog
inputs and turn on/off digital input.
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html
Keep in mind its a test release, the only thing I am not sure about
right now is digitalInput, everything else seems to work fine.
.hc
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"Information wants to be free."
-Stewart Brand