On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Le 17/07/2017 à 12:13, Dan Wilcox a écrit : [...]
- The translation build system has been updated as it wasn't automatically refreshing the translation files. For translators, there should be new strings to add and other to update (see po/README.txt for details). For users, the menu titles should now be translated for those languages which do so.
I'm updating the french translation file, but I've got a problem with the line :
msgid "file edit put find media window help"
if I translate this line, the pg GUI will not start.
That line should be removed as it's been replaced by each menu item as a separate string. The reason why Pd can't start is that the strings in that list are used to call procedures ala pd_start_file, pd_start_edit, etc. Changing them means tcl errors early in the startup and nothing seems to happen. I figured this out the hard way too :)
should I just ignore this line?
Yes. I will check the Tcl to make sure it shouldn't appear in the translations. That might be an artifact to my earlier experiments.
What is the best process to share this file : forking pd on sourforce git, changing the file and doing a push request?
Whichever works best for Miller, really. We've been working successfully by doing small feature Pos via Github as well. Since it's likely a small update, you could generate a patch and send to pd-list as well. I'm finding GitHub easiest for my workflow, but use whatever works for you :)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Fixed in a bugfix PR: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/109 https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/109
On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Le 17/07/2017 à 12:13, Dan Wilcox a écrit : [...]
- The translation build system has been updated as it wasn't automatically refreshing the translation files. For translators, there should be new strings to add and other to update (see po/README.txt for details). For users, the menu titles should now be translated for those languages which do so.
I'm updating the french translation file, but I've got a problem with the line :
msgid "file edit put find media window help"
if I translate this line, the pg GUI will not start.
That line should be removed as it's been replaced by each menu item as a separate string. The reason why Pd can't start is that the strings in that list are used to call procedures ala pd_start_file, pd_start_edit, etc. Changing them means tcl errors early in the startup and nothing seems to happen. I figured this out the hard way too :)
should I just ignore this line?
Yes. I will check the Tcl to make sure it shouldn't appear in the translations. That might be an artifact to my earlier experiments.
What is the best process to share this file : forking pd on sourforce git, changing the file and doing a push request?
Whichever works best for Miller, really. We've been working successfully by doing small feature Pos via Github as well. Since it's likely a small update, you could generate a patch and send to pd-list as well. I'm finding GitHub easiest for my workflow, but use whatever works for you :)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
hello,
I'm sorry, i don't have time, so here is only a diff.
Since I made small modification of the existing translation, I copy this mail to the 2 other author of the original translation for verification.
thanks and cheers c
Le 19/07/2017 à 10:46, Dan Wilcox a écrit :
On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Le 17/07/2017 à 12:13, Dan Wilcox a écrit : [...]
- The translation build system has been updated as it wasn't automatically refreshing the translation files. For translators, there should be new strings to add and other to update (see po/README.txt for details). For users, the menu titles should now be translated for those languages which do so.
I'm updating the french translation file, but I've got a problem with the line :
msgid "file edit put find media window help"
if I translate this line, the pg GUI will not start.
That line should be removed as it's been replaced by each menu item as a separate string. The reason why Pd can't start is that the strings in that list are used to call procedures ala pd_start_file, pd_start_edit, etc. Changing them means tcl errors early in the startup and nothing seems to happen. I figured this out the hard way too :)
should I just ignore this line?
Yes. I will check the Tcl to make sure it shouldn't appear in the translations. That might be an artifact to my earlier experiments.
What is the best process to share this file : forking pd on sourforce git, changing the file and doing a push request?
Whichever works best for Miller, really. We've been working successfully by doing small feature Pos via Github as well. Since it's likely a small update, you could generate a patch and send to pd-list as well. I'm finding GitHub easiest for my workflow, but use whatever works for you :)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com
I was able to apply the diff, more or less. There was a slight positioning change after I removed the menu list string, so someone might want to do a quick double check: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/703c1f8d5d268ceb74e99d1420906fd1... https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/703c1f8d5d268ceb74e99d1420906fd1519aca24/po/fr.po
On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:06 PM, cyrille henry ch@chnry.net wrote:
hello,
I'm sorry, i don't have time, so here is only a diff.
Since I made small modification of the existing translation, I copy this mail to the 2 other author of the original translation for verification.
thanks and cheers c
Le 19/07/2017 à 10:46, Dan Wilcox a écrit :
On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Le 17/07/2017 à 12:13, Dan Wilcox a écrit : [...]
- The translation build system has been updated as it wasn't automatically refreshing the translation files. For translators, there should be new strings to add and other to update (see po/README.txt for details). For users, the menu titles should now be translated for those languages which do so.
I'm updating the french translation file, but I've got a problem with the line :
msgid "file edit put find media window help"
if I translate this line, the pg GUI will not start.
That line should be removed as it's been replaced by each menu item as a separate string. The reason why Pd can't start is that the strings in that list are used to call procedures ala pd_start_file, pd_start_edit, etc. Changing them means tcl errors early in the startup and nothing seems to happen. I figured this out the hard way too :)
should I just ignore this line?
Yes. I will check the Tcl to make sure it shouldn't appear in the translations. That might be an artifact to my earlier experiments.
What is the best process to share this file : forking pd on sourforce git, changing the file and doing a push request?
Whichever works best for Miller, really. We've been working successfully by doing small feature Pos via Github as well. Since it's likely a small update, you could generate a patch and send to pd-list as well. I'm finding GitHub easiest for my workflow, but use whatever works for you :)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com
<diff_fr.po.txt>
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
hi, may I ask where can I find, edit and check out the brazilian portuguese translation of pd, or add it?
thanks
2017-07-19 11:23 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
I was able to apply the diff, more or less. There was a slight positioning change after I removed the menu list string, so someone might want to do a quick double check: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/ 703c1f8d5d268ceb74e99d1420906fd1519aca24/po/fr.po
On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:06 PM, cyrille henry ch@chnry.net wrote:
hello,
I'm sorry, i don't have time, so here is only a diff.
Since I made small modification of the existing translation, I copy this mail to the 2 other author of the original translation for verification.
thanks and cheers c
Le 19/07/2017 à 10:46, Dan Wilcox a écrit :
On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at < mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> wrote:
Le 17/07/2017 à 12:13, Dan Wilcox a écrit : [...]
- The translation build system has been updated as it wasn't automatically
refreshing the translation files. For translators, there should be new strings to add and other to update (see po/README.txt for details). For users, the menu titles should now be translated for those languages which do so.
I'm updating the french translation file, but I've got a problem with the line :
msgid "file edit put find media window help"
if I translate this line, the pg GUI will not start.
That line should be removed as it's been replaced by each menu item as a separate string. The reason why Pd can't start is that the strings in that list are used to call procedures ala pd_start_file, pd_start_edit, etc. Changing them means tcl errors early in the startup and nothing seems to happen. I figured this out the hard way too :)
should I just ignore this line?
Yes. I will check the Tcl to make sure it shouldn't appear in the translations. That might be an artifact to my earlier experiments.
What is the best process to share this file : forking pd on sourforce git, changing the file and doing a push request?
Whichever works best for Miller, really. We've been working successfully by doing small feature Pos via Github as well. Since it's likely a small update, you could generate a patch and send to pd-list as well. I'm finding GitHub easiest for my workflow, but use whatever works for you :)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com
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in the po directory. have a look at the readme.txt cheers c
Le 19/07/2017 à 18:26, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :
hi, may I ask where can I find, edit and check out the brazilian portuguese translation of pd, or add it?
thanks
2017-07-19 11:23 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com>:
I was able to apply the diff, more or less. There was a slight positioning change after I removed the menu list string, so someone might want to do a quick double check: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/703c1f8d5d268ceb74e99d1420906fd1519aca24/po/fr.po <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/703c1f8d5d268ceb74e99d1420906fd1519aca24/po/fr.po>On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:06 PM, cyrille henry <ch@chnry.net <mailto:ch@chnry.net>> wrote: hello, I'm sorry, i don't have time, so here is only a diff. Since I made small modification of the existing translation, I copy this mail to the 2 other author of the original translation for verification. thanks and cheers c Le 19/07/2017 à 10:46, Dan Wilcox a écrit :On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at>> wrote: Le 17/07/2017 à 12:13, Dan Wilcox a écrit : [...]* The translation build system has been updated as it wasn't automatically refreshing the translation files. For translators, there should be new strings to add and other to update (see po/README.txt for details). For users, the menu titles should now be translated for those languages which do so.I'm updating the french translation file, but I've got a problem with the line : msgid "file edit put find media window help" if I translate this line, the pg GUI will not start.That line should be removed as it's been replaced by each menu item as a separate string. The reason why Pd can't start is that the strings in that list are used to call procedures ala pd_start_file, pd_start_edit, etc. Changing them means tcl errors early in the startup and nothing seems to happen. I figured this out the hard way too :)should I just ignore this line?Yes. I will check the Tcl to make sure it shouldn't appear in the translations. That might be an artifact to my earlier experiments.What is the best process to share this file : forking pd on sourforce git, changing the file and doing a push request?Whichever works best for Miller, really. We've been working successfully by doing small feature Pos via Github as well. Since it's likely a small update, you could generate a patch and send to pd-list as well. I'm finding GitHub easiest for my workflow, but use whatever works for you :) -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com> <http://danomatika.com> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com> <http://robotcowboy.com><diff_fr.po.txt>-------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com> _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list>
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Thanks, seems like it is from the file I edit from portuguese-PT with Palmieri long time ago for pd extended 0.43, right?
So, I'm checking this with Pd 0.48, and I can see that some translations do not appear, but they are there in the file. For instance, in the canvas' properties, "Height" and "Visible Rectangle (pix)" are still in english as originally, but these seem to be translated in the file.
Also, the translation of "init"/"no init" cannot fit in the current spaca available, is the only solution to make this larger for all languages?
cheers
2017-07-19 13:31 GMT-03:00 cyrille henry ch@chnry.net:
in the po directory. have a look at the readme.txt cheers c
Le 19/07/2017 à 18:26, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :
hi, may I ask where can I find, edit and check out the brazilian portuguese translation of pd, or add it?
thanks
2017-07-19 11:23 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto: danomatika@gmail.com>:
I was able to apply the diff, more or less. There was a slightpositioning change after I removed the menu list string, so someone might want to do a quick double check: https://github.com/pure-data/p ure-data/blob/703c1f8d5d268ceb74e99d1420906fd1519aca24/po/fr.po < https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/703c1f8d5d268ce b74e99d1420906fd1519aca24/po/fr.po>
On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:06 PM, cyrille henry <ch@chnry.net <mailto:ch@chnry.net>> wrote:
hello, I'm sorry, i don't have time, so here is only a diff. Since I made small modification of the existing translation, I copythis mail to the 2 other author of the original translation for verification.
thanks and cheers c Le 19/07/2017 à 10:46, Dan Wilcox a écrit :On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> wrote:
Le 17/07/2017 à 12:13, Dan Wilcox a écrit : [...]* The translation build system has been updated as it wasn'tautomatically refreshing the translation files. For translators, there should be new strings to add and other to update (see po/README.txt for details). For users, the menu titles should now be translated for those languages which do so.
I'm updating the french translation file, but I've got a problemwith the line :
msgid "file edit put find media window help" if I translate this line, the pg GUI will not start.That line should be removed as it's been replaced by each menu itemas a separate string. The reason why Pd can't start is that the strings in that list are used to call procedures ala pd_start_file, pd_start_edit, etc. Changing them means tcl errors early in the startup and nothing seems to happen. I figured this out the hard way too :)
should I just ignore this line?Yes. I will check the Tcl to make sure it shouldn't appear in thetranslations. That might be an artifact to my earlier experiments.
What is the best process to share this file : forking pd onsourforce git, changing the file and doing a push request?
Whichever works best for Miller, really. We've been workingsuccessfully by doing small feature Pos via Github as well. Since it's likely a small update, you could generate a patch and send to pd-list as well. I'm finding GitHub easiest for my workflow, but use whatever works for you :) -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com http://danomatika.com robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com
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Look in the po directory? There happens to be a pt_br.po file there...
Also, checkout the po/README.txt for the overview of how the translation system works.
On Jul 19, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote:
hi, may I ask where can I find, edit and check out the brazilian portuguese translation of pd, or add it?
thanks
2017-07-19 11:23 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com>: I was able to apply the diff, more or less. There was a slight positioning change after I removed the menu list string, so someone might want to do a quick double check: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/703c1f8d5d268ceb74e99d1420906fd1... https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/703c1f8d5d268ceb74e99d1420906fd1519aca24/po/fr.po
On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:06 PM, cyrille henry <ch@chnry.net mailto:ch@chnry.net> wrote:
hello,
I'm sorry, i don't have time, so here is only a diff.
Since I made small modification of the existing translation, I copy this mail to the 2 other author of the original translation for verification.
thanks and cheers c
Le 19/07/2017 à 10:46, Dan Wilcox a écrit :
On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> wrote:
Le 17/07/2017 à 12:13, Dan Wilcox a écrit : [...]
- The translation build system has been updated as it wasn't automatically refreshing the translation files. For translators, there should be new strings to add and other to update (see po/README.txt for details). For users, the menu titles should now be translated for those languages which do so.
I'm updating the french translation file, but I've got a problem with the line :
msgid "file edit put find media window help"
if I translate this line, the pg GUI will not start.
That line should be removed as it's been replaced by each menu item as a separate string. The reason why Pd can't start is that the strings in that list are used to call procedures ala pd_start_file, pd_start_edit, etc. Changing them means tcl errors early in the startup and nothing seems to happen. I figured this out the hard way too :)
should I just ignore this line?
Yes. I will check the Tcl to make sure it shouldn't appear in the translations. That might be an artifact to my earlier experiments.
What is the best process to share this file : forking pd on sourforce git, changing the file and doing a push request?
Whichever works best for Miller, really. We've been working successfully by doing small feature Pos via Github as well. Since it's likely a small update, you could generate a patch and send to pd-list as well. I'm finding GitHub easiest for my workflow, but use whatever works for you :)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ <http://danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/ <http://robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/>
<diff_fr.po.txt>
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I'd like to find the time to properly review the french translation of the new strings, but alas...
"paramettres" > "paramètres" "deplacement" > "déplacement" "CARACTERE MANQUANT" > "CARACTÈRE MANQUANT" "Charger a partir de" > "Charger à partir de" "Sauver toutes les Préférences" > "Sauver toutes les préférences" "Réglage" > "Réglages" "Nombre de chiffre à afficher:" > "Nombre de chiffres à afficher:" "Temps du flash (ms):" > "Durée du flash (ms):" "échele_de_sortie" >"échelle_de_sortie"
2017-07-19 16:06 GMT+02:00 cyrille henry ch@chnry.net:
hello,
I'm sorry, i don't have time, so here is only a diff.
Since I made small modification of the existing translation, I copy this mail to the 2 other author of the original translation for verification.
thanks and cheers c
Le 19/07/2017 à 10:46, Dan Wilcox a écrit :
On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at <mailto:
pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> wrote:
Le 17/07/2017 à 12:13, Dan Wilcox a écrit : [...]
- The translation build system has been updated as it wasn't
automatically refreshing the translation files. For translators, there should be new strings to add and other to update (see po/README.txt for details). For users, the menu titles should now be translated for those languages which do so.
I'm updating the french translation file, but I've got a problem with the line :
msgid "file edit put find media window help"
if I translate this line, the pg GUI will not start.
That line should be removed as it's been replaced by each menu item as a separate string. The reason why Pd can't start is that the strings in that list are used to call procedures ala pd_start_file, pd_start_edit, etc. Changing them means tcl errors early in the startup and nothing seems to happen. I figured this out the hard way too :)
should I just ignore this line?
Yes. I will check the Tcl to make sure it shouldn't appear in the translations. That might be an artifact to my earlier experiments.
What is the best process to share this file : forking pd on sourforce
git, changing the file and doing a push request?
Whichever works best for Miller, really. We've been working successfully by doing small feature Pos via Github as well. Since it's likely a small update, you could generate a patch and send to pd-list as well. I'm finding GitHub easiest for my workflow, but use whatever works for you :)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list
Ok. I think I have most of those now: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/116/commits/217faea622f63ef97206... https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/116/commits/217faea622f63ef972069bc5e78671092486906e
Also removed the #fuzzy keywords from things which are fixed and added some missing colons.
On Jul 20, 2017, at 12:23 PM, baptiste chatel baptiste.chatel@gmail.com wrote:
I'd like to find the time to properly review the french translation of the new strings, but alas...
"paramettres" > "paramètres" "deplacement" > "déplacement" "CARACTERE MANQUANT" > "CARACTÈRE MANQUANT" "Charger a partir de" > "Charger à partir de" "Sauver toutes les Préférences" > "Sauver toutes les préférences" "Réglage" > "Réglages" "Nombre de chiffre à afficher:" > "Nombre de chiffres à afficher:" "Temps du flash (ms):" > "Durée du flash (ms):" "échele_de_sortie" >"échelle_de_sortie"
2017-07-19 16:06 GMT+02:00 cyrille henry <ch@chnry.net mailto:ch@chnry.net>: hello,
I'm sorry, i don't have time, so here is only a diff.
Since I made small modification of the existing translation, I copy this mail to the 2 other author of the original translation for verification.
thanks and cheers c
Le 19/07/2017 à 10:46, Dan Wilcox a écrit :
On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> wrote:
Le 17/07/2017 à 12:13, Dan Wilcox a écrit : [...]
- The translation build system has been updated as it wasn't automatically refreshing the translation files. For translators, there should be new strings to add and other to update (see po/README.txt for details). For users, the menu titles should now be translated for those languages which do so.
I'm updating the french translation file, but I've got a problem with the line :
msgid "file edit put find media window help"
if I translate this line, the pg GUI will not start.
That line should be removed as it's been replaced by each menu item as a separate string. The reason why Pd can't start is that the strings in that list are used to call procedures ala pd_start_file, pd_start_edit, etc. Changing them means tcl errors early in the startup and nothing seems to happen. I figured this out the hard way too :)
should I just ignore this line?
Yes. I will check the Tcl to make sure it shouldn't appear in the translations. That might be an artifact to my earlier experiments.
What is the best process to share this file : forking pd on sourforce git, changing the file and doing a push request?
Whichever works best for Miller, really. We've been working successfully by doing small feature Pos via Github as well. Since it's likely a small update, you could generate a patch and send to pd-list as well. I'm finding GitHub easiest for my workflow, but use whatever works for you :)
Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ <http://danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/ <http://robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/>
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2017-07-20 7:53 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
Ok. I think I have most of those now: https://github.com/pure-data/ pure-data/pull/116/commits/217faea622f63ef972069bc5e78671092486906e
Also removed the #fuzzy keywords from things which are fixed and added some missing colons.
so it was the #fuzzr thing that prevented translation from loading, I see... well, I removed them all from the br-pt, cause I fixed them. And I seem to have found new things to translate, so I did translate them as well...
One last thing, when trying this, I get "Áudio desligado" when I start Pd, but then when I tick the dsp toggle and turn it on, I get "Audio on" in english. I tried to find where to translate this in the file, but I couldn't find it. Now for the real weird part, when turning the DSP off, I don't get the portuguese term no more, but "Audio off" in english. So it only comes up first.
here's my translation file again, to you
thanks
This would be much easier as a PR.
On Jul 20, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote:
2017-07-20 7:53 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com>: Ok. I think I have most of those now: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/116/commits/217faea622f63ef97206... https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/116/commits/217faea622f63ef972069bc5e78671092486906e
Also removed the #fuzzy keywords from things which are fixed and added some missing colons.
so it was the #fuzzr thing that prevented translation from loading, I see... well, I removed them all from the br-pt, cause I fixed them. And I seem to have found new things to translate, so I did translate them as well...
One last thing, when trying this, I get "Áudio desligado" when I start Pd, but then when I tick the dsp toggle and turn it on, I get "Audio on" in english. I tried to find where to translate this in the file, but I couldn't find it. Now for the real weird part, when turning the DSP off, I don't get the portuguese term no more, but "Audio off" in english. So it only comes up first.
here's my translation file again, to you
thanks <pt_br.po>
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
sure, I'll give it a try, in the meantime, what do you make of the Audio On/Off issue? And the fact that there doesn't seem to be an "Audio On" term to translate?
By the way, I also don't see a few other terms to translate, like "Hide Pd" / "Quit Pd"
And I was also able to spot a couple more issues. "Help" Menu is not translating, as well as the "Search" term. But "fuziness" has been removed.
cheers
2017-07-20 14:09 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
This would be much easier as a PR.
On Jul 20, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote:
2017-07-20 7:53 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
Ok. I think I have most of those now: https://github.com/pure-data/p ure-data/pull/116/commits/217faea622f63ef972069bc5e78671092486906e
Also removed the #fuzzy keywords from things which are fixed and added some missing colons.
so it was the #fuzzr thing that prevented translation from loading, I see... well, I removed them all from the br-pt, cause I fixed them. And I seem to have found new things to translate, so I did translate them as well...
One last thing, when trying this, I get "Áudio desligado" when I start Pd, but then when I tick the dsp toggle and turn it on, I get "Audio on" in english. I tried to find where to translate this in the file, but I couldn't find it. Now for the real weird part, when turning the DSP off, I don't get the portuguese term no more, but "Audio off" in english. So it only comes up first.
here's my translation file again, to you
thanks <pt_br.po>
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
It helps to RTFM some times: (https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/PO-Files.html https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/PO-Files.html)
This flag can be generated by the msgmerge program or it can be inserted by the translator herself. It shows that the msgstr string might not be a correct translation (anymore). Only the translator can judge if the translation requires further modification, or is acceptable as is. Once satisfied with the translation, she then removes this fuzzy attribute. The msgmerge program inserts this when it combined the msgid and msgstr entries after fuzzy search only.
Fuzzy is only a mark for things gettext thinks have changed and the translation may not be 100% correct any more. It does not keep that string from being used.
On Jul 20, 2017, at 7:25 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote:
sure, I'll give it a try, in the meantime, what do you make of the Audio On/Off issue? And the fact that there doesn't seem to be an "Audio On" term to translate?
Looks like those aren't being caught by the translation system. I can fix that.
By the way, I also don't see a few other terms to translate, like "Hide Pd" / "Quit Pd" And I was also able to spot a couple more issues. "Help" Menu is not translating, as well as the "Search" term.
Those are coming from the window manager and not Tcl. It should be translated if you macOS system language is Brazilian as well. If not, then I don't know.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
2017-07-20 14:35 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
On Jul 20, 2017, at 7:25 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote:
sure, I'll give it a try, in the meantime, what do you make of the Audio On/Off issue? And the fact that there doesn't seem to be an "Audio On" term to translate?
Looks like those aren't being caught by the translation system. I can fix that.
Here's what I found. In Pd 0.47, you have "Audio I/O off" at start up, then it goes to Audio On / Off when toggling dsp. So "Audio I/O off" only appears once.
Now, by looking at the translation file, I do not see "Audio I/O off", but only "Audio off", which seems to be used now instead of "Audio I/O off"? But you still have some "Audio On / Off" somewhere else?
By the way, I also don't see a few other terms to translate, like "Hide Pd" / "Quit Pd"
And I was also able to spot a couple more issues. "Help" Menu is not translating, as well as the "Search" term.
Those are coming from the window manager and not Tcl. It should be translated if you macOS system language is Brazilian as well. If not, then I don't know.
well, I have it in brazilian portuguese, and it is working for other softwares, such as "the Google Chrome" I'm using right now. So maybe it's something we could fix inside Pd.
cheers
On Jul 20, 2017, at 7:44 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote: 2017-07-20 14:35 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com>:
On Jul 20, 2017, at 7:25 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com mailto:porres@gmail.com> wrote:
sure, I'll give it a try, in the meantime, what do you make of the Audio On/Off issue? And the fact that there doesn't seem to be an "Audio On" term to translate?
Looks like those aren't being caught by the translation system. I can fix that.
Here's what I found. In Pd 0.47, you have "Audio I/O off" at start up, then it goes to Audio On / Off when toggling dsp. So "Audio I/O off" only appears once.
Now, by looking at the translation file, I do not see "Audio I/O off", but only "Audio off", which seems to be used now instead of "Audio I/O off"? But you still have some "Audio On / Off" somewhere else?
I already have a fix. Make your PR off the update/test3-fixes branch: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/123 https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/123
By the way, I also don't see a few other terms to translate, like "Hide Pd" / "Quit Pd" And I was also able to spot a couple more issues. "Help" Menu is not translating, as well as the "Search" term.
Those are coming from the window manager and not Tcl. It should be translated if you macOS system language is Brazilian as well. If not, then I don't know.
well, I have it in brazilian portuguese, and it is working for other softwares, such as "the Google Chrome" I'm using right now. So maybe it's something we could fix inside Pd.
It's not. Those strings re not in Pd, they are being built from the menus within Tk somewhere. Maybe this is fixed in a newer Tk, but it's not something that can be done from within the Pd GUI tcl.
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
I've also pulled in IOhannes deke update which introduces more strings. Hopefully we'll calm down on the new translation string updates soon. If you fork the pure-data repo and checkout the update/test3-fixes branch, you can then pull in any changes we are making without getting too out of sync.
I already have a fix. Make your PR off the update/test3-fixes branch: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/123 https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/123
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
2017-07-20 14:50 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
well, I have it in brazilian portuguese, and it is working for other softwares, such as "the Google Chrome" I'm using right now. So maybe it's something we could fix inside Pd.
It's not. Those strings re not in Pd, they are being built from the menus within Tk somewhere. Maybe this is fixed in a newer Tk, but it's not something that can be done from within the Pd GUI tcl.
So, tried the new test 5 version, and indeed "Help" is now translated to "Ajuda", but other things aren't, like "Search", "Hide/Quit Pd".
2017-07-20 14:35 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
It helps to RTFM some times: (https://www.gnu.org/software/ gettext/manual/html_node/PO-Files.html)
*This flag can be generated by the msgmerge program or it can be inserted by the translator herself. It shows that the msgstr string might not be a correct translation (anymore). Only the translator can judge if the translation requires further modification, or is acceptable as is. Once satisfied with the translation, she then removes this fuzzy attribute. The msgmerge program inserts this when it combined the msgid and msgstr entries after fuzzy search only.*
Fuzzy is only a mark for things gettext thinks have changed and the translation may not be 100% correct any more. It does not keep that string from being used.
weirdly enough, when I removed them, things showed up, while it didn't before - but I know nothing, so maybe I did something else?
Remember, when you make a change to the po file, you have to rebuild the .msg file for it but running make, otherwise you won't see your updates.
On Jul 20, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote:
2017-07-20 14:35 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com>:
It helps to RTFM some times: (https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/PO-Files.html https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/PO-Files.html)
This flag can be generated by the msgmerge program or it can be inserted by the translator herself. It shows that the msgstr string might not be a correct translation (anymore). Only the translator can judge if the translation requires further modification, or is acceptable as is. Once satisfied with the translation, she then removes this fuzzy attribute. The msgmerge program inserts this when it combined the msgid and msgstr entries after fuzzy search only.
Fuzzy is only a mark for things gettext thinks have changed and the translation may not be 100% correct any more. It does not keep that string from being used.
weirdly enough, when I removed them, things showed up, while it didn't before - but I know nothing, so maybe I did something else?
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
2017-07-20 14:51 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
Remember, when you make a change to the po file, you have to rebuild the .msg file for it but running make, otherwise you won't see your updates.
I'm doing "make clean" "make" "make app"
then trying the new stuff,
is that enough?
If you're only updating the po file, you don't need to do a clean. I use the following for testing the app bundle:
make make app open Pd-0.48.0.app
You can also test pd with the app:
make cd bin && ./pd && cd -
The cd lines will work as long as you close Pd from the GUI and don't quit it on the command line.
On Jul 20, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote:
2017-07-20 14:51 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com>: Remember, when you make a change to the po file, you have to rebuild the .msg file for it but running make, otherwise you won't see your updates.
I'm doing "make clean" "make" "make app"
then trying the new stuff,
is that enough?
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
well, I hope I successfully made a Pull Request to your branch, let's see how that goes
2017-07-20 15:09 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
If you're only updating the po file, you don't need to do a clean. I use the following for testing the app bundle:
make make app open Pd-0.48.0.app
You can also test pd with the app:
make cd bin && ./pd && cd -
The cd lines will work as long as you close Pd from the GUI and don't quit it on the command line.
On Jul 20, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote:
2017-07-20 14:51 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
Remember, when you make a change to the po file, you have to rebuild the .msg file for it but running make, otherwise you won't see your updates.
I'm doing "make clean" "make" "make app"
then trying the new stuff,
is that enough?
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
hi, original english has
"msgid "Show &Hidden Files and Directories""
Seems this "&" is wrong, right?
2017-07-20 15:35 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com:
well, I hope I successfully made a Pull Request to your branch, let's see how that goes
2017-07-20 15:09 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
If you're only updating the po file, you don't need to do a clean. I use the following for testing the app bundle:
make make app open Pd-0.48.0.app
You can also test pd with the app:
make cd bin && ./pd && cd -
The cd lines will work as long as you close Pd from the GUI and don't quit it on the command line.
On Jul 20, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote:
2017-07-20 14:51 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com:
Remember, when you make a change to the po file, you have to rebuild the .msg file for it but running make, otherwise you won't see your updates.
I'm doing "make clean" "make" "make app"
then trying the new stuff,
is that enough?
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
thanks Baptiste for the review and Dan for the commit!
Le 20/07/2017 à 12:53, Dan Wilcox a écrit :
Ok. I think I have most of those now: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/116/commits/217faea622f63ef97206...
Also removed the #fuzzy keywords from things which are fixed and added some missing colons.
On Jul 20, 2017, at 12:23 PM, baptiste chatel <baptiste.chatel@gmail.com mailto:baptiste.chatel@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd like to find the time to properly review the french translation of the new strings, but alas...
"paramettres" > "paramètres" "deplacement" > "déplacement" "CARACTERE MANQUANT" > "CARACTÈRE MANQUANT" "Charger a partir de" > "Charger à partir de" "Sauver toutes les Préférences" > "Sauver toutes les préférences" "Réglage" > "Réglages" "Nombre de chiffre à afficher:" > "Nombre de chiffres à afficher:" "Temps du flash (ms):" > "Durée du flash (ms):" "échele_de_sortie" >"échelle_de_sortie"
2017-07-19 16:06 GMT+02:00 cyrille henry <ch@chnry.net mailto:ch@chnry.net>:
hello, I'm sorry, i don't have time, so here is only a diff. Since I made small modification of the existing translation, I copy this mail to the 2 other author of the original translation for verification. thanks and cheers c Le 19/07/2017 à 10:46, Dan Wilcox a écrit : On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at>> wrote: Le 17/07/2017 à 12:13, Dan Wilcox a écrit : [...] * The translation build system has been updated as it wasn't automatically refreshing the translation files. For translators, there should be new strings to add and other to update (see po/README.txt for details). For users, the menu titles should now be translated for those languages which do so. I'm updating the french translation file, but I've got a problem with the line : msgid "file edit put find media window help" if I translate this line, the pg GUI will not start. That line should be removed as it's been replaced by each menu item as a separate string. The reason why Pd can't start is that the strings in that list are used to call procedures ala pd_start_file, pd_start_edit, etc. Changing them means tcl errors early in the startup and nothing seems to happen. I figured this out the hard way too :) should I just ignore this line? Yes. I will check the Tcl to make sure it shouldn't appear in the translations. That might be an artifact to my earlier experiments. What is the best process to share this file : forking pd on sourforce git, changing the file and doing a push request? Whichever works best for Miller, really. We've been working successfully by doing small feature Pos via Github as well. Since it's likely a small update, you could generate a patch and send to pd-list as well. I'm finding GitHub easiest for my workflow, but use whatever works for you :) -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> <http://danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> <http://robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>> _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list>
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