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Not receiving mailing list replies to own thread?
by Peter P. 04 Oct '24

04 Oct '24

Hi list, all the helpful replies to my initial question https://lists.iem.at/hyperkitty/list/pd-list@lists.iem.at/thread/7EF2SASANM… seem to not have been emailed to me (yes, I checked spam) and I only discovered them today by looking at the new mailing list archive. Is the mailing list fully functional? Has anyone else experienced likewise problems? Thanks! Peter

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links on pd.iem.at point only to old mailing list/archive
by Peter P. 03 Oct '24

03 Oct '24

Hi list, IOhannes, http://pd.iem.at/ my one stop shop for accessing the mailing list archives, still points to the old archive and mailing list subscription pages https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list// https://lists.iem.at/listinfo/pd-list of which the second in no longer functional. https://lists.iem.at/hyperkitty/list/pd-list@lists.iem.at/ could be used instead here. Thanks! Peter

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break a variable length list at a specific element
by Peter P. 02 Oct '24

02 Oct '24

Hi list, I am having lists with a variable number of items and I want to break them up two lists dependent on the presence of a specific item. I can't seem to understand how to do it though. Here's a quick example of what I mean: 1 2 3 4 5 6 look for the number 4 and output two lists (at separate outlets) which are before and after that number 4, giving: 1 2 3 and 5 6 respectively I'd need the solution to work for lists of other lengths as well, i.e. 55 66 77 88 4 102 -33 should be broken up into 55 66 77 88 and 102 -33 alike. I tried [route] and [list] objects but can't get them to do what I want. thanks! P

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Re: Lua in pd
by Dan Wilcox 02 Oct '24

02 Oct '24

Honestly, I would not suggest using LuaJIT by default. It doesn't have support for as many archs and systems as a pure C project like Lua, due to the assembly. I say that having a Lua-based project in openFrameworks for over 10 years: I keep the Lua version up to date with the latest stable release, but make it possible for people to use LuaJIT. It definitely helps with realtime graphics on embedded systems, RPi for example. > On Oct 2, 2024, at 6:13 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:13:32 +0200 > From: Christof Ressi <info(a)christofressi.com <mailto:info@christofressi.com>> > Subject: [PD] Re: Lua in pd > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > Message-ID: <b5a3d5d6-e548-43db-8863-8c3bd92812d1(a)christofressi.com <mailto:b5a3d5d6-e548-43db-8863-8c3bd92812d1@christofressi.com>> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="------------sin7OcxzKLJn12uvlllSAVsz" > > LuaJIT is awesome, but is it a good idea to run a JIT on the audio > thread? Compiling code is certainly not realtime safe and I think we > have no control over /when /individual functions are being compiled. So > while LuaJIT would give better performance, I assume it would have a > larger worst-case latency. One the other hand, LuaJIT also has a faster > bytecode interpreter (written in hand-optimized assembly). We could > allow people to select the JIT compiler or the bytecode interpreter as a > runtime option. > > Side note: LuaJIT also supports a subset of Lua 5.2. -------- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD-dev] Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: gtk front end for Pd?
by Timothy Schoen 02 Oct '24

02 Oct '24

Yeah, +1 for pdlua for me! Here's a few more reasons I'd love to see this: * pdlua objects require vastly less boiler-plate code than C externals. Especially for signals and graphics, it takes care of all the hard parts and common pitfalls for you. * As a result, creating pdlua objects is much more beginner friendly, and experienced programmers are less likely to make mistakes. Not requiring compilation makes writing coded externals as accessible as abstractions are currently. * The biggest weakness for a project like pdlua is needing to be installed manually. This discourages people from directly uploading their Lua objects on Deken. Like porres said, ELSE now ships with pdlua just so that we can ship lua objects. It would be amazing if we could assume them to just work. * As you might know, Lua is very compact, it can be compiled by adding "onelua.c" to your sources, and it has no external dependencies. For ease of maintenance, it's as good at it gets. Lua is also fast for a scripting language. Seems like the perfect fit for pure-data. If you want a sample of the API, here's the documentation for pdlua graphics: https://agraef.github.io/pd-lua/tutorial/pd-lua-intro.html#graphics Tim On 02/10/2024 06:12, Alexandre wrote: > > Let me share Tim's thoughts he sent me via a chat about coding > externals in lua, which I think are a perfect sell. Compared to C > externals, lua externals: > > * Encourages open-source, since the source code is the object > * Works on every OS, architecture, pd floatsize, multi-instance, all > without needing recompilation > * You can easily modify objects if you want to > * GUIs are now much easier to write with Lua than with C > * Are guaranteed to keep working even if Pd's C API changes, or Pd > changes GUI framework > * Are guaranteed to work across Pd forks, as long as they correctly > implement the lua API > > > > Em ter., 1 de out. de 2024 às 15:36, Alexandre <porres(a)gmail.com> > escreveu: > > Em seg., 30 de set. de 2024 às 16:59, Christof Ressi > <info(a)christofressi.com> escreveu: > >>>>> Thanks to Antoine for mentioning pdlua! I will need to >>>>> check it out. I have already seen people doing some very >>>>> cool stuff with it. Maybe they already have the perfect >>>>> solution :) >>>>> >>>> I'm also looking at pdlua, which might want to become the >>>> official way to make graphical externs AND to add scripting >>>> in a fundamental way to Pd :) >> >> +1 for an official scripting language! :) (I love Lua, BTW.) >> And yes, it would make lots of sense to leverage the >> scripting language to implement custom UIs! > > > +1k > > Yay, great to hear that! BTW, I remembered about this ticket we > opened years ago inquiring about adding lua to Pd natively! > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/687 > > Now that Tim is doing great work for graphics, this would be even > more awesome! And I wouldn't have to worry in shipping it in ELSE > for some externals that already use it :) > > cheers > > > --- > pd-dev(a)lists.iem.at - the Pd developers' mailinglist > https://lists.iem.at/hyperkitty/list/pd-dev@lists.iem.at/message/WOQJIW3FBB…

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[PD-announce] ANN: New stable releases of Pd-L2Ork, WebPdL2Ork, and L2Ork Tweeter
by Bukvic, Ivica 02 Oct '24

02 Oct '24

Dear all, Pleased to announce a new stable release of Pd-L2Ork that comes with a long list of updates, bug-fixes, improvements, new features, and optimizations, including integrating all objects introduced in vanilla between versions 0.48 and 0.54 (with the exception of the list box that will be added in the coming weeks; FWIW Pd-L2Ork already has the dropdown object that serves this purpose), and a major overhaul of the L2Ork Tweeter platform. WebPdL2Ork has been also updated and further optimized. Head to https://bit.ly/pd-l2ork to download latest release for all major platforms, including RPi's aarch64, and Linux flatpak. To explore WebPdL2Ork, visit the following blog post https://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/pd-l2ork-invades-the-web/ Best, Ico -- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Director, Creativity + Innovation Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology Virginia Tech Creative Technologies in Music School of Performing Arts – 0141 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 ico(a)vt.edu ci.icat.vt.edu l2ork.icat.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list -- pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at To unsubscribe send an email to pd-announce-leave(a)lists.iem.at

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Changing vanilla colors
by Andrew Lyons 01 Oct '24

01 Oct '24

Hi, I'm looking to modify vanilla src to hard code a dark color scheme. Just something quick and easy. Any pointers on where in the src I find default colors? Doesn't seem to be in the tcl directory... Thanks

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Subject: Re: break a variable length list at a specific element (Alexandros Drymonitis)
by claudio nervi 30 Sep '24

30 Sep '24

Hello Alexandros, I'll try to express myself better, what I meant to say is: if you use Vanilla PD, without downloading any library, this version will work for you. When I saw the patch you posted, I thought there was some change in the Pure Data 055.1 package and I missed it, so I tried your patch, but the [list-abs/list-find] object didn't appear. Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look at that abstraction library, it looks interesting! Claudio. ps.: ¿How can I send a Patch in .pd format to the pd-list? El lun, 30 sept 2024 a las 21:00, <pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at> escribió: > Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to > pd-list(a)lists.iem.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pd-list-owner(a)lists.iem.at > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: break a variable length list at a specific element (Alexandros > Drymonitis) > (claudio nervi) > 2. Re: break a variable length list at a specific element (Alexandros > Drymonitis) > (Alexandros Drymonitis) > 3. Re: [PD-announce] nusmuk libs (cyrille henry) > 4. Re: [PD-announce] nusmuk libs (Johnny Mauser) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 15:38:35 +0200 > From: claudio nervi <claudionervi(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [PD] Re: break a variable length list at a specific element > (Alexandros Drymonitis) > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at > Message-ID: > <CACzFJ2STpfQQqHCYr4u_ekw= > a62Czo0EWJ1NJssEbd1tu4Ycbg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="000000000000f7bab806235652b5" > > If you are in Vanille, the solution in "Vanilla Stile": > > #N canvas 766 214 458 396 12; > #N canvas 224 224 330 295 list 0; > #X obj 96 138 list; > #N canvas 192 192 436 397 list 0; > #X msg 193 264 set; > #X msg 266 278 adddollar \$1; > #X obj 132 41 inlet list; > #X obj 93 352 outlet list reverse; > #X obj 170 106 list length; > #X obj 266 194 f; > #X obj 266 224 - 1; > #X obj 284 157 + 1; > #X obj 152 149 f; > #X obj 152 175 until; > #X obj 132 78 t l b l b; > #X msg 93 312 \$10 \$9 \$8 \$7 \$6 \$5 \$4 \$3 \$2 \$1; > #X connect 0 0 11 0; > #X connect 1 0 11 0; > #X connect 2 0 10 0; > #X connect 4 0 7 0; > #X connect 4 0 8 1; > #X connect 5 0 6 0; > #X connect 6 0 5 1; > #X connect 6 0 1 0; > #X connect 7 0 5 1; > #X connect 8 0 9 0; > #X connect 9 0 5 0; > #X connect 10 0 11 0; > #X connect 10 1 8 0; > #X connect 10 2 4 0; > #X connect 10 3 0 0; > #X connect 11 0 3 0; > #X restore 96 105 pd list reverse; > #X obj 96 175 list split 1; > #X obj 96 63 inlet; > #X obj 96 223 outlet; > #X connect 0 0 2 0; > #X connect 1 0 0 0; > #X connect 2 0 4 0; > #X connect 2 1 0 0; > #X connect 3 0 1 0; > #X restore 86 148 pd list separe; > #N canvas 32 32 450 300 select 0; > #X obj 82 80 t f b; > #X obj 162 129 f; > #X obj 162 162 + 1; > #X msg 293 110 0; > #X obj 82 206 f; > #X obj 82 249 outlet; > #X obj 293 38 inlet reset; > #X text 327 112 reset counter; > #X obj 194 38 inlet index; > #X obj 82 38 inlet element; > #X obj 82 163 select; > #X connect 0 0 10 0; > #X connect 0 1 1 0; > #X connect 1 0 2 0; > #X connect 2 0 1 1; > #X connect 2 0 4 1; > #X connect 3 0 1 1; > #X connect 4 0 5 0; > #X connect 6 0 3 0; > #X connect 8 0 10 1; > #X connect 9 0 0 0; > #X connect 10 0 4 0; > #X restore 86 216 pd select index; > #X floatatom 137 184 5 0 0 1 select\ item - - 0; > #X floatatom 86 245 5 0 0 0 - - - 0; > #X msg 63 61 1 3 5 7 9 1000 2 4 8 6; > #X obj 63 107 t l l b; > #N canvas 128 128 393 350 remove 0; > #X obj 66 198 list split; > #X obj 234 89 - 1; > #X obj 99 228 list split 1; > #X obj 66 160 list; > #X msg 66 133 bang; > #X obj 233 114 t b f; > #X obj 234 55 inlet index; > #X obj 151 56 inlet list; > #X obj 139 268 print x2; > #X obj 66 268 print x1; > #X connect 0 0 9 0; > #X connect 0 1 2 0; > #X connect 1 0 5 0; > #X connect 2 1 8 0; > #X connect 3 0 0 0; > #X connect 4 0 3 0; > #X connect 5 0 4 0; > #X connect 5 1 0 1; > #X connect 6 0 1 0; > #X connect 7 0 3 1; > #X restore 63 292 pd remove and split; > #X connect 0 0 1 0; > #X connect 1 0 3 0; > #X connect 2 0 1 1; > #X connect 3 0 6 1; > #X connect 4 0 5 0; > #X connect 5 0 6 0; > #X connect 5 1 0 0; > #X connect 5 2 1 2; > > Claudio. > > ps.: > ¿How can I send a Patch in .pd format to the list? >

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[PD-announce] nusmuk libs
by cyrille henry 30 Sep '24

30 Sep '24

hello Nusmuk-audio and nusmuk-utils are now available on deken, for most architecture. They regroup my personal stuff, and are useful to run chdh release like egregore. cheers Cyrille _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list -- pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at To unsubscribe send an email to pd-announce-leave(a)lists.iem.at

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Re: break a variable length list at a specific element (Alexandros Drymonitis)
by claudio nervi 30 Sep '24

30 Sep '24

If you are in Vanille, the solution in "Vanilla Stile": #N canvas 766 214 458 396 12; #N canvas 224 224 330 295 list 0; #X obj 96 138 list; #N canvas 192 192 436 397 list 0; #X msg 193 264 set; #X msg 266 278 adddollar \$1; #X obj 132 41 inlet list; #X obj 93 352 outlet list reverse; #X obj 170 106 list length; #X obj 266 194 f; #X obj 266 224 - 1; #X obj 284 157 + 1; #X obj 152 149 f; #X obj 152 175 until; #X obj 132 78 t l b l b; #X msg 93 312 \$10 \$9 \$8 \$7 \$6 \$5 \$4 \$3 \$2 \$1; #X connect 0 0 11 0; #X connect 1 0 11 0; #X connect 2 0 10 0; #X connect 4 0 7 0; #X connect 4 0 8 1; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 5 1; #X connect 6 0 1 0; #X connect 7 0 5 1; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 9 0 5 0; #X connect 10 0 11 0; #X connect 10 1 8 0; #X connect 10 2 4 0; #X connect 10 3 0 0; #X connect 11 0 3 0; #X restore 96 105 pd list reverse; #X obj 96 175 list split 1; #X obj 96 63 inlet; #X obj 96 223 outlet; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 2 0 4 0; #X connect 2 1 0 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X restore 86 148 pd list separe; #N canvas 32 32 450 300 select 0; #X obj 82 80 t f b; #X obj 162 129 f; #X obj 162 162 + 1; #X msg 293 110 0; #X obj 82 206 f; #X obj 82 249 outlet; #X obj 293 38 inlet reset; #X text 327 112 reset counter; #X obj 194 38 inlet index; #X obj 82 38 inlet element; #X obj 82 163 select; #X connect 0 0 10 0; #X connect 0 1 1 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 1 1; #X connect 2 0 4 1; #X connect 3 0 1 1; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 6 0 3 0; #X connect 8 0 10 1; #X connect 9 0 0 0; #X connect 10 0 4 0; #X restore 86 216 pd select index; #X floatatom 137 184 5 0 0 1 select\ item - - 0; #X floatatom 86 245 5 0 0 0 - - - 0; #X msg 63 61 1 3 5 7 9 1000 2 4 8 6; #X obj 63 107 t l l b; #N canvas 128 128 393 350 remove 0; #X obj 66 198 list split; #X obj 234 89 - 1; #X obj 99 228 list split 1; #X obj 66 160 list; #X msg 66 133 bang; #X obj 233 114 t b f; #X obj 234 55 inlet index; #X obj 151 56 inlet list; #X obj 139 268 print x2; #X obj 66 268 print x1; #X connect 0 0 9 0; #X connect 0 1 2 0; #X connect 1 0 5 0; #X connect 2 1 8 0; #X connect 3 0 0 0; #X connect 4 0 3 0; #X connect 5 0 4 0; #X connect 5 1 0 1; #X connect 6 0 1 0; #X connect 7 0 3 1; #X restore 63 292 pd remove and split; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 1 1; #X connect 3 0 6 1; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 5 1 0 0; #X connect 5 2 1 2; Claudio. ps.: ¿How can I send a Patch in .pd format to the list?

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