Pd-list September 2022

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Preset management for Pd Vanilla
by Alexandre Torres Porres 13 Nov '23

13 Nov '23

Never really needed fancy preset management other than storing messages in a basic vanilla way. But I've seen people mention how Pd lacks a nice preset system. Not that I know what a fancy one actually needs since I never felt the demand. So I'm here to ask what people use in Pd Vanilla, be it a pure vanilla solution or an external. And also to ask what people miss. This is what I came up with as a pure vanilla abstraction, it's based on [text] and [savestate]. Here's the thing: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A0ISEJo5F1E578WHM1doo1n2CJAthonU/view?usp=… In short, the preset abstraction takes messages and stores them. You can have many of these on your patch and use them to recall presets for any parameters. It takes any kind of messages. I'm making use of built-in sends and receives in the number boxes to make the patch cleaner. Just think that you can have separate control of each parameter having its own preset or group all of them together globally, or a group here and another there, whatever... Once you save the patch, the presets you saved get stored in the patch. As for my current idea for my ELSE library, I'm using an object similar to grab to take messages from [receive] objects. It's a development over this original vanilla abstraction. My first draft is this, I hope that sharing the screenshot give you a nice idea. [image: Screen Shot 2021-01-21 at 04.47.42.png] You can check what's up in my repository for more details... https://github.com/porres/pd-else/blob/master/Classes/Abstractions/preset.pd cheers

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soundtouch~ for Pd Vanilla
by Alexandre Torres Porres 31 Oct '23

31 Oct '23

Hi folks, I'm on a vibe of uploading missing libraries and objects for Pd Vanilla on deken. On the list I have FFTease, Lyonpotpourri, CICM-Tools and more stuff that I'm looking into, just so you know... Now, I see there's an old soundtouch~ external here: http://www.katjaas.nl/pitchshift/soundtouch~.html - it's "version 0.9" by Katja Vetter. It was developed with SoundTouch version 1.6 and Pure Data version 0.42. I tested on Pd 0.51-4 32 bits on mac and it works fine. There are binaries for download on the link above, but not for 64 bits. I wonder if anyone wants to help me build these with pd-lib-builder and all. Now, the ceammc librarym (and Pd-ceammc distribution) has a soundtouch~ external too. It's the same name, but not the same external, this one is marked as "version 0.1". So we do already have "a" soundtouch~ for vanilla, but I wanted to also get katja's external up there. So I just uploaded the download from that page here https://github.com/porres/pd-soundtouch - It's just the download as it is and we need to change to hopefully use pd-lib-builder, which would make things easier. I did try that and it didn't work. So, anyone onboard with this? cheers

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MIDI specifications for Multidimensional Polyphonic Expression (MPE) in Pd
by Alexandre Torres Porres 26 Oct '23

26 Oct '23

some new objects for MPE Midi is on Max's new update, just googled it to see what it was http://expressiveness.org/2015/04/24/midi-specifications-for-multidimension… wonder if you guys know anything about this and if anyone would be into bringing this to Pd. cheers

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looking for a simple eq
by Jakob Laue 11 Oct '22

11 Oct '22

Dear list, I am looking for a simple equalizer abstraction, preferably vanilla, but can be part of an external library, too! Actually I just need simple low-cutting from low to high frequencies and/or high-cutting from high to low. A visual representation would be great. Do you know where I can find one? Thank you, Jakob

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Re: [PD] MIDI / STATUS_BYTE / noteOn - noteOff mesage
by Dan Wilcox 02 Oct '22

02 Oct '22

Pd treats noteoff as a noteon with 0 velocity, hence the [stripnote] object, etc. If you want to explicitly handle noteoff, you can look at the midi tester patch for working with raw bytes... 1. Help -> Browser... 2. Pure Data / 7.stuff / tools / miditester.pd 3. receive [pd channel messages] > On Sep 27, 2022, at 9:56 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 17:42:15 +0200 > From: Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsutton(a)gmail.com <mailto:lorenzofsutton@gmail.com>> > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] MIDI / STATUS_BYTE / noteOn - noteOff mesage > Message-ID: <b3832427-9b6d-ea0e-3d34-82245176e5ba(a)gmail.com <mailto:b3832427-9b6d-ea0e-3d34-82245176e5ba@gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Hi, > > On 26/09/2022 20:43, Maurin Donneaud wrote: >> Dear List >> >> Looking at the MIDI 1.0 documentation : >> https://www.midi.org/specifications-old/item/table-2-expanded-messages-list… <https://www.midi.org/specifications-old/item/table-2-expanded-messages-list…> >> >> I notice that the MIDI NOTES are transmitted over three bytes >> ??? byte 1 -> STATUS_BYTE [chan & function] >> ??? byte 2 -> DATA_BYTE [note] (0-127) >> ??? byte 3 -> DATA_BYTE [velocity] (0-127) >> >> I'm wandering if Pd have a simple object to extract the noteOn / noteOff >> message from the STATUS_BYTE. > > I think you should be able with [midiin]. > > Note that as per MIDI spec, 'note off' can be either an explicit 'note > off' message also containing a 'release velocity' value or (more common) > a note on with velocity equal to zero (for example this is how Pd does a > note on/off if you use the [makenote] object. > > Lorenzo -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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selecting audio device by device name using startup flag
by Jakob Laue 29 Sep '22

29 Sep '22

Dear list, i would like to use the command line to start a patch on a raspberry pi. Is it possible to select my audio-out-device by name using startup flags? The name that Pd gives my audio device is: 'Scarlett Solo USB (hardware)' The '-audiooutdev' flag is used indicating the number of the device-list, but I am afraid that the lists' order could sometimes change, hence the startup flag would choose the wrong interface. Thanks, Jakob

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1. Re: looking for a simple eq (Jakob Laue)
by claudio nervi 29 Sep '22

29 Sep '22

If you are looking for a really very simple EQ Vanilla, that's my version. It has two stereo stages: [pd n_equalizador] ; you can add more stages to increase the effect. 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Pd vanilla 0.52-2 Linux - white text on black background in menus and settings?
by Lorenzo Sutton 28 Sep '22

28 Sep '22

Hi list, I'm not sure how but when I now run Pd I have menus, borders and setting windows inverted with white text on black background. Patches are still black on white as normal. However as a side effect I also have 'edit' windows like the Pd About one or windows for editing text objects (e.g. [text define foo] as white text on white background. Here is a screenshot: https://i2.paste.pics/242b27a707328abfd99328a2d0fadbe8.png I can't remember consciously doing anything to get this behaviour so I'm wondering if it's something new in Pd, a Tcl/Tk glitch or something I touched by mistake... and most importantly, how to revert to the default look. This is Pd 0.52-2 on Linux Manjaro installed via pacman from the community repository. Any hint welcome! Thanks, Lorenzo

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MIDI / STATUS_BYTE / noteOn - noteOff mesage
by Maurin Donneaud 27 Sep '22

27 Sep '22

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Gem renders only in left bottom quarter
by Csaba Láng 26 Sep '22

26 Sep '22

Dear list, for some time already my Gem window cannot render in the full Gem window but only in the left bottom corner [image: Screenshot 2022-06-23 at 13.34.04.png] My default gem window is gemglfw3window as it was suggested earlier by Iohannes. I am on MacOS 12.3. Best, Popesz

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