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Pd FLOSS Manual Update pt 1
by Derek Holzer 13 Apr '09

13 Apr '09

Dear list, the book sprint for the Pd FLOSS Manual last weekend went very well! Several writers and proofreaders joined us at each location in New York City and Berlin, as well as remote contributors online (see contributors below). The good news is that quite a lot of content was generated over the weekend, including the beginnings of entirely new sections on GEM, MIDI, Network Data and Sensors. You can see the work-in-progress FLOSS Manual via the editing interface here: http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/WebHome The not-so-good news is that most of these new sections are in limbo! Next month, Adam and I hope to publish version 1.0 of the Pure Data FLOSS Manual to the front page of the FLOSS Manuals site for public viewing: http://en.flossmanuals.net/ The chapters that will be included in Version 1.0 will be: INTRODUCTION INSTALLING GETTING STARTED THE INTERFACE AUDIO TUTORIALS DATAFLOW TUTORIALS STREAMING LIST OF OBJECTS APPENDICES But in order to do this, some of the chapters in each section need some improvement. Here's what needs to happen immediately. Please take a look and see if you can help! ____ALL CHAPTERS____ --Proofreading for spelling, simplicity, new-user-friendliness and consistent tone (see INSTALLING, GETTING STARTED, THE INTERFACE and AUDIO TUTORIALS chapters for style and format examples). ____AUDIO TUTORIALS___ -> This section is almost done. What remains is to make a proper tutorial out of it... i.e. that the examples in the chapter follow a "story" which leads up the construction of a simple synthesizer. Due to changes in structure of the chapters inside, this needs updating, but I will work on it. -> In general, structure, tone and content of these chapters should serve as guide for the rest of the manual. -> I would like to see all sections follow this tutorial model, of building up a project from the various elements introduced in each chapter. -> keep in mind that other sections (such as MIDI, NETWORK DATA, SENSORS, etc) can build on examples started in this chapter, so that the whole manual is interconnected and has a proper "storyline". * http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/Tables --where does this go? Dataflow or Audio? (Audio I think) --Would be good to integrate with http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/ArraysGraphsTables --I'd like to crop screenshots to get rid of menu bar --Incomplete, needs expansion and also "loop it" and "play sections" parts --Could this also be structured like tutorial rather than taxonomy? ____DATAFLOW____ * http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/Messages --Looks very good! * http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/Math --"I guess it isn't necessary to explain how [+], [-], [*] and [/] work. " Check for tone. --Bit twiddling: empty --Expr: empty --Audio math: empty * http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/Lists --Needs more than taxonomy, i.e. real world examples!!!!! * http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/OrderOfOperations --Needs a little attention, but I'm not sure, maybe simpler examples, clearer screenshots, explain object abbreviations in-line if used * http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/WirelessConnections --Examples too busy, need to be simpler!!!!!! --Text doesn't really connect to examples * Subpatches, Abstractions & Dollarsigns --These should all be in one chapter, explaining how to make reusable patches with nice interfaces, rather than atomized into different chapters(title = Patch Management?) * http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/Subpatches --Needs final real world example, maybe in connection with abstractions + GoP * http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/Abstractions --Tie in with Patch Management (to be created) --Better examples! * http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/DollarSigns --Get rid of this chapter, confusing collision with dollar signs in messages --Better examples, explained in-line in text --Tie in with Patch Management (to be created) --All examples are not saved anywhere!!!!! * http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/GraphOnParent --Move to Patch Management (to be created) --Not completely explained (colored background canvas) --No colors in Pd patch screenshots please! * http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/ArraysGraphsTables --Check text for clarity, accuracy, simplicity --Redo screenshots with antialiased text please! ___LIST OF OBJECTS____ -> Table format doesn't work in some browsers (Adam Hyde will look into this) ____GLOSSARY____ -> HTML tables don't work well here, Adam Hyde will reformat text with <h1>, <h2> and <h3 tags> ...and finally, THE CONTRIBUTORS! Here are the folks that helped us rock last weekend, in no particular order: AdamHyde DerekHolzer HansChristophSteiner ScottFitzgerald VincentRioux PatrickDavison JoaoPais ServandoBarreiro KorayTahiroglu MariusSchebella JeremySchaller MaxNeupert EvanRaskob GeorgWerner AlexandrePorres JayMaechtlen RomanHaefeli DanielShiffman LauraGarciaBarrio AlejoDuque (My apologies if I accidentally left someone out!) Thanks all, I'm looking forward to seeing this 1.0 version looking its best! Derek -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 123: "Once the search has begun, something will be found"

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Re: [PD] simple rgb color organ
by Julian Villegas 13 Apr '09

13 Apr '09

Hi, we did something similar for illustrating microtuned scales with JOGL and a SK-88Pro. The paper describing it is at: http://www.ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel5/4385040/4385041/0… and the prototype at: http://julovi.net/j/?page_id=355 best wishes, Julian Villegas Me pregunto de un modo pensativo Que significa ser Colombiano? No se le respondi. Es un acto de fe JLB. ________________________________ From: "pd-list-request(a)iem.at" <pd-list-request(a)iem.at> To: pd-list(a)iem.at Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 8:48:46 AM Subject: Pd-list Digest, Vol 49, Issue 69 Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to pd-list(a)iem.at To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pd-list-request(a)iem.at You can reach the person managing the list at pd-list-owner(a)iem.at When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: pyext on pd-extended 0.40.3-extended (patrick) 2. simple rgb color organ (Derek Holzer) 3. Re: simple rgb color organ (Claude Heiland-Allen) 4. Re: simple rgb color organ (Derek Holzer) 5. Re: simple rgb color organ (Derek Holzer) 6. Re: [templater] = Templates for Pd (Luke Iannini) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 11:25:42 -0400 From: patrick <puredata(a)11h11.com> Subject: Re: [PD] pyext on pd-extended 0.40.3-extended To: Martin Dupras <martindupras(a)gmail.com> Cc: PD List <pd-list(a)iem.at> Message-ID: <49E207F6.3070005(a)11h11.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed are you using this version: http://grrrr.org/ext/beta/macos/pd/ the difference between py and pyext:/ py/ loads Python modules and execute the functions therein;/ pyext/ uses Python classes to represent full-featured message objects. sorry i'm not using mac os x, so i cannot test. pat ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:09:40 +0200 From: Derek Holzer <derek(a)umatic.nl> Subject: [PD] simple rgb color organ To: PD List <pd-list(a)iem.at> Message-ID: <49E24A84.6060805(a)umatic.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hey gang, before I go reinventing somebody else's wheel... has anybody written something that takes a (sound) frequency in Hz or MIDI note and outputs the transposed color in RGB values? Along these lines: F#44 = 737 nm(Infrared) G 44 = 696 nm(Red) G#44 = 657 nm(Red) A 44 = 620 nm(Red-Orange) A#44 = 585 nm(Yellow) B 44 = 552 nm(Green) C 45 = 521 nm(Green) C#45 = 492 nm(Green-Blue) D 45 = 464 nm(Blue) D#45 = 438 nm(Violet) E 45 = 414 nm(Violet) F 45 = 390 nm(Ultraviolet) Or even something that takes the light wavelength in nanometers and gives separate RGB values? I'm working on a simple color organ for a friend this week. Danke + best! D. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 174: "Water" ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:28:53 +0100 From: Claude Heiland-Allen <claudiusmaximus(a)goto10.org> Subject: Re: [PD] simple rgb color organ To: Derek Holzer <derek(a)umatic.nl> Cc: PD List <pd-list(a)iem.at> Message-ID: <49E24F05.7050609(a)goto10.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Derek Holzer wrote: > Hey gang, > > before I go reinventing somebody else's wheel... has anybody written > something that takes a (sound) frequency in Hz or MIDI note and outputs > the transposed color in RGB values? Along these lines: > > F#44 = 737 nm(Infrared) > G 44 = 696 nm(Red) > G#44 = 657 nm(Red) > A 44 = 620 nm(Red-Orange) > A#44 = 585 nm(Yellow) > B 44 = 552 nm(Green) > C 45 = 521 nm(Green) > C#45 = 492 nm(Green-Blue) > D 45 = 464 nm(Blue) > D#45 = 438 nm(Violet) > E 45 = 414 nm(Violet) > F 45 = 390 nm(Ultraviolet) > > Or even something that takes the light wavelength in nanometers and > gives separate RGB values? I'm working on a simple color organ for a > friend this week. http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/specrend/ Have fun.. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:39:22 +0200 From: Derek Holzer <derek(a)umatic.nl> Subject: Re: [PD] simple rgb color organ To: Claude Heiland-Allen <claudiusmaximus(a)goto10.org> Cc: PD List <pd-list(a)iem.at> Message-ID: <49E2517A.5090700(a)umatic.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I also found this: http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/msg17390.html Which seems much more useful for the task at hand. But not being much pf a C programmer, it could take me some time converting it into a Pd patch. I'll report back... D. Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: > Derek Holzer wrote: >> Hey gang, >> >> before I go reinventing somebody else's wheel... has anybody written >> something that takes a (sound) frequency in Hz or MIDI note and >> outputs the transposed color in RGB values? Along these lines: >> >> F#44 = 737 nm(Infrared) >> G 44 = 696 nm(Red) >> G#44 = 657 nm(Red) >> A 44 = 620 nm(Red-Orange) >> A#44 = 585 nm(Yellow) >> B 44 = 552 nm(Green) >> C 45 = 521 nm(Green) >> C#45 = 492 nm(Green-Blue) >> D 45 = 464 nm(Blue) >> D#45 = 438 nm(Violet) >> E 45 = 414 nm(Violet) >> F 45 = 390 nm(Ultraviolet) >> >> Or even something that takes the light wavelength in nanometers and >> gives separate RGB values? I'm working on a simple color organ for a >> friend this week. > > http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/specrend/ > > Have fun.. > -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 29: "Change nothing and continue with immaculate consistency" ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 00:12:34 +0200 From: Derek Holzer <derek(a)umatic.nl> Subject: Re: [PD] simple rgb color organ Cc: PD List <pd-list(a)iem.at> Message-ID: <49E26752.1060703(a)umatic.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Done! Results are attached, with GEM example help patch. Could also be useful for controlling PWM dimmer for RGB lights or LEDs. best! D. Derek Holzer wrote: > I also found this: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/msg17390.html > > Which seems much more useful for the task at hand. But not being much pf > a C programmer, it could take me some time converting it into a Pd > patch. I'll report back... > > D. > > Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: >> Derek Holzer wrote: >>> Hey gang, >>> >>> before I go reinventing somebody else's wheel... has anybody written >>> something that takes a (sound) frequency in Hz or MIDI note and >>> outputs the transposed color in RGB values? Along these lines: >>> >>> F#44 = 737 nm(Infrared) >>> G 44 = 696 nm(Red) >>> G#44 = 657 nm(Red) >>> A 44 = 620 nm(Red-Orange) >>> A#44 = 585 nm(Yellow) >>> B 44 = 552 nm(Green) >>> C 45 = 521 nm(Green) >>> C#45 = 492 nm(Green-Blue) >>> D 45 = 464 nm(Blue) >>> D#45 = 438 nm(Violet) >>> E 45 = 414 nm(Violet) >>> F 45 = 390 nm(Ultraviolet) >>> >>> Or even something that takes the light wavelength in nanometers and >>> gives separate RGB values? I'm working on a simple color organ for a >>> friend this week. >> >> http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/specrend/ >> >> Have fun.. >> > -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 131: "Question the heroic approach"

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More info on scramble~ ?
by J. Simon van der Walt 12 Apr '09

12 Apr '09

If the archives do not lie, last time somebody asked this seven years ago there was no reply, but... is there any more information anywhere about scramble~? I've got it working, but it's not entirely obvious what it's doing... anyone have any more info? Thanks, JS

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Re: [PD] Ded simple bass drum synth?
by J. Simon van der Walt 12 Apr '09

12 Apr '09

Thanks for the bass drum patches... JS

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Re: [PD] how to capture movement
by Jose Luis Santorcuato 12 Apr '09

12 Apr '09

Hi everybody, i download the objects .ccp .h for the objetc pix_motion_sector but i cant run with this object in GEM. how to compile?.I use a blckbook intel core 2 duo an PD 0.40.3. I agrre the folder with the objets for others users. Thanks José 2009/4/8 Jose Luis Santorcuato <santorcuato76(a)gmail.com> > Oh yes i can view the pic... really thanks... really... > > José > > 2009/4/8 Jaime Oliver <jaime.oliver2(a)gmail.com> > >> checkout william brents pix_scan_sector or something like that... >> >> >> http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html >> >> J >> >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato >> <santorcuato76(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Dear friends, i have a question,¿ how i can capture movement or apply a >> > matrix for segments detect?... i test the gem help with the x_blob but >> is >> > not enough, very inestable... >> > Cheers from Chile >> > >> > José Luis >> > >> > -- >> > http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com/ >> > www.myspace.com/santorcuato >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Jaime E Oliver LR >> >> joliverl(a)ucsd.edu >> www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver >> www-crca.ucsd.edu/<http://www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver%0Awww-crca.ucsd.edu/> >> www.realidadvisual.org >> >> 858 202 1522 >> 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G >> La Jolla, CA 92037 >> USA >> > > > > -- > http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com/ > www.myspace.com/santorcuato > -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com/ www.myspace.com/santorcuato

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pd and recent jackd
by joel silvestre 11 Apr '09

11 Apr '09

Hi all, I'm afraid there's something wrong with Pd and new jackd releases (0.116.x). Pd gives some ; watchdog: signaling pd... and audio dropouts. The watchdog errors appears only on a gui-less pd, I can't say if it's the same for dropouts as the gui is likely to produce some audio clicks. Everything performs well with old jackd ver 109.2. I tried different revision of pd-extended from 0.39.2 to 0.41.4, watchdog and dropouts are here.. All the best Joël

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Re: [PD] Creation Argument Weirdness
by Matt Barber 11 Apr '09

11 Apr '09

> > Hi, > I think I may have found a bug. After changing the abstraction > argument, nothing comes out of the outlet to the parent patch. I'm on > windows; can someone confirm before I post it on the bug tracker? Same over here. As a very limited hack, you can throw a [pipe 0] in, but dataflow ordering gets screwed up. See attached. M

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new arduino mega
by Jose Luis Santorcuato 11 Apr '09

11 Apr '09

HI everybody... the new arduino mega is here, but i think the ide program and the pduino object must update...Hans.... is possible???? or is possible change parameteres in firmata and pduino??? well... just a questions... Have a nice day friends Check the blog... the firts video in in Spanish and the secon English Thanks a lot Cheers from Chile José Luis -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com/ www.myspace.com/santorcuato

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peakamp~ abstraction?
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 11 Apr '09

11 Apr '09

cyclone's peakamp~ is a nice, easy to use object for getting the peak amplitude, and gives the numbers in an easier to use format than pvu~. Anyone ever tried to implement this kind of thing in Pd? .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity." -John Gilmore

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nightly Windows builds are back
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 10 Apr '09

10 Apr '09

Finally, I got a replacement Windows server up again, and its producing nightly builds! This time I have a backup... plus its real server hardware with lots of fans and a backup disk, never mind that its from 2001 :D. It's an upgrade from the old 700Mhz box to a 733!! w00t! http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsXPI386 You can download the builds from the usual place: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ And if you need access to build externals on the MinGW setup, send an request email to pd-dev(a)iem.at with your ssh key. http://puredata.info/docs/developer/PdLab .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of Environmentalism", by Curtis White

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