Pd-list April 2009

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morphing
by Johannes 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

hello list, i like to morph two samples about a duration of one minute. what is the the most accurate, i mean smoothest, way to do that in pd? has anybody experience with that? thanks, johannes

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start-up messages weirdnesses
by Matteo Sisti Sette 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

Hi, I've been using for a long time an old version of GEM, because for a series of compatibility and stability issues it was the only one that worked for me when I investigated, which was a couple of years ago (2007). At that time, the latest official release dated back to 2004 and the version I chose and still use is dated august 2006. I should now try the latest version, however I'm getting some messages I can't understand, and above all I can't understand why I get these messages with the same version of PD and GEM on one machine and not on others when the only difference is Windows version (and possibly some third party software/codecs/drivers) but not PD or GEM versions. Here's the all the init messages I get in Windows Vista: =========== INIT MESSAGES IN WINDOWS VISTA; PD 0.42-4 ===== warning: old method 'width' for class 'curve' renamed 'width_aliased' warning: old method 'draw' for class 'curve' renamed 'draw_aliased' warning: old method 'draw' for class 'curve3d' renamed 'draw_aliased' warning: old method 'width' for class 'polygon' renamed 'width_aliased' warning: old method 'draw' for class 'polygon' renamed 'draw_aliased' warning: old method 'draw' for class 'primTri' renamed 'draw_aliased' warning: old method 'width' for class 'scopeXYZ' renamed 'width_aliased' warning: old method 'draw' for class 'scopeXYZ' renamed 'draw_aliased' warning: old method 'open' for class 'fragment_program' renamed 'open_aliased' warning: old method 'print' for class 'fragment_program' renamed 'print_aliased' warning: class 'pix_film' overwritten\; old one renamed 'pix_film_aliased' warning: class 'pix_filmQT' overwritten\; old one renamed 'pix_filmQT_aliased' warning: old method 'open' for class 'pix_movieNEW' renamed 'open_aliased' warning: old method 'img_num' for class 'pix_movieNEW' renamed 'img_num_aliased' warning: old method 'auto' for class 'pix_movieNEW' renamed 'auto_aliased' warning: class 'pix_videoDS' overwritten\; old one renamed 'pix_videoDS_aliased' GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.90 GEM: compiled: Apr 12 2006 GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version on irix/windows) GEM: Chris Clepper (macOS-X) GEM: Daniel Heckenberg (windows) GEM: James Tittle (macOS-X) GEM: IOhannes m zmoelnig (linux/windows) Gem Man: QT init OK pix_film:: avi support ========================================================= On the other hand, on older machines with windows XP, with the same version of gem and also of PD I don't get any of the warning messages. I have only a remote dubt (and cannot check) that I may be wrong about the PD version that does not give the warning messages: it could be 0.42-3; however I'm almost sure it is 0.42-4, the same that does give the warning - however both are definitely 0.42-x and both gem versions are the very same Gem.dll file. Anybody can explain where's the difference? Also, what's the exact meaning and history of these messages? I'm sure this has already been discussed in the list but I can't find it in the archives (a typical case of difficult formulation of significant keyword combination), so if anybody can point me to an old thread where this was explained, that would be a great help. Thank you in advance Matteo Sisti Sette

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Re: [PD] (Ask) Master Degree in New Media Arts
by Koray Tahiroglu 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

http://mlab.taik.fi/ especially there is a new MA program already started this academic year, Sound in New Media, which might covers pretty much all your interests. Koray On Apr 7, 2009, at 7:19 PM, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:19:31 +0700 > From: Adityo Pratomo <quietdidit(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [PD] (Ask) Master Degree in New Media Arts > To: PD List <Pd-list(a)iem.at> > Message-ID: > <27d16aa70904070519q64ddeae6h968fcdc259ff1329(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi there everyone. > > I want to ask, can anybody give me information about universities > that give > a master degree in new media arts, probably those that similar with > MIT > Media Lab. I've just graduated with a bachelor degree in electrical > engineering, and in my final assignment, I create some kind of > installation > using Arduino and Pd. After that, I feel very eager to continue > studying > about this new media art field. So can anybody tell me where should > i go? > Any information will be appreciated. > > Thank you very much everybody! > > Cheers > > -- > mataharipertama.wordpress.com > kotakmakan.multiply.com ------------------------------------- M.Koray Tahiroglu Acoustics Lab / TKK http://mlab.taik.fi/~korayt/ http://www.acoustics.hut.fi/~ktahirog/ tel: +358 45 233 6272

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>, <, &&, || etc
by Derek Holzer 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

I have found that using these math functions doesn't always create on different systems using Pd-Extended. Therefore, it makes it difficult to write about them in the FLOSS Manual. How can I insure that they work on every Extended installation, or should I replace them with [expr] and [expr~] equivalents? D. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 139: "Revaluation (a warm feeling)"

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Multiblob and Animations...
by Simon Ball 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

Hi List I've been working with pix_multiblob to affect layers in 3D. I'm managing to get an erratic signal from it, which from my point of view, represents great success! ; ) However, there are few areas I am still confused about. First of all, I am unsure of how to extract muliple co-ordinates from [pix_multiblob]. I understand that the data from multiblob is collated within a matrix. I am able to see this in the pd window when I print. However, I am unsure how to use a matrix. Is there a certain object that I should be sending to from [pix_multiblob]? And in turn, how would I convert the matrix into xy co-ordinates. In the archives I found a response to similar a question saying there was a gem example with matrix and multiblob, but I can not seem to find it. Any idea what and where this is? Also... I am trying to use the various xy co-ordinates to trigger animations. However, I am unsure of how to animate with Pd. I noticed that [splinepath] does something similar to what I am looking for. This seems to be based on array's. However, looking at the help data for array's has not made it any clearer. Is there a way of inputting a list of co-ordinates that act as a path for an image to follow? Hope thats not too many questions. And is it easier for the list if I divide questions up (for archive purposes perhaps)? Thanks in advance Simon

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pd-extended build for linux x86_64?
by Jaime Oliver 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

Hello all, Is there a pd-extended build for linux x86_64? I need some of the objects it has and would rather get them compiled, because I am having a lot of trouble compiling them myself, except for freeverb~ which compiled right away. In any case if someone wouldn't mind sending along their x86_64, .pd_linux versions of the following objects I'd appreciate it. I need: vbap define_loudspeakers pool matrix~ thanks, Jaime -- Jaime E Oliver LR joliverl(a)ucsd.edu www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver www-crca.ucsd.edu/ www.realidadvisual.org 858 202 1522 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA

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Re: [PD] abunch release
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

yay, more libraries! If you add a simple patch called "abunch033- meta.pd" to the folder, then that folder will be a 'libdir' library. That means you can drop it into ~/Library/Pd and it will act like a full Pd library. So you can then do things like: [abunch033/clock] or [import abunch033] [clock] That then provides a way to handle name conflicts, since you have a number of common words: timeline, waves, clock, slice, etc. Here's the cross-platform install instructions, just drop the abunch033 folder with the abunch033-meta.pd file in the right folder and it will work (needs the latest nightly builds of Pd-extended): http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files-wit… .hc On Apr 1, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Hans Roels wrote: > Hello, > > Here is my release of Abunch, a collection of 50 abstractions for Pd > vanilla. I started developing these patches for the different > courses that I teach (for performers, for composers, for students, > for teenagers,...). It is conceived as an easy introduction to > computer music. After a while I started adding more advanced > features because I also started using it myself, not just for > teaching but for performing and composing. > > I guess most people on this list are Pd-users, so the explanation > about Abunch is rather simple: > -all controle data are normalized within the range of 0 - 127 > -give an unique number to every abunch abstraction as an argument. > So if you want to create two phasers: [phaser 1] and [phaser 2] > -you can save presets by creating the object 'presets' and giving it > one symbol as an argument, like [presets phaserpresets] > > Every abunch object has a help file. You need to have a Pd version > 0.40 or higher. > > The fastest way to get to know Abunch is to have a look at the > example files. There are about 30 of them, they are in the abunch > folder and start with 'ex' (like 'ex1a-play.pd'). > > You can download Abunch (and find more information) on this site: > http://home.versateladsl.be/hanstine/hans/abunch-eng.htm > > Voor de Nederlandstaligen: je kan ook een Nederlandstalige versie > downloaden (met help files en uitleg in het Nederlands): > http://home.versateladsl.be/hanstine/hans/abunch-ned.htm > > Abunch was realized with the support of the University College of > Ghent (Faculty of Music and Drama)(Belgium). > > Hans R > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. - Thomas Jefferson

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Re: [PD] call for testing: Pd-extended 0.41.4
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

Hmm, I don't know about that. Let's keep it on the list so that others can participate in the discussion. Is this perspec message in the latest Gem release, or just in SVN? This release of Pd-extended will included the last release of Gem. .hc On Apr 1, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Matthias Neuenhofer wrote: > Hallo Hans > > the gemframebuffer object miss the perpec message possibility to > change frustum of the buffer. > I send the code to gem-dev list and got positive feedback. Would be > nice to have it in nightly ex :) > Matthias > Am 01.04.2009 um 18:52 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: > >> >> Hey, >> >> I think Pd-extended 0.41.4 is basically ready to release. Before I >> make a release candidate, I'd love to have some feedback on the >> current nightly builds. You can find the latest successful builds >> for each platform here: >> >> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ >> >> .hc >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic

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Re: [PD] call for testing: Pd-extended 0.41.4
by Alexandre Porres 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

I get cyclone: can't load library zexy: can't load library creb: can't load library cxc: can't load library iemlib: can't load library list-abs: can't load library mapping: can't load library markex: can't load library maxlib: can't load library markex: can't load library maxlib: can't load library which is what I got in the last version, that is why I have been using 0.39.4 since I got it... I am really clueless why it is not workingm anybidy else? cheers

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Re: [PD] Ubuntu 8.1 HID object
by alvaro 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

Hi, quick fix: sudo chown root:audio /dev/input/* this changes the group ownership of everything under /dev/input to group audio, of which you are presumably a member. This makes your system slightly more vulnerable, but it will be reverted the next time you boot. Alvaro On Fr, 2009-04-03 at 20:27 +0200, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 05:04:27 -0700 (PDT) > From: tfric(a)learnkanji.ca > Subject: [PD] Ubuntu 8.1 HID object > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Message-ID: > <d29ee3585f7e90f4a8346d07a39118d3.squirrel(a)mail.learnkanji.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi, > > I have been unable to get the Ubuntu HID object working with my mouse or > my Wacom Graphire4 in Ubuntu 8.1. I am currently using Wintablet in > windows but to use it the top window has to be wintablet, not PD so PD > can't get keyboard events at the same time as wacom events. > > I don't get error messages but no events come out. I searched the mail > archives and followed the advice there. I am not getting any output when I > do sudo cat /dev/input/event0-10 or /dev/input/mouse0 or /dev/input/mice > or /dev/input/wacom. The Xorg.conf doesn't contain anything related to > Wacom, it is all handled by HAL in Ubuntu 8.1. Is that where the problem > is coming from? Has anyone sorted this out already? > > > >

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