Hi all,
After years of using Chikashi Miyama's [leapmotion] object, I decided to fork his repo in order to make some changes and build against the most recently available Leap SDK for macOS (2.3.1). Information about specific changes can be found by visiting the repo: https://github.com/wbrent/leapmotion. I've also uploaded deken packages for macOS/Intel and Linux.
Note that this external is for the original Leap Motion Controller, and not the current Ultraleap Controller. I may keep working on this in order to use the latest Leap SDK (5.7.2) for Ultraleap compatibility under Linux and Windows, but there seems to be no plan for supporting that device under macOS, hence the freeze at SDK 2.3.1 for now...
I hope it's helpful to someone out there! William
Hi William,
nice that you made this also for mac. I'm thinking that since each version of the object is in a different repository (I have the windows version, you have mac, and Chikashi has linux), would it make sense to cross-reference them? I guess putting them all together might be too much.
I haven't used my leap too much, mostly because after some performances I wanted to use more complex control such as gestures. But I couldn't program anything myself, and didn't find any way of using e.g. machine learning or similar for that. Is this some kind of work you also do? Could you recommend any such libraries, even if not for Pd?
Best, Joao
Hi all,
After years of using Chikashi Miyama's [leapmotion] object, I decided to fork his repo in order to make some changes and build against the most recently available Leap SDK for macOS (2.3.1). Information about specific changes can be found by visiting the repo: https://github.com/wbrent/leapmotion. I've also uploaded deken packages for macOS/Intel and Linux.
Note that this external is for the original Leap Motion Controller, and not the current Ultraleap Controller. I may keep working on this in order to use the latest Leap SDK (5.7.2) for Ultraleap compatibility under Linux and Windows, but there seems to be no plan for supporting that device under macOS, hence the freeze at SDK 2.3.1 for now...
I hope it's helpful to someone out there! William
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Hey Joao,
Chikashi also has a mac build of [leapmotion] available here http://puredatajapan.info/?page_id=1514, but it seems to be using SDK 1. So at least this version allows us to use 2.3.1. That's as far as we can go on macOS unless Leap changes their stance on mac development. But I'm messing around some with the latest 5.7.2 SDK and I'm not having any trouble building/linking on both Linux and Windows. And on those platforms I'm able to connect to both the original Leap Motion Controller and the new Ultraleap hardware.
I'm not sure about the best way to consolidate everything that's been done in this area, especially since I decided to remove the FLEXT layer, which will be important for Max/MSP users. Myself, I'm only interested in building this for Pd and I want to keep things as simple as possible. And if I follow through working with SDK 5.7.2, we'll have access to the latest version of Leap software/hardware on all 3 platforms. I'm totally open to working and organizing together on this...whatever seems to be the best way. I think I'll have time to get the code up to a good stopping point over the holidays.
As for the gestures - do you mean adding a system for training/recognizing user-defined gestures beyond the existing circle/swipe/tap gestures? I'm interested in that idea for sure, but don't have the deep learning chops to pull it off yet.
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 1:21 PM João Pais jmmmpais@gmail.com wrote:
Hi William, nice that you made this also for mac. I'm thinking that since each version of the object is in a different repository (I have the windows version, you have mac, and Chikashi has linux), would it make sense to cross-reference them? I guess putting them all together might be too much.
I haven't used my leap too much, mostly because after some performances I wanted to use more complex control such as gestures. But I couldn't program anything myself, and didn't find any way of using e.g. machine learning or similar for that. Is this some kind of work you also do? Could you recommend any such libraries, even if not for Pd?
Best, Joao
Hi all,
After years of using Chikashi Miyama's [leapmotion] object, I decided to fork his repo in order to make some changes and build against the most recently available Leap SDK for macOS (2.3.1). Information about specific changes can be found by visiting the repo: https://github.com/wbrent/leapmotion. I've also uploaded deken packages for macOS/Intel and Linux.
Note that this external is for the original Leap Motion Controller, and not the current Ultraleap Controller. I may keep working on this in order to use the latest Leap SDK (5.7.2) for Ultraleap compatibility under Linux and Windows, but there seems to be no plan for supporting that device under macOS, hence the freeze at SDK 2.3.1 for now...
I hope it's helpful to someone out there! William
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I think Max users can use pd~ to run this.
cheers Miller
On Sun, Dec 25, 2022 at 06:08:44PM -0500, William Brent wrote:
Hey Joao,
Chikashi also has a mac build of [leapmotion] available here <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://puredatajapan.info/?page_id=1514__;!!Mih3... >, but it seems to be using SDK 1. So at least this version allows us to use 2.3.1. That's as far as we can go on macOS unless Leap changes their stance on mac development. But I'm messing around some with the latest 5.7.2 SDK and I'm not having any trouble building/linking on both Linux and Windows. And on those platforms I'm able to connect to both the original Leap Motion Controller and the new Ultraleap hardware.
I'm not sure about the best way to consolidate everything that's been done in this area, especially since I decided to remove the FLEXT layer, which will be important for Max/MSP users. Myself, I'm only interested in building this for Pd and I want to keep things as simple as possible. And if I follow through working with SDK 5.7.2, we'll have access to the latest version of Leap software/hardware on all 3 platforms. I'm totally open to working and organizing together on this...whatever seems to be the best way. I think I'll have time to get the code up to a good stopping point over the holidays.
As for the gestures - do you mean adding a system for training/recognizing user-defined gestures beyond the existing circle/swipe/tap gestures? I'm interested in that idea for sure, but don't have the deep learning chops to pull it off yet.
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 1:21 PM João Pais jmmmpais@gmail.com wrote:
Hi William, nice that you made this also for mac. I'm thinking that since each version of the object is in a different repository (I have the windows version, you have mac, and Chikashi has linux), would it make sense to cross-reference them? I guess putting them all together might be too much.
I haven't used my leap too much, mostly because after some performances I wanted to use more complex control such as gestures. But I couldn't program anything myself, and didn't find any way of using e.g. machine learning or similar for that. Is this some kind of work you also do? Could you recommend any such libraries, even if not for Pd?
Best, Joao
Hi all,
After years of using Chikashi Miyama's [leapmotion] object, I decided to fork his repo in order to make some changes and build against the most recently available Leap SDK for macOS (2.3.1). Information about specific changes can be found by visiting the repo: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/wbrent/leapmotion__;!!Mih3wA!... . I've also uploaded deken packages for macOS/Intel and Linux.
Note that this external is for the original Leap Motion Controller, and not the current Ultraleap Controller. I may keep working on this in order to use the latest Leap SDK (5.7.2) for Ultraleap compatibility under Linux and Windows, but there seems to be no plan for supporting that device under macOS, hence the freeze at SDK 2.3.1 for now...
I hope it's helpful to someone out there! William
-- William Brent
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Hi Miller, yes I can confirm that [pd~] works with this in Max 8. There's also the option of a simple Pd patch that sends the data to Max via OSC, and I'm considering your suggestion from an older thread: just make a command line app that sends the data via OSC. For now I think I'm going to finish this up as an extern...
On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 1:21 PM Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
I think Max users can use pd~ to run this.
cheers Miller
On Sun, Dec 25, 2022 at 06:08:44PM -0500, William Brent wrote:
Hey Joao,
Chikashi also has a mac build of [leapmotion] available here <
https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://puredatajapan.info/?page_id=1514__;!!Mih3...
, but it seems to be using SDK 1. So at least this version allows us to use 2.3.1. That's as far as we can
go
on macOS unless Leap changes their stance on mac development. But I'm messing around some with the latest 5.7.2 SDK and I'm not having any trouble building/linking on both Linux and Windows. And on those
platforms
I'm able to connect to both the original Leap Motion Controller and the
new
Ultraleap hardware.
I'm not sure about the best way to consolidate everything that's been
done
in this area, especially since I decided to remove the FLEXT layer, which will be important for Max/MSP users. Myself, I'm only interested in building this for Pd and I want to keep things as simple as possible. And if I follow through working with SDK 5.7.2, we'll have access to the
latest
version of Leap software/hardware on all 3 platforms. I'm totally open to working and organizing together on this...whatever seems to be the best way. I think I'll have time to get the code up to a good stopping point over the holidays.
As for the gestures - do you mean adding a system for
training/recognizing
user-defined gestures beyond the existing circle/swipe/tap gestures? I'm interested in that idea for sure, but don't have the deep learning chops
to
pull it off yet.
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 1:21 PM João Pais jmmmpais@gmail.com wrote:
Hi William, nice that you made this also for mac. I'm thinking that since each
version
of the object is in a different repository (I have the windows
version, you
have mac, and Chikashi has linux), would it make sense to
cross-reference
them? I guess putting them all together might be too much.
I haven't used my leap too much, mostly because after some
performances I
wanted to use more complex control such as gestures. But I couldn't
program
anything myself, and didn't find any way of using e.g. machine
learning or
similar for that. Is this some kind of work you also do? Could you recommend any such libraries, even if not for Pd?
Best, Joao
Hi all,
After years of using Chikashi Miyama's [leapmotion] object, I decided
to
fork his repo in order to make some changes and build against the most recently available Leap SDK for macOS (2.3.1). Information about
specific
changes can be found by visiting the repo:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/wbrent/leapmotion__;!!Mih3wA!... . I've also uploaded deken packages
for macOS/Intel and Linux.
Note that this external is for the original Leap Motion Controller, and not the current Ultraleap Controller. I may keep working on this in
order
to use the latest Leap SDK (5.7.2) for Ultraleap compatibility under
Linux
and Windows, but there seems to be no plan for supporting that device
under
macOS, hence the freeze at SDK 2.3.1 for now...
I hope it's helpful to someone out there! William
-- William Brent
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True, the abandoned 2.3.1 libLeap.dylib isn't built for arm64. But there's always Rosetta... In a funny cluster of circumstances, under macOS 12.6 it's actually *only* M1 machines that can connect with the Leap controller. The OS doesn't recognize it, but M1 users have a hacky option: go to "Recalibrate Device" in Leap settings then restart the machine. Upon restart, the device is recognized. This doesn't work for Intel macs, so we've got a situation where the only Leap library build option is for the architecture that can't recognize the device: great. I have no idea of the behavior under macOS 13. It may be that Leap hardware is a complete no-go there.
On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 8:24 AM João Pais jmmmpais@gmail.com wrote:
... but not yet with the M1 processors (wink wink)
I think Max users can use pd~ to run this.
cheers Miller
On Sun, Dec 25, 2022 at 06:08:44PM -0500, William Brent wrote:
ah ah actually the wink was for Miller - pd~ doesn't work on M1 yet.
True, the abandoned 2.3.1 libLeap.dylib isn't built for arm64. But there's always Rosetta... In a funny cluster of circumstances, under macOS 12.6 it's actually /only/ M1 machines that can connect with the Leap controller. The OS doesn't recognize it, but M1 users have a hacky option: go to "Recalibrate Device" in Leap settings then restart the machine. Upon restart, the device is recognized. This doesn't work for Intel macs, so we've got a situation where the only Leap library build option is for the architecture that can't recognize the device: great. I have no idea of the behavior under macOS 13. It may be that Leap hardware is a complete no-go there.
Am 28. Dezember 2022 16:20:08 MEZ schrieb "João Pais" jmmmpais@gmail.com:
ah ah actually the wink was for Miller - pd~ doesn't work on M1 yet.
Why not?
mfg.sfg.jfd IOhannes
I don't have a recent enough mac to compile for M1. I'm almost ready to hold my nose and buy one. Mac SDK requires cmake which I don't think my department has managed to get running on their machines yet. UGH...
M
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Am 28. Dezember 2022 16:20:08 MEZ schrieb "João Pais" jmmmpais@gmail.com:
ah ah actually the wink was for Miller - pd~ doesn't work on M1 yet.
Why not?
mfg.sfg.jfd IOhannes
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On 12/28/22, Miller Puckette via Pd-list pd-list@lists.iem.at wrote:
I don't have a recent enough mac to compile for M1. I'm almost ready to hold my nose and buy one.
It would be interesting to try cross compiler https://github.com/tpoechtrager/osxcross. This works for externals and might work for Pd too if we can get dependencies included.
Mac SDK requires cmake which I don't think my
department has managed to get running on their machines yet. UGH...
M
On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 07:49:43PM +0100, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
Am 28. Dezember 2022 16:20:08 MEZ schrieb "João Pais" jmmmpais@gmail.com:
ah ah actually the wink was for Miller - pd~ doesn't work on M1 yet.
Why not?
mfg.sfg.jfd IOhannes
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