We got a new release of Cyclone (0.3 beta 2) - the library that clones Max/MSP objects! Not much news here, but the fact that this version will be the first version from cyclone 0.3 to be included in the next Purr Data release soon. I know I said this about the release of "cyclone 0.3 beta 1", but this time this is for real ;)
Most important changes from beta1 are: operators from the cyclone sub library (like >~, <~, etc) now accept the "cyclone/" prefix, to be compatible to Purr Data, which will not requite a library to load these objects as it has the [hexloader] external built-in.
I hope vanilla could have [hexloader] built in, but this is too unlikely, so the plan is not only to keep using a library named cyclone to carry these operators, but also to include all objects from cyclone into this single binary pack, in the same way as cyclone was once originally distributed.
A couple of other highlights is that we also made major fixes for old [sprintf] and took care of a bug we introduced to [funnel].
This should be up in deken in a day or so, but you can download it here if you like: https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/releases
And stay tuned for the next Purr Data release
cheers
as you might have noticed, all emails that you send to the pd-announce mailinglist will automatically get forwarded to pd-list as well. this is nothing new, it has been in action for more than 11 years [1] and has since been advertised on the pd-announce info page [2].
the consequence of this behaviour is that if you send announcements to both pd-announce and pd-list, your announcement will be sent twice to the pd-list. i think this is a mild annoyance and i would welcome ideas on who to prevent people from accidentally doing this. (it seems to be common enough for people to post to both lists but never wonder why they receive duplicate announcements).
gfadsmr IOhannes
[1] https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-announce/2006-05/000939.html [2] https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce
If they were to post to both lists at the same time, mailman should be clever enough to prevent sending duplicated messages to who subscribers that are in both lists? Or at least if mailman is not that clever, many mail clients would be able to detect the duplicate and show a single message. But if you send two distinct messages, this cannot be filtered out.
Giulio
From: "zmoelnig@iem.at" zmoelnig@iem.at To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Sent: Monday, 19 June 2017, 20:13 Subject: [PD] [OT] pd-announce vs pd-list (was Re: Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released)
as you might have noticed, all emails that you send to the pd-announce mailinglist will automatically get forwarded to pd-list as well. this is nothing new, it has been in action for more than 11 years [1] and has since been advertised on the pd-announce info page [2].
the consequence of this behaviour is that if you send announcements to both pd-announce and pd-list, your announcement will be sent twice to the pd-list. i think this is a mild annoyance and i would welcome ideas on who to prevent people from accidentally doing this. (it seems to be common enough for people to post to both lists but never wonder why they receive duplicate announcements).
gfadsmr IOhannes
[1] https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-announce/2006-05/000939.html
[2] https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
I meant to only send it to pd-announce, but then I sent to the pd-list instead, so I just re sent it to pd-announce...
2017-06-19 16:18 GMT-03:00 Giulio Moro via Pd-list pd-list@lists.iem.at:
If they were to post to both lists at the same time, mailman should be clever enough to prevent sending duplicated messages to who subscribers that are in both lists? Or at least if mailman is not that clever, many mail clients would be able to detect the duplicate and show a single message. But if you send two distinct messages, this cannot be filtered out.
Giulio
From: "zmoelnig@iem.at" zmoelnig@iem.at To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Sent: Monday, 19 June 2017, 20:13 Subject: [PD] [OT] pd-announce vs pd-list (was Re: Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released)
as you might have noticed, all emails that you send to the pd-announce mailinglist will automatically get forwarded to pd-list as well. this is nothing new, it has been in action for more than 11 years [1] and has since been advertised on the pd-announce info page [2].
the consequence of this behaviour is that if you send announcements to both pd-announce and pd-list, your announcement will be sent twice to the pd-list. i think this is a mild annoyance and i would welcome ideas on who to prevent people from accidentally doing this. (it seems to be common enough for people to post to both lists but never wonder why they receive duplicate announcements).
gfadsmr IOhannes
[1] https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-announce/2006-05/000939.html
[2] https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list
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Hi Alex,
I'm having troubles with the new [coll] on MsWindows.
It seems that using it with no-threading crashes Pd.
Opening the help patch crashes but creating a [cyclone/coll a] don't. But if you create a [cyclone/coll a @threaded 0] it crashes.
I also try compiling the sources but is the same.
can you fix it?
Salutti, Lucarda.
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From: Pd-list pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at on behalf of Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 6:39 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
We got a new release of Cyclone (0.3 beta 2) - the library that clones Max/MSP objects! Not much news here, but the fact that this version will be the first version from cyclone 0.3 to be included in the next Purr Data release soon. I know I said this about the release of "cyclone 0.3 beta 1", but this time this is for real [https://www.facebook.com/images/emoji.php/v9/f95/3/16/1f609.png] ;)
Most important changes from beta1 are: operators from the cyclone sub library (like >~, <~, etc) now accept the "cyclone/" prefix, to be compatible to Purr Data, which will not requite a library to load these objects as it has the [hexloader] external built-in.
I hope vanilla could have [hexloader] built in, but this is too unlikely, so the plan is not only to keep using a library named cyclone to carry these operators, but also to include all objects from cyclone into this single binary pack, in the same way as cyclone was once originally distributed.
A couple of other highlights is that we also made major fixes for old [sprintf] and took care of a bug we introduced to [funnel].
This should be up in deken in a day or so, but you can download it here if you like: https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/releases
And stay tuned for the next Purr Data release
cheers
ok, that wasn't really tested, and we did change/improve a couple of minor bugs in [coll], so maybe that introduced it.
we'll check on it, thanks. If you want, you can go ahead and create an issue at https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/issues
just use the default threaded behaviour for now ;) (does it work well, by the way?)
cheers
2017-06-19 16:50 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
Hi Alex,
I'm having troubles with the new [coll] on MsWindows.
It seems that using it with no-threading crashes Pd.
Opening the help patch crashes but creating a [cyclone/coll a] don't. But if you create a [cyclone/coll a @threaded 0] it crashes.
I also try compiling the sources but is the same.
can you fix it?
Salutti, Lucarda.
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*From:* Pd-list pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at on behalf of Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, June 19, 2017 6:39 PM *To:* pd-list@lists.iem.at *Subject:* [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
We got a new release of Cyclone (0.3 beta 2) - the library that clones Max/MSP objects! Not much news here, but the fact that this version will be the first version from cyclone 0.3 to be included in the next Purr Data release soon. I know I said this about the release of "cyclone 0.3 beta 1", but this time this is for real ;)
Most important changes from beta1 are: operators from the cyclone sub library (like >~, <~, etc) now accept the "cyclone/" prefix, to be compatible to Purr Data, which will not requite a library to load these objects as it has the [hexloader] external built-in.
I hope vanilla could have [hexloader] built in, but this is too unlikely, so the plan is not only to keep using a library named cyclone to carry these operators, but also to include all objects from cyclone into this single binary pack, in the same way as cyclone was once originally distributed.
A couple of other highlights is that we also made major fixes for old [sprintf] and took care of a bug we introduced to [funnel].
This should be up in deken in a day or so, but you can download it here if you like: https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/releases
And stay tuned for the next Purr Data release
cheers
we'll check on it, thanks. If you want, you can go ahead and create an issue
done.
just use the default threaded behaviour for now ;) (does it work well, by the way?)
Will test it ASAP but the main trouble is that we can't open the help patch because it contains unthreaded [coll]s
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2017-06-19 17:11 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
*> we'll check on it, thanks. If you want, you can go ahead and create an issue *
done.
*> just use the default threaded behaviour for now ;) (does it work well, by the way?)*
Will test it ASAP but the main trouble is that we can't open the help patch because it contains unthreaded [coll]s
I know, that is really bad!! I say this calls for an urgent beta-3 release ASAP, and in order to make it into the next purr data release around the corner
but I can say I had tested it in MacOS, and there was no issue, so hopefully this is just a windows thingy...
Windows users might wanna stick to the last beta-1 version for now, maybe...
btw, this is already up in deken
2017-06-19 17:17 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com:
2017-06-19 17:11 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
*> we'll check on it, thanks. If you want, you can go ahead and create an issue *
done.
*> just use the default threaded behaviour for now ;) (does it work well, by the way?)*
Will test it ASAP but the main trouble is that we can't open the help patch because it contains unthreaded [coll]s
I know, that is really bad!! I say this calls for an urgent beta-3 release ASAP, and in order to make it into the next purr data release around the corner
2017-06-19 17:21 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com:
but I can say I had tested it in MacOS, and there was no issue, so hopefully this is just a windows thingy...
yeah, derek worked on this on linux... so it's definitely just a windows issue.
gladly, I can test it on windows so we can make sure this is fixed on the next release
2017-06-19 17:11 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
the main trouble is that we can't open the help patch because it contains unthreaded [coll]s
you could, however, manually delete that unthreaded coll from the help file, just so it doesn't crash Pd
cheers
you could, however, manually delete that unthreaded coll from the help file, just so it doesn't crash Pd
You don't want users to do that, and is not so easy btw, as we have to rename the cyclone folder to open coll-help, so that it not crash (because it can't load [coll]).
But surely this is the faster workaround for 0.3 beta 2. You can update the coll-help so that it does not create unthreaded [coll]s. You can “comment” how to use the unthreaded [coll] and inform that for now is not supported on MsWindows.
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From: Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 8:28 PM To: Lucas Cordiviola Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
2017-06-19 17:11 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27@hotmail.commailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com>:
the main trouble is that we can't open the help patch because it contains unthreaded [coll]s
you could, however, manually delete that unthreaded coll from the help file, just so it doesn't crash Pd
cheers
we're just gonna fix this whenever we can and release an update, I'm just giving you ideas if you want to use this
cheers
2017-06-19 18:37 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
*>you could, however, manually delete that unthreaded coll from the help file, just so it doesn't crash Pd *
You don't want users to do that, and is not so easy btw, as we have to rename the cyclone folder to open coll-help, so that it not crash (because it can't load [coll]).
But surely this is the faster workaround for 0.3 beta 2. You can update the coll-help so that it does not create unthreaded [coll]s. You can “comment” how to use the unthreaded [coll] and inform that for now is not supported on MsWindows.
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*From:* Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, June 19, 2017 8:28 PM *To:* Lucas Cordiviola *Cc:* pd-list@lists.iem.at *Subject:* Re: [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
2017-06-19 17:11 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
the main trouble is that we can't open the help patch because it contains unthreaded [coll]s
you could, however, manually delete that unthreaded coll from the help file, just so it doesn't crash Pd
cheers
Ok,
Note that on a clean win10 machine you *can* open the help-patch but you can't use [coll], either threaded or not. This new version uses “pthreadGC-3.dll” & “libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll”, this last one is not in the PKG so no crashes because it don't load. If “libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll” is placed you can use the unthreaded [coll].
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From: Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 12:44 AM To: Lucas Cordiviola Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
we're just gonna fix this whenever we can and release an update, I'm just giving you ideas if you want to use this
cheers
2017-06-19 18:37 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27@hotmail.commailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com>:
you could, however, manually delete that unthreaded coll from the help file, just so it doesn't crash Pd
You don't want users to do that, and is not so easy btw, as we have to rename the cyclone folder to open coll-help, so that it not crash (because it can't load [coll]).
But surely this is the faster workaround for 0.3 beta 2. You can update the coll-help so that it does not create unthreaded [coll]s. You can “comment” how to use the unthreaded [coll] and inform that for now is not supported on MsWindows.
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From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.commailto:porres@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 8:28 PM To: Lucas Cordiviola Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.atmailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
2017-06-19 17:11 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27@hotmail.commailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com>:
the main trouble is that we can't open the help patch because it contains unthreaded [coll]s
you could, however, manually delete that unthreaded coll from the help file, just so it doesn't crash Pd
cheers
If “libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll” is placed you can use the unthreaded [coll].
Sorry, the *threaded* one.
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From: Pd-list pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at on behalf of Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 3:11 AM To: Alexandre Torres Porres Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
Ok,
Note that on a clean win10 machine you *can* open the help-patch but you can't use [coll], either threaded or not. This new version uses “pthreadGC-3.dll” & “libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll”, this last one is not in the PKG so no crashes because it don't load. If “libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll” is placed you can use the unthreaded [coll].
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From: Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 12:44 AM To: Lucas Cordiviola Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
we're just gonna fix this whenever we can and release an update, I'm just giving you ideas if you want to use this
cheers
2017-06-19 18:37 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27@hotmail.commailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com>:
you could, however, manually delete that unthreaded coll from the help file, just so it doesn't crash Pd
You don't want users to do that, and is not so easy btw, as we have to rename the cyclone folder to open coll-help, so that it not crash (because it can't load [coll]).
But surely this is the faster workaround for 0.3 beta 2. You can update the coll-help so that it does not create unthreaded [coll]s. You can “comment” how to use the unthreaded [coll] and inform that for now is not supported on MsWindows.
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From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.commailto:porres@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 8:28 PM To: Lucas Cordiviola Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.atmailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
2017-06-19 17:11 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27@hotmail.commailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com>:
the main trouble is that we can't open the help patch because it contains unthreaded [coll]s
you could, however, manually delete that unthreaded coll from the help file, just so it doesn't crash Pd
cheers
you can add all these details and we can further discuss this in the issue you created at https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/issues/332
it is very welcome that you do so, your help sorting out [coll] is really important. Please let's move this discussion there and not pollute the pd mail list ;)
thanks
2017-06-20 14:14 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
*>If “libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll” is placed you can use the unthreaded [coll].*
Sorry, the *threaded* one.
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*From:* Pd-list pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at on behalf of Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 20, 2017 3:11 AM *To:* Alexandre Torres Porres
*Cc:* pd-list@lists.iem.at *Subject:* Re: [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
Ok,
Note that on a clean win10 machine you *can* open the help-patch but you can't use [coll], either threaded or not. This new version uses “pthreadGC-3.dll” & “libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll”, this last one is not in the PKG so no crashes because it don't load. If “libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll” is placed you can use the unthreaded [coll].
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*From:* Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 20, 2017 12:44 AM *To:* Lucas Cordiviola *Cc:* pd-list@lists.iem.at *Subject:* Re: [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
we're just gonna fix this whenever we can and release an update, I'm just giving you ideas if you want to use this
cheers
2017-06-19 18:37 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
*>you could, however, manually delete that unthreaded coll from the help file, just so it doesn't crash Pd *
You don't want users to do that, and is not so easy btw, as we have to rename the cyclone folder to open coll-help, so that it not crash (because it can't load [coll]).
But surely this is the faster workaround for 0.3 beta 2. You can update the coll-help so that it does not create unthreaded [coll]s. You can “comment” how to use the unthreaded [coll] and inform that for now is not supported on MsWindows.
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*From:* Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, June 19, 2017 8:28 PM *To:* Lucas Cordiviola *Cc:* pd-list@lists.iem.at *Subject:* Re: [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
2017-06-19 17:11 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
the main trouble is that we can't open the help patch because it contains unthreaded [coll]s
you could, however, manually delete that unthreaded coll from the help file, just so it doesn't crash Pd
cheers
Lucas, this has been fixed, can you try and build from our repo?
anyway, an update will come anytime, and be included in the next purr data release
cheers and thanks again
2017-06-20 21:14 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com:
you can add all these details and we can further discuss this in the issue you created at https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/issues/332
it is very welcome that you do so, your help sorting out [coll] is really important. Please let's move this discussion there and not pollute the pd mail list ;)
thanks
2017-06-20 14:14 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
*>If “libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll” is placed you can use the unthreaded [coll].*
Sorry, the *threaded* one.
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*From:* Pd-list pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at on behalf of Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 20, 2017 3:11 AM *To:* Alexandre Torres Porres
*Cc:* pd-list@lists.iem.at *Subject:* Re: [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
Ok,
Note that on a clean win10 machine you *can* open the help-patch but you can't use [coll], either threaded or not. This new version uses “pthreadGC-3.dll” & “libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll”, this last one is not in the PKG so no crashes because it don't load. If “libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll” is placed you can use the unthreaded [coll].
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*From:* Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 20, 2017 12:44 AM *To:* Lucas Cordiviola *Cc:* pd-list@lists.iem.at *Subject:* Re: [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
we're just gonna fix this whenever we can and release an update, I'm just giving you ideas if you want to use this
cheers
2017-06-19 18:37 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
*>you could, however, manually delete that unthreaded coll from the help file, just so it doesn't crash Pd *
You don't want users to do that, and is not so easy btw, as we have to rename the cyclone folder to open coll-help, so that it not crash (because it can't load [coll]).
But surely this is the faster workaround for 0.3 beta 2. You can update the coll-help so that it does not create unthreaded [coll]s. You can “comment” how to use the unthreaded [coll] and inform that for now is not supported on MsWindows.
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*From:* Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, June 19, 2017 8:28 PM *To:* Lucas Cordiviola *Cc:* pd-list@lists.iem.at *Subject:* Re: [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
2017-06-19 17:11 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
the main trouble is that we can't open the help patch because it contains unthreaded [coll]s
you could, however, manually delete that unthreaded coll from the help file, just so it doesn't crash Pd
cheers
can you try and build from our repo?
It's working OK,
I just posted on the Github,
Thanxs!
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From: Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 1:36 AM To: Lucas Cordiviola Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
Lucas, this has been fixed, can you try and build from our repo?
anyway, an update will come anytime, and be included in the next purr data release
cheers and thanks again
2017-06-20 21:14 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.commailto:porres@gmail.com>: you can add all these details and we can further discuss this in the issue you created at https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/issues/332
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