Pd-list November 2018

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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] Updated Pure Data Reference Card
by Fede Camara Halac 10 Nov '18

10 Nov '18

Hi, Perhaps you can just pandoc the latex into Readme.md or index.html file instead of pushing a pdf file? Also, was the ref card updated manually or were you using a script to get a list of updated objects, etc? If so, it would be nice to have that script as part of the repo thanks for this, looks awesome! f > On Nov 10, 2018, at 7:28 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> wrote: > >> On 11/10/18 6:43 PM, Orm Finnendahl wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Am Samstag, den 10. November 2018 um 11:42 Uhr schrieb IOhannes m >> zmoelnig: >> >>> adding generated files to the *repository* itself is a bad idea in >>> general. >> >> ??? >> >> It is common practice for an abundant number of software projects to >> put rendered examples in binary format > > > that doesn't make it any better practice. > what's the benefit of putting volatile binary data into a repository? > > most users don't ever have a need to to visit the repository. > a repository is for source code. > it is *not* the place to download binaries from. for this you have > "release pages" or whatever. > so the proper solution is to direct the end users to the proper place to > get the built-data. > > gfmards > IOhannes > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-dev mailing list > Pd-dev(a)lists.iem.at > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

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[PD-announce] CfP for Workshops and Tutorials at ICAD 2019
by Paul Vickers 09 Nov '18

09 Nov '18

(Apologies for cross-postings) ICAD 2019 — Call for Submission of Workshops and Tutorials 25th International Conference on Auditory Display Northumbria University, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, UK 23–27 June, 2019 https://icad2019.icad.org https://twitter.com/ICAD2019 Theme/Special Focus of ICAD 2019 is "Digital Living: Sonification for Everyday Life". ICAD workshops and tutorials provide in-depth opportunities for conference attendees to discuss and explore important aspects of the field of auditory display with like-minded researchers and practitioners. Sessions can range from applications and programming methodologies to interdisciplinary research skills, emerging research areas, and challenge problems, to sonification/compositional Maker sessions. Space, facilities, technical support, and the number of sessions that can be accepted are limited, so early submission of proposals is encouraged. Workshop and tutorial organizers are expected to collaborate with the conference committee, issue calls for participation, gather and review contributed materials (if appropriate), and decide upon the final programme for their session. Important Dates: - 8 March 2019 — Workshop/Tutorial proposals due  - 9 April 2019 — Notification of decision For details on topics of interest, proposal format, submission instructions, and additional conference information please visit https://icad2019.icad.org/call-for-participation#workshops Workshop/Tutorial Chair: Derek Brock icad2019workshops(a)icad.org Conference Chairs: Paul Vickers and Matti Gröhn icad2019chairs(a)icad.org About ICAD: First held in 1992, ICAD is a highly interdisciplinary conference with relevance to researchers, practitioners, artists, and graduate students working with sound to convey and explore information. The conference is unique in its specific focus on auditory displays and the range of interdisciplinary issues related to their use. Like its predecessors, ICAD 2019 will be a single-track conference, open to all, with no membership or affiliation requirements. -- Paul Vickers Co-chair of ICAD 2019: https://icad2019.icad.org This message is intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. Any use, disclosure or reproduction without the sender’s explicit consent is unauthorised and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify Northumbria University immediately and permanently delete it. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the University. Northumbria University email is provided by Microsoft Office365 and is hosted within the EEA, although some information may be replicated globally for backup purposes. The University cannot guarantee that this message or any attachment is virus free or has not been intercepted and/or amended. _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] monitoring function REC-Play for looper
by Dan Wilcox 09 Nov '18

09 Nov '18

This is also covered in section 2.3.3. "hot and cold inlets and right to left outlet order" in the manual which is included with Pd under the Help menu. Id' suggest reading through the manual as it covers most of the concepts you need to get a hang of patching. > On Nov 9, 2018, at 8:58 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 08:53:23 +0100 > From: Clemens <reinklang(a)online.de <mailto:reinklang@online.de>> > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] monitoring function REC-Play for looper > Message-ID: <b4d6341d-8151-3d69-5d04-cc273fd02bd6(a)online.de <mailto:b4d6341d-8151-3d69-5d04-cc273fd02bd6@online.de>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Thank you very much for your detailed explanations, > > they were very helpful for my understanding!! > > Cheers Clemens > > > Am 08.11.18 um 14:05 schrieb Roman Haefeli: >> On Thu, 2018-11-08 at 13:23 +0100, Clemens wrote: >>> But what do you mean with "fan-outs"? >> A fan-out in Pd usually means that a single outlet is connected to two >> or more inlets. IOhannes strongly advises you to get rid of them, >> because the order the many inlets receive the message from the outlet >> is not defined. This is the single-most frequent source of bugs in Pd >> patches. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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monitoring function REC-Play for looper
by Clemens 09 Nov '18

09 Nov '18

Hi List, I want to add a control toogle to a looper patch created by Andy Farnell, I attached the patch. I want to have a monitoring function to see if the looper is in record mode or in play mode and if the the looper is switched on or not. The patch has got two bangs, one for rec and one for play and what ever I tried, either both toogles are switched on or not any. Any suggestions?! Thank you very much in advance! Clemens

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Keeping GEM Window "always on top" on OSX
by Jim Ruxton 09 Nov '18

09 Nov '18

In Linux when using GEM I can right click on a GEM window and select "Always on Top" to keep the GEM window the topmost window. I am wondering how you would do this on OSX. I noticed there is a "topmost " command for gemwin but according to the documentation this only works in Windows. How do I do it on OSX? Thanks, Jim

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VCV & Pd: Looking for a Champion
by pat pagano 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

Hello I am a long time pd user and recently on the pd group Andrew Belt, main developer of VCV Rack inquired about a VCV pd module. If you’re not familiar with it VCV Rack is a very powerful and successful open source, cross platform modular synth emulation with lieterally 10s of thousands of users. It’s honestly the most exciting free piece of software since pd was released. I would list pure data, supercollider, csound and now VCV as the most important open source audio Control ans Design tools available. Would/could someone on the pd list make a VCV external or a way to load or make pd work inside VCV? It could be an awesome way for rapid prototyping and could be a wonderful connection for pd I don’t have the programming chops to make it but I’m reaching out here to mention this wonderful idea and hoopedull find a champion to help us place pd and it’s awesome power into once of the most significant new tools I’ve encountered in years With respect Patrick -- Patrick Pagano B.S.,M.F.A Assistant Professor in Residence Digital Media Design & Development University of Connecticut, Stamford

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] jl lib
by Joseph Larralde 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

Hi Lucas, Thanks a lot for the hints ! I'm curious to know how you compiled the win64 version. From what I remember, I installed msys2 and could only compile using the 32 bit version. Later I added the [tonnetz] object to the library and had to add the "cflags = -std=c++11" line in the makefile in order for it to compile (because of some c++ vector initializers I introduced in my underlying c++ lib). Then I didn't push my investigations forward because ATM I was happy enough with the windows 32 bit version and had a working fat external for mac. That's good to know that I just need to add a "+" to the makefile to get the lib to compile for windows 64 bit, and, apparently, to get all objects to work except gbend~ (if I understood correctly what you implied). I'll try the changes that you suggested. I hope I won't have to rewrite a part of my underlying lib's API. If one can just cast a t_word into a float or a double, things should go smoothly. Cheers, Joseph Le 08/11/18 à 09:45, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at a écrit : > Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 08:10:20 +0000 > From: Lucas Cordiviola<lucarda27(a)hotmail.com> > To:"pd-list(a)iem.at" <pd-list(a)iem.at>, PD ANNOUNCE > <pd-announce(a)iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] jl lib > Message-ID: > <BN3PR01MB195634EA43279FC18018FF97A6C50(a)BN3PR01MB1956.prod.exchangelabs.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On 11/7/2018 1:07 PM, Joseph Larralde wrote: > I'd be glad to hear any kind of feedback if you give it a try. > > Hi Joseph, > > Some feedback: > > I tried compiling the .dek sources for windows64bit and found trouble and solution: > > On "Makefile" line 69 I changed "=" to "+=" : > > cflags = -std=c++11 > > to > > cflags += -std=c++11 > > Now all objects compile fine. > > Now when I open "gbend~-help.pd" i get this error on the console: > > An operation on the array 'flatten-table' in the patch 'flatten-table' > failed since it uses garray_getfloatarray while running 64-bit! > An operation on the array 'aaa' in the patch 'aaa' > failed since it uses garray_getfloatarray while running 64-bit! > > > I think this is somehow the same problem that happened to CXC and there is a debian patch file (attached) that might give you clues on how to fix it. i.e: > > - float *x_vec; > + t_word *x_vec; > > - else if (!garray_getfloatarray(a, &x->x_nsampsintab, &x->x_vec)) > + else if (!garray_getfloatwords(a, &x->x_nsampsintab, &x->x_vec)) > > > > :) > > Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] jl lib
by Joseph Larralde 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

Hi Pat, Yes, [stut~] is a stutter. A quite basic one I must say, but I had to write an external because all the previous abstraction attempts I made always had some artifacts. I still need to make releases of the library for windows 64 and all flavours of linux ... It seems I have some 64 bit issues with the [gbend~] object which deals with tables. I need to work this out but Lucas already gave me a part of the solution. I'll make new announces as new platforms become available. Joseph > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 21:45:26 -0500 > From: pat pagano <shreeswifty(a)gmail.com> > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] jl lib > Message-ID: > <CACNDWJoebER0qY_2wVptHAFwBus66n+8mwYkzTJaCT6yrhA0ig(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I’d love to try on Linux 64 > What is stut~ a stutter? > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 11:16 AM Joseph Larralde <joseph.larralde(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi everyone here, >> >> Recently I released a lib for pd vanilla which is now available through >> deken as "jl". >> Thanks to everyone who made this possible, deken and pd-lib-builder >> really ease the process ! >> FYI, the jl library contains a collection of sound generators (sample >> players, fm, and granular stuff), and some audio effects. >> It also has a bunch of non-signal utilities, including some objects that >> allow to play with musical scales. >> I'm mostly proud of the [gbend~], [sidechain~] and [stut~] externals, >> but I hope you might find some of the others useful too. >> >> It is available for mac and windows 32 bit at the moment. >> I'd be glad to hear any kind of feedback if you give it a try. >> >> Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-announce mailing list >> Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>

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invoking [value] and [send] objects without arguments
by Jean-Yves Gratius 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

Hello, I noticed (pd 0.49) that [value] invoked without creation argument is "listening" to any [send] invoked without creation argument. This can lead to error message ("value : no method for ...") when passing any message to the send object. This is a logical behaviour, as you shouldn't pass a message to a send object without specified target. But in my case I spent some time before discovering the error I made in my patch. What do you think about one of following feature request ? 1) warn about this behaviour in hel patch ? or 2) generate a warning in console when using send without target ? thks JYG

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[PD-announce] jl lib
by Joseph Larralde 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

Hi everyone here, Recently I released a lib for pd vanilla which is now available through deken as "jl". Thanks to everyone who made this possible, deken and pd-lib-builder really ease the process ! FYI, the jl library contains a collection of sound generators (sample players, fm, and granular stuff), and some audio effects. It also has a bunch of non-signal utilities, including some objects that allow to play with musical scales. I'm mostly proud of the [gbend~], [sidechain~] and [stut~] externals, but I hope you might find some of the others useful too. It is available for mac and windows 32 bit at the moment. I'd be glad to hear any kind of feedback if you give it a try. Cheers, Joseph _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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