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MIDI specifications for Multidimensional Polyphonic Expression (MPE) in Pd
by Alexandre Torres Porres 26 Oct '23

26 Oct '23

some new objects for MPE Midi is on Max's new update, just googled it to see what it was http://expressiveness.org/2015/04/24/midi-specifications-for-multidimension… wonder if you guys know anything about this and if anyone would be into bringing this to Pd. cheers

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"Could'nt create"...
by David Schaffer 15 Aug '19

15 Aug '19

Hi everybody, I’ve been away from pd for about a year and, in the meantime, switched from mac to pc. I just reeinstalled the latest version of vanilla for Windows and I’m trying to reopen my old patches. There’s a few objects that won’t pop up and I can’t identify the libraries I’m missing. I thought you guys could help me figure that out. The objects are : Knob, splitfilename, Folder_list. Thank you very much for your help. D.S

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Re: [PD] Japanese language problem
by Dan Wilcox 31 Jan '19

31 Jan '19

It's a bug. Pd should be able to handle unicode in this case. In the meantime, you can set the LANG environment variable when starting Pd to English as detailed in https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/po/README.txt#L42 <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/po/README.txt#L42> > Hello, > > Pure Data throws the following error when I try to open up Media>Audio > Settings: > > (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: extra characters after close-brace > while executing > "lappend audio_indevlist {}CN (Realtek High Definition} > global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {} > lappend audio_outdevlist {Xs [J ..." > ("uplevel" body line 2) > invoked from within > "uplevel #0 $docmds" > > My OS is in Japanese and, according to this page ( > https://drugscore.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-194.html <https://drugscore.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-194.html>), I need to change the > language setting of my OS to English (presumably other European languages > would work, since I've used PD on a German-language system) to bypass this > system. > > Just wondering if there was another fix- it's not a big deal for me to > change the settings, but maybe for Japanese people interested in PD it > would be. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Text insert and delete in PdDroid
by Chris McCormick 24 Jan '19

24 Jan '19

Hi Arnault, The [text] element does not work because the version of Pd that ships with PdDroidParty is currently out of date. I'm sort of working on a new build but not sure when I will get that working. Patches welcome! Cheers, Chris. On 10/07/18 00:08, Arnault Malgat wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to design a patch for PdDroidParty in wich I need to > dynamically modifie the content of a [text] object, but [text insert] > and [text delete] don't seems to work. > Is it even possible or should I try to find a way using lists (wich > would be a drag since I can't find how to make [list store] work either) ? > > This patch does not involve any audio treatment at all but is a 4/4 bar > rythm generator for my percussions students. > Each rythm is an image wich appear on a canvas (they were initially > drawed using [filledcurved] and [drawpolygon] but as only GUI objects > are shown by PdDroid, it's the easiest way around i've thinked of when I > decided to make it usable on tablets) > The canvas receives are listed in a [text define -k rythme_list] object > and randomly selected to be shown or not. > As the knowledge of rythm depends on the student's level, I need this > rythm list to be editable from inside the app (so I don't have to edit > it all along the year for each of my pupils). That's where [text insert] > and [text delete] comes at play. > It works fine on PdVanilla but does not on my android device. > > The patch with comment, if needed, is attached. > > Thanks > > Arnault > > > #N canvas 201 120 499 276 10;#X obj 1 207 text define -k rythme_list;#A > set mi \; di \; ka \; ta \;;#N canvas -8 -8 1366 726 gen 0;#X obj 200 16 > cnv 15 120 120 empty empty coord 20 12 0 14 -233017 -66577 > 0;#X obj 57 13 r generate;#X obj 57 44 t b b; > #N canvas -8 -8 1366 726 reset 0; > #X obj 44 14 inlet; > #X msg 44 81 \; \$1 pos 500 500; > #X obj 44 48 list split 1; > #X obj 9 49 t l; > #X connect 0 0 2 0; > #X connect 2 0 1 0; > #X connect 2 1 3 0; > #X connect 3 0 2 0; > #X restore 47 402 pd reset; > #N canvas -8 -8 1366 726 save_state 0; > #X obj 81 124 list prepend; > #X msg 81 82 \$1\$2; > #X obj 81 46 inlet; > #X obj 24 99 inlet; > #X text 81 25 state; > #X text 23 80 bang; > #X obj 57 294 outlet; > #X obj 81 163 t l; > #X obj 57 236 list; > #X obj 18 147 t b b b; > #X connect 0 0 7 0; > #X connect 1 0 0 0; > #X connect 2 0 1 0; > #X connect 3 0 9 0; > #X connect 7 0 0 1; > #X connect 7 0 8 1; > #X connect 8 0 6 0; > #X connect 9 0 8 1; > #X connect 9 1 0 1; > #X connect 9 2 8 0; > #X restore 47 368 pd save_state; > #N canvas -204 7 1366 719 instructions 0; > #N canvas 708 35 454 358 list_gen 0; > #X obj 63 115 text search rythme_list, f 11; > #X obj 63 90 symbol; > #X obj 63 156 sel -1; > #X obj 226 246 list; > #X obj 226 269 text insert rythme_list, f 11; > #X obj 29 268 text delete rythme_list, f 12; > #X obj 114 11 inlet; > #X obj 2 308 outlet; > #X obj 2 195 t b f; > #X obj 63 189 t b b; > #X obj 114 58 t l l; > #X obj 114 36 list; > #X text 147 122 text search works; > #X text 110 260 can't find a way to make this work, f 13; > #X text 299 263 can't find a way to make this work, f 14; > #X connect 0 0 2 0; > #X connect 1 0 0 0; > #X connect 2 0 9 0; > #X connect 2 1 8 0; > #X connect 3 0 4 0; > #X connect 6 0 11 0; > #X connect 8 0 7 0; > #X connect 8 1 5 0; > #X connect 9 0 7 0; > #X connect 9 1 3 0; > #X connect 10 0 1 0; > #X connect 10 1 3 1; > #X connect 11 0 10 0; > #X restore 433 115 pd list_gen; > #X obj 400 255 random; > #X obj 433 197 text size rythme_list; > #X obj 400 294 text get rythme_list; > #X obj 433 81 r rythme; > #X obj 442 167 loadbang; > #X msg 212 114 4; > #N canvas -8 -8 1600 818 uzi 0; > #X obj 27 142 until; > #X obj 26 173 f; > #X obj 72 174 + 1; > #X obj 137 255 sel; > #X obj 152 218 - 1; > #X msg 137 297 0; > #X obj 62 82 t f f; > #X obj 85 446 outlet; > #X obj 62 50 inlet; > #X obj 28 379 t f b; > #X obj 27 443 outlet; > #X connect 0 0 1 0; > #X connect 1 0 2 0; > #X connect 1 0 3 0; > #X connect 1 0 9 0; > #X connect 2 0 1 1; > #X connect 3 0 5 0; > #X connect 4 0 3 1; > #X connect 5 0 1 1; > #X connect 6 0 0 0; > #X connect 6 1 4 0; > #X connect 8 0 6 0; > #X connect 9 0 10 0; > #X connect 9 1 7 0; > #X restore 212 148 pd uzi; > #N canvas -8 -8 1366 726 offset 0; > #X obj 96 174 +; > #X obj 96 140 *; > #X obj 96 278 outlet; > #X obj 33 52 inlet; > #X obj 111 50 inlet; > #X obj 205 50 inlet; > #X text 36 31 uzi; > #X text 201 30 x offset; > #X text 97 29 canvas size x; > #X obj 282 49 inlet; > #X obj 107 230 pack f f; > #X text 277 30 y offset; > #X connect 0 0 10 0; > #X connect 1 0 0 0; > #X connect 3 0 1 0; > #X connect 4 0 1 1; > #X connect 5 0 0 1; > #X connect 9 0 10 1; > #X connect 10 0 2 0; > #X restore 211 275 pd offset; > #X obj 211 374 list prepend; > #X obj 212 185 t f f; > #X obj 211 349 list prepend; > #X obj 280 313 + 1; > #X msg 211 484 \; \$1\$2 pos \$3 \$4; > #X obj 324 497 outlet; > #X obj 212 80 inlet; > #X obj 277 80 inlet; > #X obj 317 80 inlet; > #X obj 357 80 inlet; > #X text 508 109 add/remove rythm from generation list, f 20; > #X text 564 197 text size works; > #X text 525 294 text get works; > #X connect 0 0 2 0; > #X connect 1 0 3 0; > #X connect 2 0 1 1; > #X connect 3 0 9 1; > #X connect 4 0 0 0; > #X connect 5 0 2 0; > #X connect 6 0 7 0; > #X connect 7 0 10 0; > #X connect 7 1 1 0; > #X connect 8 0 11 0; > #X connect 9 0 13 0; > #X connect 9 0 14 0; > #X connect 10 0 8 0; > #X connect 10 1 12 0; > #X connect 11 0 9 0; > #X connect 12 0 11 1; > #X connect 15 0 6 0; > #X connect 16 0 8 1; > #X connect 17 0 8 2; > #X connect 18 0 8 3; > #X restore 122 301 pd instructions; > #X msg 285 48 110; > #X msg 286 80 40; > #X msg 285 106 100; > #X text 202 109 canva size x; > #X text 267 79 x; > #X text 267 48 y; > #X obj 329 14 loadbang; > #X text 135 369 keep list of shown canvas; > #X text 102 404 send back shown canvas off screen; > #X text 222 290 randomly select and move canvas on screen, f 17; > #X obj 11 265 r clear; > #X connect 1 0 2 0; > #X connect 2 0 5 0; > #X connect 2 1 4 0; > #X connect 4 0 3 0; > #X connect 5 0 4 1; > #X connect 6 0 5 3; > #X connect 7 0 5 2; > #X connect 8 0 5 1; > #X connect 12 0 6 0; > #X connect 12 0 7 0; > #X connect 12 0 8 0; > #X connect 16 0 4 0; > #X restore 60 240 pd gen; > #N canvas -8 -8 1366 726 add 0; > #N canvas -8 -8 1366 726 uzi 0; > #X obj 27 142 until; > #X obj 26 173 f; > #X obj 72 174 + 1; > #X obj 137 255 sel; > #X obj 152 218 - 1; > #X msg 137 297 0; > #X obj 62 82 t f f; > #X obj 85 446 outlet; > #X obj 62 50 inlet; > #X obj 28 379 t f b; > #X obj 27 443 outlet; > #X connect 0 0 1 0; > #X connect 1 0 2 0; > #X connect 1 0 3 0; > #X connect 1 0 9 0; > #X connect 2 0 1 1; > #X connect 3 0 5 0; > #X connect 4 0 3 1; > #X connect 5 0 1 1; > #X connect 6 0 0 0; > #X connect 6 1 4 0; > #X connect 8 0 6 0; > #X connect 9 0 10 0; > #X connect 9 1 7 0; > #X restore 42 121 pd uzi; > #X obj 72 196 symbol; > #X msg 42 96 4; > #X obj 44 60 t b a; > #X obj 42 249 list prepend; > #X obj 42 176 + 1; > #X text 12 24 name; > #X msg 42 284 \; pd-droidparty_main.pd obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 \$1 > \$1\$2 \$1 20 12 2 14 10 2; > #X msg 45 23 ta; > #X connect 0 0 5 0; > #X connect 1 0 4 1; > #X connect 2 0 0 0; > #X connect 3 0 2 0; > #X connect 3 1 1 0; > #X connect 4 0 7 0; > #X connect 5 0 4 0; > #X connect 8 0 3 0; > #X restore 1 240 pd add; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 mi mi2 mi 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 mi mi3 mi 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 mi mi4 mi 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 di di1 di 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 di di2 di 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 di di3 di 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 di di4 di 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ka ka1 ka 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ka ka2 ka 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ka ka3 ka 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ka ka4 ka 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ta ta1 ta 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ta ta2 ta 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ta ta3 ta 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ta ta4 ta 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #N canvas -8 -8 1366 686 interface 0; > #X msg 13 204 ta; > #X msg 20 161 ka; > #X msg 33 119 di; > #X msg 49 77 mi; > #X msg 82 37 taka; > #X msg 128 36 tadi; > #X msg 173 35 tami; > #X msg 264 36 kami; > #X msg 308 37 dimi; > #X msg 218 36 kadi; > #X msg 352 47 takadi; > #X msg 357 92 takami; > #X msg 363 137 tadimi; > #X msg 371 181 kadimi; > #X msg 375 227 takadimi; > #X obj 13 183 r ta; > #X obj 20 140 r ka; > #X obj 33 98 r di; > #X obj 49 55 r mi; > #X obj 82 15 r taka; > #X obj 128 15 r tadi; > #X obj 173 14 r tami; > #X obj 218 14 r kadi; > #X obj 264 13 r kami; > #X obj 308 13 r dimi; > #X obj 352 24 r takadi; > #X obj 357 69 r takami; > #X obj 363 113 r tadimi; > #X obj 371 158 r kadimi; > #X obj 375 203 r takadimi; > #X obj 186 310 outlet; > #X obj 14 232 r chut; > #X msg 14 255 chut; > #X connect 0 0 30 0; > #X connect 1 0 30 0; > #X connect 2 0 30 0; > #X connect 3 0 30 0; > #X connect 4 0 30 0; > #X connect 5 0 30 0; > #X connect 6 0 30 0; > #X connect 7 0 30 0; > #X connect 8 0 30 0; > #X connect 9 0 30 0; > #X connect 10 0 30 0; > #X connect 11 0 30 0; > #X connect 12 0 30 0; > #X connect 13 0 30 0; > #X connect 14 0 30 0; > #X connect 15 0 0 0; > #X connect 16 0 1 0; > #X connect 17 0 2 0; > #X connect 18 0 3 0; > #X connect 19 0 4 0; > #X connect 20 0 5 0; > #X connect 21 0 6 0; > #X connect 22 0 9 0; > #X connect 23 0 7 0; > #X connect 24 0 8 0; > #X connect 25 0 10 0; > #X connect 26 0 11 0; > #X connect 27 0 12 0; > #X connect 28 0 13 0; > #X connect 29 0 14 0; > #X connect 31 0 32 0; > #X connect 32 0 30 0; > #X restore 245 209 pd interface; > #X obj 245 239 s rythme; > #X obj 16 10 bng 50 250 50 0 generate empty gen 17 22 0 10 -262144 > -1 -1; > #X obj 166 6 bng 50 250 50 0 clear empty clear 14 22 0 10 -262144 -1 > -1; > #X obj 290 8 bng 15 250 50 0 ta empty ta 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; > #X obj 290 27 bng 15 250 50 0 ka empty ka 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; > #X obj 290 44 bng 15 250 50 0 di empty di 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; > #X obj 290 62 bng 15 250 50 0 mi empty mi 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 mi mi1 mi 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X text 68 4 randomly move canvas with svg imagesto build a 4/4 mesure > , f 15; > #X text 327 203 receive bang from ta/ka/di/mi bang and send rythme > message to list_gen subpatch, f 25; > #X text 321 -2 supposed to add or delete lines in rythme_list text > object (work on Pc but not on Droidparty (see list_gen subpatch embed > in the instruction subpatch inside gen subpatch, f 26; > #X connect 18 0 19 0; > > -- http://mccormick.cx/

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William Brent's [convolve~ ] dekenized
by Roman Haefeli 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Hey For those interested: I took the liberty to package William Brent's [convolve~ ] external and make it available through Deken. [convolve~ ] does real-time partitioned convolution where the partition size and thus the resulting delay can be set. http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html Roman P.S.: Didn't have the chance to test on macOS. I'm happy about reports.

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[PD-announce] vstplugin~ 0.1-alpha released
by Christof Ressi 17 Jan '19

17 Jan '19

Dear list, I'm happy to announce the first alpha release of [vstplugin~], an external to - you guessed it - load VST plugins in Pd. features: * cross platform (Windows, MacOS and Linux) * load any kind of VST plugin (audio effect, MIDI effect, soft synth etc.) * automate plugin programmatically with Pd messages * use either the native VST GUI (WIN32, Cocoa, X11) or a generic Pd editor * preset management: read/write standard .fxp and .fxb files or set/get the plugin state as a Pd lists to build your own preset management. * choose between single and double precision (if the plugin supports it) * MIDI input/output * basic sequencing support (for arpeggiators, sequencers etc.) NOTE: currently only VST2.x plugins are supported but VST3 support will come soon! see vstplugin~-help.pd for detailed instructions. the external is already available on Deken. here's the source code: https://git.iem.at/ressi/vstplugin please report any issues, questions or feature requests to https://git.iem.at/ressi/vstplugin/issues NOTE: on MacOS, the plugin GUI defaults to the generic Pd editor, use "-gui" to force the native VST GUI. if you want to know why, check out the README. *** for all the Cocoa devs lurking, please have a look at: https://git.iem.at/ressi/vstplugin/issues/4 - I need your advice :-) *** have fun! Christof PS: check out the wonderful IEM plugin suite (https://plugins.iem.at/) - a set of crossplatform and open source Ambisonics VST plugins developed at the IEM. _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Pd 0.49 64b windows processing question (+ pd~)
by João Pais 06 Jan '19

06 Jan '19

Hello list, I just noticed that pd 0.49 comes packed with 64b. I was interested to ask what are currently the biggest advantages. I imagine that lots of added memory capacity; but for example, is it still limited to only one processor? I also notice that pd~ is in windows already for a while, I think I'll test it soon for the next version of my porting of Henke's granulator. I would like to know: is it guaranteed that parallel processes will run in different processors, or a bit of a luck game managed by the operating system? Best, Joao

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Re: [PD] Pd vanilla font size
by Dan Wilcox 06 Jan '19

06 Jan '19

The GUI tries to find the font size that fits a set of predefined box sizes. The one computer might have some system settings that make this process work differently then the others and this is probably out of Pd's control. You can check a couple of things: 1. turn on log level 4 and verify the font and font weight that are being used, the print looks like "Using font: DejaVu Sans Mono normal" 2. stop Pd, edit tcl/pd-gui.tcl on two machines and uncomment the font metrics prints, then start Pd and check the log to verify the metrics are similar or vastly different: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/tcl/pd-gui.tcl#L540 <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/tcl/pd-gui.tcl#L540> As discussed in work on the font sizing for Pd 0.48, the way the system works there is no real *guarantee* the sizing and positioning can be pixel *perfect* between platforms. I think we're pretty close using the metrics from Pd-extended but systems and system settings change... > On Nov 28, 2018, at 9:47 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 19:31:46 +0100 > From: João Pais <jmmmpais(a)gmail.com <mailto:jmmmpais@gmail.com>> > To: PD-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: [PD] Pd vanilla font size > Message-ID: <op.zs7ce8cr3gx0ss(a)thinkcentre.fritz.box <mailto:op.zs7ce8cr3gx0ss@thinkcentre.fritz.box>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > Hello list, > > a small question about font size: in one of my computers the font in the > patch is bigger than in the others. That happens in the same patch with > the same settings. Is this behavior known? > Pd vanilla (it happens with any version I install), windows 10. > > Best, > > jmmmp -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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NDI for Gem
by Csaba Láng 23 Dec '18

23 Dec '18

Dear Gem Lovers, recently I moved to NDI protocol on many live graphic softwares. The question is if can someone create an NDI object for Gem to send the video out through ethernet too? No limitation of resolution, no adapters needed, just connect your ethernet cable and let it go through LAN. What do you think? Could be useful. Best, Popesz

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German translation of Pd
by Peter P. 13 Dec '18

13 Dec '18

Hi list, looking at a german translation of Pd right now I am wondering if it makes sense to translate technical terms such as object, message, into their german-dictionary-counterparts. I find it counter-intuitive to be using, like most others, the english words object and messag in german but having these a bit awkward translations in the pulldown menus. Does anyone else have an oppinion on this? Thanks! Peter

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