Pd-list November 2018

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pd crashing with patches saved on a 2-monitor setup (plus workaround)
by Michael Straeubig 18 Nov '18

18 Nov '18

Hi, I thought this might be helpful if someone runs into similar problems. I have a number a small patches I made in August 2014 with the pd version at that time. Now I tried to open those patches on my current setup (Mac OS 10.14.1 Mojave, pd 0.49-1.64 bit). Most of those patches crashed on startup. Same result with the 32bit version and with pd 0.48-1 as well. Pd 0.47 and earlier do not run on Mojave, so I couldn't test. I was sure these patches worked in the past... This is the crash log. Application Specific Information: *** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInternalInconsistencyException', reason: 'Invalid parameter not satisfying: CGRectContainsRect(CGRectMake((CGFloat)INT_MIN, (CGFloat)INT_MIN, (CGFloat)INT_MAX - (CGFloat)INT_MIN, (CGFloat)INT_MAX - (CGFloat)INT_MIN), frame)' abort() called terminating with uncaught exception of type NSException The first line of one of the offending patches: #N canvas 681 -998 1010 411 10; The negative value piqued my interest. It comes from a setup with two monitors where monitor 2 is on top (north) of monitor 1. Whenever a patch is saved while on monitor 2, this value is negative and newer pd's crash opening the patch next time. More experimentation: creating a new patch and saving while it is on monitor 2 produces the same result. Workaround: opening the patch with an editor and changing the value to a positive number lets pd open the patch normally. Best, M

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Gem feedback effect
by Csaba Láng 18 Nov '18

18 Nov '18

Dear List, I am looking for a solution to keep the pixels I already have rendered in Gem, but when I rotate or offset it, the frames before stay and the new frame is added to the old frame. Can you give me a hint? I tried to understand pix_buffer but a bit hard to get it working with the write and read couple. Best, Popesz

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keying in Gem
by Csaba Láng 17 Nov '18

17 Nov '18

Dear list, is there any object in Gem which allows one to key out any color on the fly? Thinks it is quite obvious, sorry for the noob question if so. Best, Popesz

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Faustgen~, 2 problems clicking object to open dsp files
by Nakul Tiruviluamala 16 Nov '18

16 Nov '18

Hey guys, I am having 2 problems getting Faustgen~ to open a text file when clicking. My first problem involves getting faustgen~ to recognize my preferred text editor. Despite changing the file associations on my machine to use Atom to open dsp files, clicking the object results in TextEdit opening the dsp files. My second problem is that the clicking functionality to open the text editor only works when the dsp script is in the default directory. /Users/<user>/Documents/PD/externals/faustgen~/examples folder, but it doesn't work when the script is in another directory. Am I missing something obvious on how tor rectify the situations? Thanks, Nakul

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Free/Open Bounties
by Julian Brooks 14 Nov '18

14 Nov '18

Hi all, Can I ask our community what's the general take on bounties? I've discussed this informally with a couple of people on here (not on-list) and it's a polarising topic. For me, free/open is doomed unless we accept that current/traditional methods of practise serve as a form of serfdom - or require a hefty dose of institutional/employer support (& often community participation - which is great obvs.). It's not sustainable for free software to carry on reliant on free labour (IMO). I've always liked something that Michel Bauwens (p2p foundation) once said (roughly paraphrased), that copyleft can only be implemented once the revolution is complete, and until then we require to get paid (somewhere along the line). There are enough crappy things out there that are purely extractive, without replicating such political/economic hardships within my own favoured idealised/idealistic communities. This though, isn't to say I don't get the argument that it's a dangerous line to cross, with projects becoming solely an economic arms race, highly centralised, with reimagined methodologies and rules for participation. It's a tricky one. All input and insight appreciated... Best to all, Julian

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Re: [PD] No current Gem for OS X?
by Dan Wilcox 13 Nov '18

13 Nov '18

(I don't actually use GEM, but have done a bit of work in this area.) To clarify for the 100th time about the current state of GEM on macOS: Generally, GEM works FINE when compiled for both 32bit AND 64bit macOS. It will continue to do so until OpenGL support is completely removed. Hopefully by then it will have been transitioned to something like Vulkan. What does NOT work on 64bit macOS, are the video objects for input & output, aka [pix_film], etc. This is because the current GEM codebase relies on the Quicktime framework which is quite old now and was deprecated many many years ago. QT is 32 bit ONLY, so compiling GEM for 64bit means those objects may load but simply don't do anything. The fix for this is to implement new backends using Apple's preferred framework for 64 bit, AVFoundation. If you're talking about bounties, then that is the task at hand. Just because there may not be a 64bit build on deken, doesn't mean there is *no* 64 bit support. (I've not checked.) > On Nov 13, 2018, at 12:52 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Jean-Marie Adrien <jm.adrien.mnt(a)gmail.com <mailto:jm.adrien.mnt@gmail.com>> > To: pd-list <Pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] No current Gem for OS X? > Message-ID: <73832915-4622-4D8A-B849-4048EB69B34C(a)gmail.com <mailto:73832915-4622-4D8A-B849-4048EB69B34C@gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > yes i checked and apple said that mojave would be the VERY LAST Os running 32 bits apps. > Nxt Os will come in fall 2019, means we have ONE YEAR either to throw away our macs or get a 64 bits update of GEM : > am i correct ? -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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No current Gem for OS X?
by Peter P. 13 Nov '18

13 Nov '18

Hi, what is the current status of Gem for OS X, especially with Pd-0.49-1 64 bit? It seems that Gem can't be installed via Deken. What about http://puredata.info/downloads/gem/releases/0.93.3 could one of these binaries work? thank you for your hints! P

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Sensel Morph External
by pat pagano 12 Nov '18

12 Nov '18

hello i am hoping that someone might have an external for the new Sensel Morph? I just gotone and it seems to be pretty responsive i found this http://roaldbaudoux.org/nouvelles/112-max-msp-jitter/100-sensel-morph-max-e… and it works very well and i am wondering if someone could either give me a hand getting it working or might be able to help me compile or get it playing nice with Pure Data here is the main page for it https://sensel.com/pages/morph it has really expressive Velocity and apparently is MPE which all the kids are going crazy for nowadays :-) cheers~ -- *Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A* Interactive Media & Education Audio Projection & Performance Design *Columbia, Maryland USA* *http://shreeswifty.github.io <http://shreeswifty.github.io>* *(352)226-2016*

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Thank you for undo!
by Dan Wilcox 11 Nov '18

11 Nov '18

I'm in the middle of a mid-sized project using Pure Data and I just wanted to say thank you to all involved with writing the new undo system and integrating it into Pd vanilla. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] VCV & Pd: Looking for a Champion
by Dan Wilcox 10 Nov '18

10 Nov '18

Didn't he answer his own question.... it's open source, after all. Sounds like "hey, can someone do this for me so people will stop asking for it?" :) > On Nov 8, 2018, at 9:06 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>> > To: shreeswifty(a)gmail.com <mailto:shreeswifty@gmail.com> > Cc: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] VCV & Pd: Looking for a Champion > Message-ID: > <CAEAsFmipZaaEaksEs7QVDmMj68QsrW8-MnvF2vx7auavsaj1nQ(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAEAsFmipZaaEaksEs7QVDmMj68QsrW8-MnvF2vx7auavsaj1nQ@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Em qui, 8 de nov de 2018 às 00:40, pat pagano <shreeswifty(a)gmail.com <mailto:shreeswifty@gmail.com>> > escreveu: > >> Hello >> >> I am a long time pd user and recently on the pd group Andrew Belt, main >> developer of VCV Rack inquired about a VCV pd module. >> > > For the record, here's Andrew Belt's full post on the Pure Data Facebook > Group: > > "Hi, I'm the developer of VCV Rack, a software modular synthesizer based on > the Eurorack standard. A few people have proposed a Rack module that can > load .pd files using libpd. The API appears to be very clean and > straightforward at first glance, and embedding libraries with block audio > processing is very common with Rack plugins. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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