Pd-list July 2017

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test 4
by Miller Puckette 25 Jul '17

25 Jul '17

Ok, test 4 is up... at this point I'm hoping it's in good enough shape that I can make it the release - if there are show-stopping bugs I'll try to fix them, but any more "enhancements" should now wait for 0.49 :) Miller

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Re: [PD] Macbook Air Errors with 0.48 Test 1
by Dan Wilcox 25 Jul '17

25 Jul '17

The error indicates the pd core has crashed or is not running. Sometimes this also happens if the pd proves has hung in the background. Open Activity Monitor and make sure there is no "pd" processing running, if so then kill it. As a test, try running the pd core from the command line in Terminal: /Applications/Pd-VERSION.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd You can at least see some info. You can also run it with the -verbose flag to see even more info. > On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:21 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Subject: Re: [PD] Macbook Air Errors with 0.48 Test 1 > Date: July 18, 2017 at 10:16:13 PM GMT+2 > To: Miller Puckette <msp(a)ucsd.edu <mailto:msp@ucsd.edu>> > Cc: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > > > sierra indicates > > 10.12 > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Sierra <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Sierra> > > >> On 18 Jul 2017, at 21:55, Miller Puckette <msp(a)ucsd.edu <mailto:msp@ucsd.edu>> wrote: >> >> Really 10.2.5? Not 10.5? >> >> I've tested on 10.6. I ues I'd better try an earlier one :) >> >> M >> >> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 02:39:06PM -0400, me.grimm wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> So I have a student with a Macbook Air. Pd 0.47.1 that she downloaded hangs >>> and quits as detailed here: >>> https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-12/117154.html <https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-12/117154.html> >>> >>> then miller said he maybe fixed? >>> https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-12/117157.html <https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-12/117157.html> >>> >>> So I just tried the version (recent test) i recently compiled and that >>> opens (sort of) but I get now Pd window. I did get error: >>> >>> Not connected to 'pd' process >>> Not connected to 'pd' process >>> while executing >>> "error "Not connected to 'pd' process"" >>> (procedure "pdsend" line 6) >>> invoked from within >>> "pdsend "pd audio-properties"" >>> (procedure "::tk::mac::ShowPreferences" line 3) >>> invoked from within >>> "::tk::mac::ShowPreferences" >>> >>> shes on macbook air 10.2.5 (sierra) 13" early 2015 >>> >>> I know there has been trouble running Pd on Macbook Airs in the past and >>> would like to nail whats wrong. let me know what to do to test while I have >>> access to this machine for the next couple weeks. >>> >>> thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ____________________ >>> m.e.grimm, m.f.a, ed.m. >>> syracuse u., tc3 >>> megrimm.net <http://megrimm.net/> >>> ____________________ >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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... and ... test5 not out
by Miller Puckette 24 Jul '17

24 Jul '17

I decided to try to fold in Dan Wilcox's embedded Deja Vu font for Mac... now available as test 5. Should only affect Mac users, and should fix it so that the font is more legible. (I can't tell the difference myself...) cheers Miller

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Re: [PD] test5, problem with special characters in patches' filenames
by Dan Wilcox 24 Jul '17

24 Jul '17

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Dario Sanfilippo <sanfilippo.dario(a)gmail.com <mailto:sanfilippo.dario@gmail.com>> > Subject: [PD] test5, problem with special characters in patches' filenames > Date: July 24, 2017 at 10:10:58 AM GMT+2 > To: pd-list <pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:pd-list@iem.at>> > > > There seems to be a problem with special characters in filenames, namely round parentheses (I haven't tested the other ones). Sigh. The bug is only on macOS as it's with the default command which requires single quoted strings (what a pain). Looks like parens need to be escaped. I fixed one major bug which reveals a slightly more minor one. Fix should be relatively simple... -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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test5, problem with special characters in patches' filenames
by Dario Sanfilippo 24 Jul '17

24 Jul '17

There seems to be a problem with special characters in filenames, namely round parentheses (I haven't tested the other ones). I'm on OSX 10.11.6 and, if PD is closed and I open the attached patch, I get the following error (below) on the PD window. If PD is open and I drag the on to the PD icon I get the same kind of error as an Application Error pop-up window. This patch will still work after I get the errors but I have a large patch containing parentheses in the filename and things are different: If PD is closed and I right-click on the file and ask to open with PD, I get the error in the PD window but the patch works; if PD is open and I drag the file on it, I get the pop-up error and no operations can be performed on the patch. I.e., I can't change any of the GUI with the mouse or even close the patch pressing cmd + w. I can still close it by clicking on the "close" button in the window. Cheers, Dario (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: 2017-07-24 09:56:45.727 defaults[2085:48740] Could not parse: /Users/dariosanfilippo1/Dropbox/PureData patches/abstractions/delta(t)~.pd. Try single-quoting it. while executing "exec /bin/sh -rc "defaults write $adomain $akey -array-add $escaped"" (procedure "write_config" line 13) invoked from within "write_config $::recentfiles_list $::pd_guiprefs::domain $::recentfiles_key $::recentfiles_is_array" (procedure "::pd_guiprefs::write_recentfiles" line 2) invoked from within "::pd_guiprefs::write_recentfiles " (procedure "::pd_menus::update_openrecent_menu_aqua" line 13) invoked from within "::pd_menus::update_openrecent_menu_aqua .openrecent $write" (procedure "::pd_menus::update_recentfiles_menu" line 4) invoked from within "::pd_menus::update_recentfiles_menu" (procedure "::pd_guiprefs::update_recentfiles" line 10) invoked from within "::pd_guiprefs::update_recentfiles $filename" (procedure "open_file" line 14) invoked from within "open_file $filename" (procedure "open_filestoopen" line 3) invoked from within "open_filestoopen" (procedure "pdtk_pd_startup" line 24) invoked from within "pdtk_pd_startup 0 48 0 {test5} {} {} {DejaVu Sans Mono} normal" ("uplevel" body line 15) invoked from within "uplevel #0 $docmds"

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Re: [PD] problem with translation : WAS Re: testing some 0.48.0 GUI updates
by Dan Wilcox 24 Jul '17

24 Jul '17

> On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Le 17/07/2017 à 12:13, Dan Wilcox a écrit : > [...] >> * The translation build system has been updated as it wasn't automatically refreshing the translation files. For translators, there should be new strings to add and other to update (see po/README.txt for details). For users, the menu titles should now be translated for those languages which do so. > > I'm updating the french translation file, but I've got a problem with the line : > > msgid "file edit put find media window help" > > if I translate this line, the pg GUI will not start. That line should be removed as it's been replaced by each menu item as a separate string. The reason why Pd can't start is that the strings in that list are used to call procedures ala pd_start_file, pd_start_edit, etc. Changing them means tcl errors early in the startup and nothing seems to happen. I figured this out the hard way too :) > should I just ignore this line? Yes. I will check the Tcl to make sure it shouldn't appear in the translations. That might be an artifact to my earlier experiments. > What is the best process to share this file : forking pd on sourforce git, changing the file and doing a push request? Whichever works best for Miller, really. We've been working successfully by doing small feature Pos via Github as well. Since it's likely a small update, you could generate a patch and send to pd-list as well. I'm finding GitHub easiest for my workflow, but use whatever works for you :) -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Open Recent... doesn't look like a Pd-file
by Dan Wilcox 23 Jul '17

23 Jul '17

Yeah, I thought of this last week while debugging but I forgot about it. Fixed with https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/135 <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/135> Can y'all give it a try? Also, your current recent files stored in the gui defaults might be corrupted with the older bug that didn't quote things correctly. You can flush them either with the Clear Files menu entry or from the command line on macOS: defaults write org.puredata.pd.pd-gui write NSRecentDocuments "" You can then see what's in there with: defaults read org.puredata.pd.pd-gui I added the info about using defaults to the mac/README.txt a few days ago. > On Jul 23, 2017, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: "Christof Ressi" <christof.ressi(a)gmx.at <mailto:christof.ressi@gmx.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Open Recent... doesn't look like a Pd-file > Date: July 23, 2017 at 10:29:39 AM GMT+2 > To: "me.grimm" <megrimm(a)gmail.com <mailto:megrimm@gmail.com>> > Cc: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > > > Hi, I always got this error when the path of the patch has changed and Pd can't find the file. The error message is rather misleading, though. > >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. Juli 2017 um 04:02 Uhr >> Von: "me.grimm" <megrimm(a)gmail.com <mailto:megrimm@gmail.com>> >> An: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> >> Betreff: [PD] Open Recent... doesn't look like a Pd-file >> >> anyone else getting this. when i go to File -> Open Recent -> foo.pd I get >> >> Ignoring 'foo.pd': doesn't look like a Pd-file >> >> ? >> >> im on pd 0.48-0-test3 OSX 10.12.5 >> >> m -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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PD 0.48-0 test2 segfaults with Jack and rt on Linux
by Max 23 Jul '17

23 Jul '17

I can only run pd when configured with Jack support, if I switch the non real time option ./pd -nrt otherwhise it ./pd Segmentation fault pd-0.48-0test2/bin/pd [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1". [New Thread 0x7ffff7f32700 (LWP 16148)] [New Thread 0x7ffff7eb1700 (LWP 16150)] Thread 3 "pd" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 0x7ffff7eb1700 (LWP 16150)] 0x00007ffff78b8f96 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjack.so.0 (IOhannes: that's on Linux)

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verbose?
by Alexandre Torres Porres 23 Jul '17

23 Jul '17

Hi, when translating Pd to brazilian portuguese, I cam across a few things I don't really know what they do and stuff, and that I never really bothered. For instance, what is the 'verbose' check box in "Path" for? Thanks

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translating pd patch text comments into other languages
by Federico Camara Halac 23 Jul '17

23 Jul '17

Hi Everyone, I made these scripts to start translating the pd helfiles and docfiles. Maybe some of you are interested? One way of using this is: 1. Generate the ".po" template ($ ./template doc/5.reference "name lastname" email Language Lang-id) 2. Upload it directly to https://translate.google.com/toolkit 3. Generate an automatic machine translation to the target language of your choosing 4. Download and integrate the translation back to pd. ($ ./translate doc/5.reference) There are other free translating software out there. I suggested google because it allows multiple users to share a workbench, and the machine translation is pretty decent in most cases, but it needs revising. I got as far as spanglish... The code is mostly on bash shell (using sed, grep...) , so i guess it also works in linux, and probably on windows with cygwin or mingw. Any help/improvement/comment is more than appreciated!! https://fdch.github.io/puradata/ Cheers, fede PS: I couldn't find anything in the list about non-gui translation, only external manuals and stuff. Any pointers here will also help!

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