Pd-list July 2017

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Re: [PD] Open Recent... doesn't look like a Pd-file
by Dan Wilcox 23 Jul '17

23 Jul '17

(responding in thread) I believe this is fixed in a commit which is not in a test build yet. Is the recent file list being saved at all or? I not only 1 file is being saved, you're seeing the bug I fixed. https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/19030496003eb68fe865c7ccd8d99… <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/19030496003eb68fe865c7ccd8d99…> > On Jul 23, 2017, at 5:33 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: "me.grimm" <megrimm(a)gmail.com <mailto:megrimm@gmail.com>> > Subject: [PD] Open Recent... doesn't look like a Pd-file > Date: July 23, 2017 at 4:02:45 AM GMT+2 > To: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > > > anyone else getting this. when i go to File -> Open Recent -> foo.pd I get > > Ignoring 'foo.pd': doesn't look like a Pd-file > > ? > > im on pd 0.48-0-test3 OSX 10.12.5 > > m -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 148, Issue 122
by Dan Wilcox 23 Jul '17

23 Jul '17

Yes, I believe this is fixed in a commit which is not in a test build yet. > On Jul 23, 2017, at 5:33 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: "me.grimm" <megrimm(a)gmail.com <mailto:megrimm@gmail.com>> > Subject: [PD] Open Recent... doesn't look like a Pd-file > Date: July 23, 2017 at 4:02:45 AM GMT+2 > To: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > > > anyone else getting this. when i go to File -> Open Recent -> foo.pd I get > > Ignoring 'foo.pd': doesn't look like a Pd-file > > ? > > im on pd 0.48-0-test3 OSX 10.12.5 > > m -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Pd 0.48.0test1, Pd crashes when opening patch second time
by rolfm＠dds.nl 23 Jul '17

23 Jul '17

update: the problem is not persistent. i suspect it was connected with a Microsoft update gone wrong. rolf

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Open Recent... doesn't look like a Pd-file
by me.grimm 23 Jul '17

23 Jul '17

anyone else getting this. when i go to File -> Open Recent -> foo.pd I get Ignoring 'foo.pd': doesn't look like a Pd-file ? im on pd 0.48-0-test3 OSX 10.12.5 m

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Re: [PD] 048 font metrics (was: pd 0.48-0test1 released)
by Dan Wilcox 23 Jul '17

23 Jul '17

> On Jul 22, 2017, at 7:46 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > 2017-07-21 22:10 GMT-03:00 Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27(a)hotmail.com <mailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com>>: > pdx metrics are not yet hardcoded, there must be a good argument for that to became meaningful. > > what do you mean? > > Support it by just testing and giving opinions. But modify that tcl please. > > My opinion is that things should look the same, out of the box, on vanilla, pd extended, and purr data. In the verge of bringing cyclone to purr data, I hope the same documentation works in both, cause doing two of them would be insane. > > Now, is there any need for further testing? Yes. > Hasn't this been tested already? Only you and Lucas have tested it. Sending emails back and forth to each other agreeing on a change doesn't;t magically make it happen. I didn't add the metrics changes to the PR because the PR is about bringing the font in first (in my mind). The metrics can be in a different branch. If I put all of them together, it makes it much harder to be able to decide "we want the font changes, but not the metrics changes yet". As I've mentioned before, many times now, I personally do not have all the knowledge to know if the tweak to the tcl from extended, in fact, is only thing that's needed. That's not to say the extended stuff CANT be brought in, just that, in software that lots of people rely on, it pays to be conservative in making changes like this. It may work for *your* help patches but may break tons of *other* patches for other people. I dunno, which is why I am cautious. We need feedback from others and the "powers that be." -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.48-0test1 released
by Dan Wilcox 22 Jul '17

22 Jul '17

I've added a macOS 32bit 0.48.0-test1 build using the normal (old, included) Tk 8.4 wish: http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ <http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/> >> On Jul 15, 2017, at 11:02 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> wrote: >> >> I notice it looks quite differently in Mac OS, like there is a new font, but it still seems it is Monaco. But the font size is smaller and the boxes are thinner and wider. A subpatch will also have an extra space to the right after the text/name of the subpatch. > > You are seeing the retina rendering with a newer Tk, which still has those font issues as the rendered box size does not quite fit the font. I haven't been able to track down a fix yet. > > It's weird, though, as this shouldn't be the default yet and Pd should still be using 8.4 which is pixelated on retina screens but has correct object sizing. > > Miller, how did you build the mac distribution app? -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] PD 0.48-0 test3 segfaults with Jack and rt on Linux
by Dan Wilcox 21 Jul '17

21 Jul '17

> On Jul 21, 2017, at 5:43 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Max <abonnements(a)revolwear.com <mailto:abonnements@revolwear.com>> > Subject: Re: [PD] PD 0.48-0 test3 segfaults with Jack and rt on Linux > Date: July 21, 2017 at 4:49:50 PM GMT+2 > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > > > I want to go back. Package management seems like an awesome idea until this. Just give me a download including all the libraries statically linked and I will happily download a few MB more.... > /rant end./ In the meantime, can't you install the latest stable release in the package manager? Thanks for helping test the new version at any rate. I also wonder if this is a "linking jack2 when we want jack1" issue. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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0.48 W32 -listdev
by Lucas Cordiviola 21 Jul '17

21 Jul '17

Hi Miller, On a normal Pd startup (mmio) audio devices are not listed (not even in the GUI), or wrong chars appear. OTOH starting with -asio -listdev audio devices show correct names. Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

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expr update for 0.48
by Alexandre Torres Porres 21 Jul '17

21 Jul '17

Howdy Shahrokh, Miller and pd-list, the release notes of 0.48 mention this: "The expr family (expr, expr~, fexpr~) got an update from Shahrokh Yadegari. I'm not sure when this first came about, but expr now can access "variable" objects as variables inside expressions. Expressions using "if" skip evaluating the argument that isn't used." well, the expr family can access variable objects since version 0.4 (which I do not know when got into Pd). As from version 0.5 (which made into Pd by 0.47, I think), you could also give it a value by using the new "=" syntax. Like: [expr x = 3] changes the value of a [v x] object. Now we have version 0.55 up, and I do not know what's new about variables, maybe nothing? So we could change the notes to what's asctually new. Here's a list Shahrokh sent me though, since I was testing and reporting a few bugs. 2017-07-14 21:08 GMT-03:00 Shahrokh Yadegari <sdy(a)ucsd.edu>: > > - Expr Version 0.55 > > - The arrays now redraw after a store into one of their members > > - The "if()" function is reworked to only evaluate either the left > or the right arg depending on the truth value of the condition. > > However, if the condition is a vector, both the left and the > right are evaluated regardless. > > - The maximum number of inlet and outlets (MAX_VARS) is now set at > 100 > > - The bug of using store "=" in functions with multiple arguments, > which caused an error during execution, is fixed. > So, Shahrokh, I get all of this but the "bug of using store "=" in functions with multiple arguments", I don't think I reported that one, would you care to elaborate on it? Miller, we seem to still have an issue creating [expr] with atanh() ,asinh() and acosh() on windows - such as in [expr atanh($f1)]. Are you working on it for the final release of Pd 0.48? Thanks

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Re: [PD] Macbook Air Errors with 0.48 Test 1
by Dan Wilcox 21 Jul '17

21 Jul '17

This have never been an issue with OS X in the past so I *do not* think there is suddenly a major problem based on feedback from running Pd on *one machine*. I suggest another tool or manual updates to the host file is the cause. It's also better to use localhost as it can resolve in both IPv4 and IPv6 instead of 127.0.0.1 which is IPv4 only. Also, by "firewall" I mean the built in Firewall utility in the OS, not the low-level hosts files or DNS settings. > On Jul 21, 2017, at 5:43 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Miller Puckette <msp(a)ucsd.edu <mailto:msp@ucsd.edu>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Macbook Air Errors with 0.48 Test 1 > Date: July 21, 2017 at 5:43:27 PM GMT+2 > To: "me.grimm" <megrimm(a)gmail.com <mailto:megrimm@gmail.com>> > Cc: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > > > Here's an idea: get into the tcl code (pd/tcl) and change all instances of > > localhost > > to > > 127.0.0.1 > > Perhaps this is more robust. > > cheers > Miller > > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:41:12AM -0400, me.grimm wrote: >>>> Is the firewall on ...? >> firewall is off >> >>>> ping localhost >> ping: cannot resolve localhost: Unknown host -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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