Pd-list July 2017

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Symbol box interface improvement suggestion
by Roman Haefeli 25 Jul '17

25 Jul '17

Hey all So often I see people getting confused with symbol boxes. Its current interface design is contrary to what most people are used to from other software. Every text entry that I can think of gives a visual cue to indicate keyboard input is expected. However, when you click symbol box, nothing happens, which is the confusing part and makes a lot of people think it's not working. Only when you start typing, it adds a temporary '...' suffix to the written input. My suggestion is to slightly modify its UI design, so that it immediately shows '...' when clicking it, not only after typing the first key. To describe the desired behavior more verbosely: [symbol \ <mouse-click> [... \ <press key 'f'> [f... \ <press some more keys 'o' 'o'> [foo... \ <press ENTER> [foo \ <- now content is output, disappearance of '...' indicates new value is set I strongly believe this small change would make Pd slightly less awkward to use for newcomers and for people using ready-made patches (a nd would give me a better feeling to suggest a solution with a plain Pd interface). Roman

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deken install path helper
by Dan Wilcox 25 Jul '17

25 Jul '17

FYI: I have a small PR which adds the deken install path to the Path dialog: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/140 <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/140> -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Vector Synthesis Library 0.1
by Derek Holzer 25 Jul '17

25 Jul '17

Hi Cyrille, I made a presentation of the entire library last weekend, there is a video for that here: https://www.facebook.com/macumbista/posts/791705604337470 I use a MOTU Ultralite with a Vectrex game console for my live performances. Please CC me any replies as I am not following the main Pd list except occasionally in the archives. Best! Derek cyrille henry wrote: > hello, > > do you have a demo video? > > what DC-coupled soundcard are you using? > > cheers > c > > p.s : this may interest you: > https://vimeo.com/162243925 -- derek holzer noise.art.technology http://macumbista.net

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Re: [PD] Icon Update?
by Dan Wilcox 25 Jul '17

25 Jul '17

> On Jul 21, 2017, at 11:47 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Dan, that looks very similar to what I posted on Pd-dev a few weeks back. > I agree with your mention of lacking discussion, because there was no reply to my mails either. > > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2017-07/021087.html <https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2017-07/021087.html> > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2017-07/021084.html <https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2017-07/021084.html> > > The fabulous SVG export plugin [1] from IOhannes not only saves you one step of conversion, it also had better results for me that actually looked like the Pd gui, not some abstract version of it like when using the PostScript output. Yeah, there were several things put out there but they got buried a bit and not everyone saw them which is why I'm bringing this up. > Your icon version looks a bit slimmer (Font and lines of the box) then what I got. I'm not sure why this is, it might be either because you are on Mac OS, or because you used the PostScript export. The font size of the patch is 16 to get the proportions right which is why the outline seems slimmer. > Your version also has not the typical shadow that Mac OS icons seem to have. This icon is meant for all platforms (some of which do not use shadows) and there is no hard requirement for mac icons to have a shadow. My proposal reflects the most basic/conservative update in keeping with the current vanilla icon. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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multi-threaded dsp extern?
by David Medine 25 Jul '17

25 Jul '17

Dear all, I am dusting off an unfinished project, so I may have asked this question already, but I've completely forgotten about it by now. I am trying to develop a Pd dsp extern that has a listen thread in it. I am streaming data from another application and copying it into a buffer in the listen thread. The tilde_perform function (the function housing the dsp loop) simply reads out of that buffer. The index of the read point in the buffer is updated in the listen (background) thread. There should never be a race condition because I only read once and write once. The data might be wrong, but there should always be something available to read. I have tried doing this with and without mutex locking (on the listen thread, the dsp function, and both) but it seems to crash no matter what. I have done this successfully with non-dsp externs, and if I don't do anything in the listen thread except sleep, there is no crash. Any clues as to how to make this work? Cheers, David

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[PD-announce] Vector Synthesis Library 0.1
by Derek Holzer via Pd-announce 25 Jul '17

25 Jul '17

RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT VECTOR SYNTHESIS LIBRARY 0.1 The Vector Synthesis library allows the creation and manipulation of 2D and 3D vector shapes, Lissajous figures, and scan processed image and video inputs using audio signals sent directly to oscilloscopes, hacked CRT monitors, Vectrex game consoles, ILDA laser displays, or oscilloscope emulation softwares using the Pure Data programming environment. Please check the README.md file for a full list of requirements, capabilities, and acknowledgements to the amazing people who have helped me along the way. https://github.com/macumbista/vectorsynthesis -- derek holzer noise.art.technology http://macumbista.net _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] 048-test5 > w32 strange chars
by rolfm＠dds.nl 25 Jul '17

25 Jul '17

for what it's worth: in W10 same as Lucas. on same machine VMware Windows XP: no strange characters. hope it helps rolf

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Re: [PD] 048-test5 > w32 strange chars
by Dan Wilcox 25 Jul '17

25 Jul '17

Windows doesn't really have an environment variable for setting the language. You can check the locale loading proc in pd-gui.tcl. I think renaming the po dir might work, but I'm not sure. This seems like a character encoding issue for sure, although I'm not sure what we changed that would have introduced it as, I believe, the translation files were included in the previous vanilla releases as well... > On Jul 25, 2017, at 7:34 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: oliver <oliver(a)klingt.org <mailto:oliver@klingt.org>> > Subject: Re: [PD] 048-test5 > w32 strange chars > Date: July 25, 2017 at 7:33:58 AM GMT+2 > To: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)mail.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@mail.iem.at>> > > > Lucas Cordiviola wrote: >> I just tried on a virtual machine running on Oracle's >> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads <https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads> >> >> I never tried on linux but surely it works on a machine with at least >> 4GB of ram. It might be boring setting up the windows vm. >> >> I"m getting the same "strange chars" as in a real machine, on the cmd >> prompt and in the input/output devices. >> > > can confirm this on > > Windows 7 (64bit), PD 0.48 test 5 > > > > btw: how do i explicitly set PD's language ? > can i just remove the "po" folder if i want english ? -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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MMIO audio device menu broken
by Christof Ressi 25 Jul '17

25 Jul '17

Hi, the dropdown menus in the MMIO section of audio setting is broken in Miller's pd-0.48.0test5 windows binaries. the dropdown menus for input and output devices is empty or has a single character. I attached a screenshot. Christof

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Pd 0.48.0test5 Help Browser Issue
by michael noble 25 Jul '17

25 Jul '17

Found an issue with the latest build, though it could be in earlier builds. When using the help browser, clicking on items in the right column results in errors: wrong # args: should be "::helpbrowser::dir_navigate dir count window x y" wrong # args: should be "::helpbrowser::dir_navigate dir count window x y" while executing "::helpbrowser::dir_navigate C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/bin/extra/sigmund~ 2 .helpbrowser.frame.root1 39 10" (command bound to event) Items open normally from the left column.

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