Pd-list April 2010

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Re: [PD] Free samples somewhere on the net?
by Ricardo Lameiro 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

I think than in the rjdj lib, or inside the rjdj's composer pack, is a e-piano patch. I kinda liked it. For sure you will use a lot less ram :) On 15 Apr 2010 13:46, "tim vets" <timvets(a)gmail.com> wrote: Speaking of samplebanks, an interesting approach in pd would be to do a good Rhodes modeling patch, rather than using a samplebank... For example, I was quite impressed when I heard the 'pianoteq' piano modeling instrument. It's not pd, nor is it free software, but I can't help but think something similar should be possible to make in a pd patch...no? 2010/4/15 martin brinkmann <mnb(a)martin-brinkmann.de> > > i often use sounds from the olpc project: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sound_samples > there are... _______________________________________________ Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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readsf~ error when reading .aiff
by Mathieu Bouchard 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

> "error: dsp: /Users/alexandreporres/Desktop/Esashi.aiff: Too many open > files" How do you get that ? Are you doing "open" a thousand times in a row before it says that ? Then it might mean that there's a "close" command missing somewhere... in some way. (Or not.) _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801

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Questions about midi-volume abstractions
by Raphael Raccuia 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

Hi list: I'm working on a big diffusion patch, so I made some volume and midi abstractions (I'll need a lot of midi controlled volumes). raf_volume.pd calls raf_BCF2000.pd (I have this midi controller, of course it can be used with every midi CC signals...). Arguments as following: start value, end value (scale), CC, channel. I'm using Pd-ext 0.42.5 on Ubuntu Studio. My questions: -I noticed a (kind of) bug: when I instantiate a [ctlin] object with one $ as argument (CC number), no problem, but when I add a second (channel: [ctlin $1 $2]), second outlet doesn't disappear, and if abstraction window is opened, pd becomes unstable. It crashes sometimes when I save the patch calling the abstraction, or saving abstraction itself (ctrl+s). No problem with numbers as arguments. -When I instantiate raf_volume.pd, I enter arguments in the object box (CC, channel), but I didn't find a way to change them after. I could use externals [number2\, but the patch will become really heavy, or display name and arguments in "graph on parent", but the object becomes to big... In the same idea, I wanted to keep the sliders position (init), but it doesn't seems to work in an abstraction... -If you have any suggestions about these abstractions, their performance etc, you're welcome... Thank's a lot best r #N canvas 654 168 489 581 10; #X obj 166 20 loadbang; #X obj 166 92 -; #X obj 166 116 / 127; #X obj 28 164 *; #X obj 166 44 t b b; #X obj 166 67 f \$2; #X obj 206 67 f \$1; #X obj 28 187 + \$1; #X obj 16 209 outlet; #X obj 120 283 outlet; #X obj 120 208 loadbang; #X obj 28 88 ctlin \$3 \$4; #X obj 120 258 \$3; #X obj 147 308 \$4; #X obj 147 333 outlet; #X obj 120 233 t b b; #X msg 80 207 bang; #X connect 0 0 4 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 3 1; #X connect 3 0 7 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 4 1 6 0; #X connect 5 0 1 0; #X connect 6 0 1 1; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 10 0 15 0; #X connect 11 0 3 0; #X connect 11 0 16 0; #X connect 12 0 9 0; #X connect 13 0 14 0; #X connect 15 0 12 0; #X connect 15 1 13 0; #X connect 16 0 15 0; #X coords 0 0 1 1 150 45 0; #N canvas 70 231 575 539 10; #X obj 100 104 cnv 40 55 128 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -1 -257985 0; #X obj 101 107 vsl 13 119 0 1 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -9 0 10 -1 -257985 -257985 0 1; #X obj 41 163 *~; #X obj 42 139 inlet~; #X obj 40 187 outlet~; #X obj 101 277 pack f 10; #X obj 116 21 env~; #X obj 116 46 - 97; #X obj 117 107 vu 12 120 empty empty -1 -8 0 6 -1 -257985 1 0; #X obj 100 233 cnv 15 55 15 empty \$0-preset1 CC:0 5 9 0 7 -1 -257985 0; #X obj 260 367 s \$0-preset1; #X msg 260 341 label CC:\$1; #X obj 101 -1 raf_BCF2000 0 1 \$1 \$2; #X obj 260 269 loadbang; #X obj 260 314 \$1; #X obj 100 249 cnv 15 55 15 empty \$0-preset2 CH:0 5 9 0 7 -1 -257985 0; #X obj 357 314 \$2; #X obj 357 367 s \$0-preset2; #X obj 57 -1 inlet; #X text 235 -4 entree commande midi cc; #X msg 357 341 label CH:\$1; #X obj 101 300 line; #X text 3 20 Contole externe; #X connect 1 0 5 0; #X connect 2 0 4 0; #X connect 2 0 6 0; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X connect 5 0 21 0; #X connect 6 0 7 0; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 11 0 10 0; #X connect 12 0 1 0; #X connect 13 0 14 0; #X connect 13 0 16 0; #X connect 14 0 11 0; #X connect 16 0 20 0; #X connect 18 0 1 0; #X connect 20 0 17 0; #X connect 21 0 2 1; #X coords 0 -1 1 1 55 168 2 100 100;

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Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
by colet.patrice＠free.fr 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

thanks, :) Selon Rory Walsh <rorywalsh(a)ear.ie>: > Sure and wood is ONLY for burning. I don't mean to be rude either but > if you think music only qualifies as music if people can dance to it > then that I think perhaps you should learn a little more about it. > Until then you can get your rocks off to some pd created music at the > rjdj site. All this music is done using pd vanilla. http://rjdj.me/ > There are hundreds of composition so you'll have to listen to ALL of > them before reporting they're not real compositions. Please keep in > mind that musical taste is subjective... > > Rory. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > >

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ANN: Upcoming L2Ork spring event and Midwest tour
by Ivica Ico Bukvic 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

Dear fellow FOSS/Pd/Linux audio enthusiasts, It is my pleasure to announce the upcoming April 17th (Saturday) spring L2Ork / DISIS event that will feature the debut of the Boys & Girls Club of Roanoke, VA satellite laptop orchestra, as well as several guest artists, including: Ron Coulter (SIUC, percussion, composition, computer music) Mark Engebretson (UNCG, composition, computer music, saxophone), and Matthew Burtner (UVA, composition, computer music, saxophone) The evening event will be split into: . 7pm children's showcase designed primarily with children and parents in mind, and . 8pm benefit concert of experimental music. Funds raised at this event will benefit the Boys & Girls Club of Roanoke, VA, a non-profit organization that offers critical afterschool programs for children. Apart from L2Ork numbers, the 8pm program will also offer compositions involving innovative creative technologies, including musical robots. The admission to both events is free. For more information, software goodies, audio and video preview please visit L2Ork's website at http://l2ork.music.vt.edu or find us on the Facebook event page at http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117918141555131 (event page http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=112324945463877) Additional media coverage can be found at: http://www.linuxjournal.com/magazine (issue #193) http://www.vt.edu/spotlight/achievement/2010-04-12-laptop/laptop-orchestra.… (Virginia Tech spotlight with audio and video footage) Following the April 17th performance, L2Ork is embarking on its maiden tour with performances at the College-Conservatory of Music in Cincinnati, OH (April 20th 7:30pm), Southern Illinois University Carbondale, IL (April 22nd 6pm), and IUPUI, Indiana as part of the Intermedia Festival (April 25th 2pm). So, if you happen to be in the area we'd love to see you there! Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy) Virginia Tech Dept. of Music - 0240 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) ico(a)vt.edu http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/

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keycode 92: dropped
by Alexandre Porres 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

hi, any special reason for this message? why can't I hit that key? cheers alex

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Re: [PD] Max Smoother Audio than Pd?
by Matteo Sisti Sette 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

Frank wrote: > It's not so much the tool, as it is the skills that makes music > sound good. That is true for really good tools. Needless to say that Pd is one of them. But there are a lot of tools out there with which it is not so much the skills as it is the tool that makes music sound good - meaning that a completely unskilled musician can make something that sounds "pretty good", and a skilled musician cannot make things sound much better (and usually won't use such tools). In those cases the music usually "sounds like the tool". Those are bad tools for making music, though they can be excellent tools for having fun. > If you use a [phasor~] as a sawtooth oscillator source, > you're "wrong" in both Max and Pd. Sorry may I ask why? Do you mean that using a sawtooth oscillator source is a wrong starting point for creating interesting music, or that [phasor~] is not the right object to use as a sawtooth oscillator?? In the latter case, what should you use instead?? (ohhh, I see maybe: it is because of aliasing isn't it? indeed I always wondered: how do you simulate a sawtooth oscillator and avoid aliasing [without a huge oversampling and filtering]?) -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistisette(a)gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com

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Free samples somewhere on the net?
by Pierre Massat 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

Hello everyone! I just got a brand new midi keyboard and i'm very excited! Anyway, i was wondering if anybody knows where i could find some good quality samples of electric keyboards (like the Rhodes), for free (yes, i m using Pd also because it is free and because i m not exactly a millionnaire, although i like it so much now that i don't think i'd use anything else if i were that rich. Anyways...). I have found this : http://www.hispasonic.com/noticias/dsk-music-presenta-hispasonic-sampled-se… which appears to be free, but i have no idea what these formats are, nor how i could use the samples in Pd. Do you know if i could convert any of these into a WAV format that i could use in Pd? Cheers! Pierre

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Re: [PD] Last days of submissions to ICMC's UnConference
by Alexandre Porres 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

"It turns out that NYC Resistor, of which I am a member, is hosting some ICMC workshops. I'd happily host some kind of informal Pd gathering there, whether its in addition to, or in place of the ICMC Unconference. .hc" Cool, Well, I'm sending tomorrow a proposal for some Pd gathering/hack session at the Unconference. Miller said he's game on it, so I'll mention my name, you, him, and maybe someone else that is interested and going there, just send me a note... (today!) Seems I'll be working on ICMC to attend it for free, I'll be helping a lot in the UnConference thing, guess I have a thing for working in conferences... cheers alex

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Visuals to audio synch.MIDI(0-127)
by Gintaras Lau. 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

Dear list, as far as I understand, the use of pd algorithms like "bonk", "fiddle" for any purpose is up to authors decision and technical intuition and perhaps study programs at IEM, workshops. I'm struggling with bachelor's writing about "synchronization" of audio and visuals in that way: Pd virtual device to analyse audio -> generative model to create moves of midi sliders (0-127) -> midi connection -> commercial software to manipulate visuals (in my case "Resolume") Precision of midi controlled visual software not matches the precision to that possible with pure data alone, but I'm not consider that here. I found [fiddle~] (this time it must be fiddle~) complex to use, because outputs requires to stabilize glitches and etc. But that is a part that I can control to some extent. Frequencies I get from music are usually grater than 127 and needs to apply math. Generative model I have tried to made is just accidental creative process (make mistakes and try to do best). Behaviour of slider (up or down to some amount) not always reveals the change of sound pitch, because of [/,*,+,_ ], [mod 127], [lmax,-min,-avg] and other relation between data and because of pitch change to different amounts and range 0 -127. Sometimes hi notes makes fader to go down (e.g. to control opacity of layer) and vise versa, sometimes surprisingly matches the musics pitch line. Bonk~ works fine by triggering [random 127], [probalizer], through [line] or without it and connection to music is synchronous. I also applied some automatic messaging to it [thresh $1 $2(, [mask $1 $2(, also input signal fade in (ms) after the bang hits it to 0, expanders, filters, bang handling, etc. An advantage of my work is that there is no need to prepare midi files for synchronization and always to be ready to meet any music or sound source anywhere. What I'm asking for is not a concrete solution (how to make fader go up if pitch goes up when sound source can be mixed music, solo instrument, etc.) but rather some general foughts that may rise from your technological background to help me summarize the wall I have just hit (or both). My country, town, professors, lecturers, teachers and friends has no experience or background related to pd, max/msp technologies for audiovisual purposes. List, forums, google is always my best teachers what is to some extent a lot, except that something must be done to change that situation too. Respectfully Gintaras

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