Pd-list March 2008

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Google Summer of Code application is in!
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 13 Mar '08

13 Mar '08

I just submitted it with 10 mentors, we should be able to add more mentors if we get accepted as an organization, so it is not too late to join. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GSoCOrganizationApp2008 I think the app is looking good, fingers crossed! .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2", by Mohja Kahf

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Couldn't creat [gemlist]. Also, how to destroy objects?
by Dudley Brooks 13 Mar '08

13 Mar '08

Pd-0.39.3-extended, MacBook Pro OSX 10.4 I downloaded /Gem/examples/advanced/19.pointer.pd and ...../20.double-gemhead_vs_repeat.pd, to learn how to create multiple instances of objects. They both have some subpatches that use [gemlist]. I got the error "gemlist ... couldn't create". Those two patches were not in 0.39.3-extended. Are they and [gemlist] itself part of a more recent version, or what? Also, a dumb question: How to create (at various times) and destroy (at various times) geos, abstractions, etc.? That is, how to have various things pop in and out of existence (in the Gem window, at least) as the "performance" runs? Thanks. -- Dudley

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Berlin trip, April 21-30
by Chuckk Hubbard 13 Mar '08

13 Mar '08

Hi all. I'm taking my first trip to Berlin April 21-30! While I'm there I'm hoping to catch some electronic music and/or chat with people using Pd (& Csound, Linux, computer music). Any suggestions? -Chuckk -- http://www.badmuthahubbard.com

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Re: [PD] [almost OT] need suggestions for an implementation
by Matteo Sisti Sette 12 Mar '08

12 Mar '08

Frank wrote: > You could do that with the "textfile" and "pipe" solution as well. The > order of lines in textfile doesn't matter, if you pipe them to "pipe". Ohhhhhh, great! I didn't understand your proposed solution, until I had another look at the [pipe] help, which I was convinced I knew, and was convinced worked another way :$ So, it seems I don't even need any [textfile], just the pipe; and the way it "wants" the time to be specified (relative to when you insert the message) is just the way I want to specify it. So, the only problem now (which is a big one indeed) is that the format for the messages will be fixed, while I would like to manage arbitrary-length messages with variable-type arguments. Not to mention that allowing symbols is untested. This is the first time I have a wish for the pd wishlist that is not "fix bug number xxx". I am thinking about crazy dynamic-patching hacks to achieve this....... Another question: do you know how the sorting of messages inside [pipe] is implemented? Will the time needed to add a message increase linearly? (I think the best achievable is logaritmically, isn't it) > And I don't know if the > number of messages you can store in a "pipe" is limited or big enough If not, I think I can work this one around by using multiple pipes, keep track of the number of stored messages, and use a [poly] to menage "available" [pipe]s Thanks m.

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[tutorial] creating a DVD with Pd+Gem
by Claude Heiland-Allen 12 Mar '08

12 Mar '08

Hi, I've written a tutorial on creating an PAL 4:3 interlaced DVD with Pd and Gem. Biased towards Linux, because that's what I use, might work on OS X and Windows, I haven't tested. Still some flaws, notably the lack of spatial filtering before fields are discarded (which results in ugly aliasing). I wrote a C program to discard alternate fields from successive frames, if such a tool already exists please let me know - I couldn't find one in netpbm or mjpegtools. Thanks to Roman and Cyrille for persuading me to use the method of rendering full frames at double framerate then discarding alternate fields. Note: if you try it out, be prepared to have plenty of disk space free - I needed about 12GB (but I think latest Gem fixes an issue that should halve that to 6GB). Note: you also need to change the path where images are saved (in "iris.pd"). Links: https://devel.goto10.org/listing.php?repname=maximus&path=%2Ftutorials%2Fge… https://devel.goto10.org/dl.php?repname=maximus&path=%2Ftutorials%2Fgem-dvd… svn checkout https://devel.goto10.org/svn/tutorials/gem-dvd gem-dvd http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/index.php?page=gallery/tutorials/gem-dvd Any/all feedback appreciated! Future plans include adding Pd-generated sound, proper anti-aliasing of the video, more interesting video, and better documentation (let me know what is lacking). Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org

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Re: [PD] midi -> pd -> osc
by Martin Peach 12 Mar '08

12 Mar '08

Try something like the attached patch. Martin Atte André Jensen wrote: >Hi > >I'd like to build a performance interface in pd for controlling chuck in >realtime. I was hoping to make the widgets in pd send osc to chuck. Also >I'd like them to be "slaves" of incomming midi cc messages (for sliders) >or laptop-keyboard input (for switches). > >Is such a thing possible, anything special I should be aware of and >where can I find more information regarding generating osc/pd and >"slaving" a widget to midi or key pressure?

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midi -> pd -> osc
by Atte André Jensen 12 Mar '08

12 Mar '08

Hi I'd like to build a performance interface in pd for controlling chuck in realtime. I was hoping to make the widgets in pd send osc to chuck. Also I'd like them to be "slaves" of incomming midi cc messages (for sliders) or laptop-keyboard input (for switches). Is such a thing possible, anything special I should be aware of and where can I find more information regarding generating osc/pd and "slaving" a widget to midi or key pressure? -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk

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GSoC student app template
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 12 Mar '08

12 Mar '08

Hey, I started to sketch out a template for student applications: http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GSoCStudentApp Feel free to edit, make suggestions, etc. .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- "It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of Environmentalism", by Curtis White

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Re: [PD] [almost OT] need suggestions for an implementation
by matteo sisti sette 12 Mar '08

12 Mar '08

Frank Barknecht wrote: > > - you can [add( messages with a scheduled time that is not greater than all > > previously added messages. > > I don't understand what you mean with this one. Could you give an > example? I guess the example I posted in reply to Roman answers to that. When you add a message to a [qlist] or [textfile], it will always be appended to the end of the queue. In the object that I need to implement, I need to be able, at any time, to schedule (i.e. add to the queue) a message whose time (the time at which it will be output) may be "earlier" than the time of messages already present in the queue. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistisette(a)gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Strings Of Consciousness' newsletter
by Philippe Petit 12 Mar '08

12 Mar '08

dear listeners, hope that this message finds you well for the more curious among you we have a very nice feature in Chain DLK international magazine http://www.chaindlk.com/interviews/index.php?interview=SOC musically-wise, we have completed a new song with Pantaleimon http://www.pantaleimon.com/ the collaboration will appear on a disc featuring her work remixed by the who is who of Industrial cultures: andrew w.k, stephen o'malley, chris and cosey, lilium, andrew liles, colin potter, susan stenger, clodagh simonds and will come out on david tibet's Durtro/Jnana prestigious label. http://www.durtro.com/index3.html as you might remember last Summer Karl records released a split with Kammerflimmer Kollektief and Strings Of Consciousness 2 songs can be heard on the label site http://www.karlrecords.net/karl.swf and the third one on our my space http://www.myspace.com/stringsofconsciousness the vinyl-only 10' is limited to 500 copies ltd. edition (act fast as some are left for purchase and then it will become a collectible), so it sounded like a good idea to make those songs available on a CD, accompanied with remixes by friends and sound-designers whom we respect that will be on OFF and hitting the racks in May to raise your appetite feel free to hear one of those remixes by Leafcutter John there: http://www.myspace.com/leafcutterjohn another one by Gamal Trio there: www.myspace.com/offlabel and watch that video which will be a Quicktime bonus to the CD http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=27871402 directed by anne sulikowski from Castle Clips. she's also behind the music of Building Castles out of Matchsticks http://www.myspace.com/castleclips + our TOP 33 for 2007 ARTIST ALBUM label Oxbow : the narcotic story (Hydra Head) Rothko : eleven stages of intervention [BiP_HOp] Caribou : andorra (Merge) Function : the secret miracle fountain (Locust) Pluramon : the monstrous surplus (Karaoke Kalk) Do Make Say Think : you, you are a history in rust (Constellation) Kammerflimmer Kollektief : jinx (Staubgold) Darling : s/t (Cave 12) Tuxedomoon : vapour trails (Crammed) Jesu : conqueror (HydraHead) Helen Money : s/t (Cellobird) Neurosis : given to the rising (Neurot) ?Alos : ricordi indelibili (Bar La Muerte) Foetus : damp (Ectopic Ents) Zeitkratzer & Lou Reed : metal machine music (Asphodel) KTL : #2 (Editions Mego) Tarentel : ghetto beats on the surface of the sun (Temporary Residence) Dälek : abandoned language (Ipecac) Trentemoller : the last resort (Poker Flat) Pantaleimon : trees hold time (Jnana) Spaceheads & Max Eastley : a very long way from anywhere else [BiP_HOp] Pan sonic : Katodivaihe/Cathodephrase (Blast First Petite) Murcof : cosmos (Leaf) Port-Royal : afraid to dance (Resonant) Golden Death : ephemera blues (Helmet Room) Drog_A_Tek : who hurt you? (Que Tempo) Migraine Inducers : antagonistic music (Beta Lactam Ring) Klima : s/t (Peacefrog) Piano Magic : part monster (Green Ufos) Sinner DC : mount age (Ai) Don Shtone : beware of the cat (Off) Mùm : go go smear the poison ivy (FatCat) Sunburnded Circle : the blaze game (Conspiracy) may the music be with you ip http://www.stringsofconsciousness.info _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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