Pd-list March 2008

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Rotating object rolling on irregular terrain
by Andy Farnell 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

I'm trying to obtain a waveform for a rolling cylinder on an irregular surface. The signature looks like the attached, or see this paper. https://www.enactivenetwork.org/download.php?id=97 Rath gives a formula that uses a square root, which I want to avoid. Several methods I've tried, based on samplehold and a parabolic shaper almost get there, but I can't quite crack this one. It is the circular motion of the cylinder rotating around the last maxima and truncated by the intersection of the radius with the next minima. I want to generate it from a samplehold noise (step waveform) source in real time, so no look ahead or tables (although delaying by some blocks is okay) I've tried integrating and shaping the step wave, but it's not right :( Now I can't see the wood for the trees and think I'm missing something really obvious. Any geometry experts got an idea? Preferably something only in the signal domain. Cheers, Andy -- Use the source

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Re: [PD] pd-ext.04 libraries don't load on xp!
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

I can't reproduce this problem, so I am guessing it is due to some differences than the standard US WinXP setup. My system drive is the F: drive even, and that works fine. When you get this error, check to see whether the file actually exists in that exact location: > > C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\drip.dll: couldn't load > > drip > > ... couldn't create .hc On Mar 11, 2008, at 1:30 PM, Matthew Logan wrote: > This happens to mine as well. > > I took the same registry file that I created for the last pd- > extended and re-used it but it didn't work. For some reason, the > error messages in this version throw double slashes on every slash > in the search path, as shown below, while the paths under the path > menu still look correct. The trouble must be caused by that; some > error in the coding that deals with folder structure, saying that a > slash in a path entry should have a double slash, the program then > not being able to find it. > I'm not a coder and wouldn't know where to look or what to do when > found, but this seems to be a good starting point for someone who > does know a bit. > > Matt > > On 3/11/08, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> wrote: > > Does this file actually exist in this location? > > > C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\drip.dll: couldn't load > > drip > > ... couldn't create > > Try deleting C:\Program Files\pd and reinstalling Pd-extended. I've > never seen anything like this, it works on all the machines I've > tried. > > .hc > > On Mar 11, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Jerome Tuncer wrote: > > > In fact, > > > > No chance for me either. > > > > When I try to instantiate [glue] or [zexy/glue]. On WinXP SP2. > > > > Console output at startup says : > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ > > written by Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> > > compiled on Mar 10 2008 at 06:15:49 > > compiled against Pd version 0.40.3.extended-20080310 > > Gem: can't load library > > libdir_loader: added cyclone to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added zexy to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added creb to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added cxc to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added iemlib to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added list-abs to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added mapping to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added markex to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added maxlib to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added memento to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added mjlib to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added motex to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added oscx to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added pddp to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added pdogg to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added pixeltango to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added pmpd to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added rradical to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added sigpack to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added smlib to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added toxy to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added unauthorized to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added pan to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added freeverb to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added hcs to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added jmmmp to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added ext13 to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added hardware to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added ggee to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added flib to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added ekext to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added flatspace to the global classpath > > libdir_loader: added deprecated to the global classpath > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > But when I try to instantiate any zexy object (be it with [drip] or > > [zexy/drip]) : > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\drip.dll: couldn't load > > drip > > ... couldn't create > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > I haven't been using pd in windows for long but now I'd like to for > > some > > reasons and I'm not very confident with the behavior of pd-extended. > > > > What is the libdir loader ? Where can I find info on pd- > extended's way > > of loading externals/adding paths... ? > > > > ++ > > > > > > > > Jé > > > > Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > >> We should keep this on the list, so I cc'ed it. Try this: > >> > >> [zexy/niagara] > >> [zexy/glue] > >> > >> .hc > >> > >> On Mar 11, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Mirko Maier wrote: > >> > >>>> Works for me on WinXP. You'll need to provide more info if you > >>>> want > >>>> hlep. > >>> i can't say more than i've installed it (including registry), but > >>> then lots of objects don't work, e.g. "niagara" or "glue"... > >>> > >>> mirko > >>> > >>>> .hc > >>>> > >>>> On Mar 10, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Mirko Maier wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> hi list, > >>>>> again i've installed pd-ext: > >>>>> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-10/Pd-0.40.3- > >>>>> extended-20080310-windowsxp-i386.exe > >>>>> > >>>>> on win xp and lots of libraries don't load, even zexy. is > there no > >>>>> chance...? > >>>>> > >>>>> greets, > >>>>> mirko > >>>>> -- > >>>>> GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen > >>>>> Interessen! > >>>>> Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http:// > lists.puredata.info/ > >>>>> listinfo/pd-list > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> -- > >>>> --- > >>>> ---- > >>>> > >>>> Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know > >>>> how to > >>>> realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either > >>>> change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams > >>>> > >>> -- > >>> GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen > >>> Interessen! > >>> Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> --- > >> ---- > >> > >> 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,' she said, > >> hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out > >> another pink-collar temp pool day. - "Hijab Scene #2", by Mohja > Kahf > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > >> listinfo/pd-list > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > > listinfo/pd-list > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ---- > > I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three > meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, > and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin > Luther King, Jr. > > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- kill your television

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pulling inverse values from timer
by Ben Carney 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

Hello all, I may be going about this all wrong, so please tell me if there is a better solution to my query. I am building a patch that, among other things, returns the time between two bangs using the timer object. What I need to happen is this: if a short amount of time passes the number that is output is a large one and the inverse, if a lot of time passes, a small number is output. I have searched around quite a bit, but as I am not sure what I am trying to accomplish would be called, I haven't had great luck finding anything. any suggestions? alternate ideas I could try? thanks much. - Ben C.

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pyext and canvas_getcurrentdir()
by Peter Brinkmann 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

Hi all, Does pyext offer Python bindings for functions like canvas_getcurrentdir() from m_pd.h? I looked at the source code and noticed that pyext appends the current directory to the Python search path, so that I get the current directory via sys.path[-1]. I'm a little worried, though, that this behavior may change in a future revision of pyext. Best, Peter

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which version of pd do i have installed?
by Roman Haefeli 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

yo.... this might sound silly (and you guys most likely don't care, what version _i_ have installed). however, the 'menu -> help -> About Pd' tells me: Pd version 0.40.3 when i load [version] from hcs, it gives me: 0 41 0 test06 Dec 7 2007 03:24:18 when i load hexloader, which i just compiled, i get: hex loader $Revision: 1.5 $ written by IOhannes m zmï¿œnig, IEM <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> compiled on Mar 11 2008 at 11:03:15 compiled against Pd version 0.40.3. aaah, and now i realized, that there is simply 'pd -version', which also gives me: Pd version 0.40-3 compiled 06:47:02 Nov 28 2007 yo.. seems like [version] is buggy, if 'pd -version' can be trusted. roman ___________________________________________________________ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de

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call for mentors for Google Summer of Code
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

Hey, We need mentors for the Google Summer of Code! We've had some volunteers, more would be better. As a mentor, first off, you will be reviewing the submitted projects, ranking them, and ultimately choosing which ones get funded. Then if you have a student project assigned to you, you will help them complete the project by answering questions, offering advice, etc. You do not need to be a core developer to be a mentor, you just need to have a specific expertise in Pd things. You get to directly help students scratch "itches" that have been bugging you for a long time. Especially if they're itches that are really fun or would have a powerful impact. Plus you get that "feel good" feeling from helping out someone else. You will be directly involved in fostering the "next generation" of Pd developers. What I need now are Gmail email accounts from anyone who might want to be a mentor. (It's google, so it MUST be a gmail account : ( Please send them to me now, since the deadline is tomorrow. :) .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!

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dynamic patching - gui
by Mirko Maier 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

hi list, any hint, how can i create GUI stuff with messages sent to a subpatch? regards, mirko -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehÃ¶rt? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger?did=10

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request for a PDa mailing list
by alejo d 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

Hi, today we had some email exchange between people/projects (at least 5 are known) related to the PDa port for the gumstix done last year[1], since everyone using it is trying to develop and port more externals, it will be wise to join efforts and even try to make a whole port to Open Embedded that can be stronger... Im not sure what will be the best way to go, I just proposed to begin with a mailing list dedicated to such topic. Will it be a good idea to have such project under sourceforge and a mailing list at IEM? Gunter, what do you think will be better? Buena noche. /a [ hosted by bek.no here -> http://158.37.56.3/immigrante/pda_port_for_the_gumstix/ ]

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Listen and tag some music :)
by António Pedro Oliveira 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

Apologies if this is not an appropriate mailing list. Just in case you would like to listen (and tag) some music go to the following address :) You'll need more or less 10 minutes for that. http://student.dei.uc.pt/~apsimoes/PhD/Music/ismir08/index.html Thanks for your attention, -- António Pedro Oliveira

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some objects in the extra folder do not load
by Uğur Güney 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

# Hi, # I just downloaded and installed the new Pd-extended 40.3 for Windows. The new look is wonderful. Thanks for your effort! # I encounter with a problem which I had before too. Some objects in the "extra" folder does not load when I browse through the Pd Browser under the "5. reference/". As a specific example in the "5. reference/bassemu/bassemu-help~.pd" the [bassemu~] object does not be loaded. I look in my "C:\music\pd-ext40.3\extra\bassemu" folder and there exist the "bassemu~.dll" file. So the file is there but PD does not load it. # Can you show me how I can handle this situation. This problem is true for many other objects I really want to try, ie. sssad, memento, boid2d, iemtab, msd etc. -ugur-

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