Pd-list March 2008

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Re: [PD] some objects in the extra folder do not load
by Patrice Colet 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

Ah, I've been one more time so stupid I didn't put the right URL, it is not http://autobuild.puredata.info/ but http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/ thank you Mike, for the connection, and bassemu~ works! it's just great. For people that might be interested into composing drum'n'bass with pd, I'll certainly add bassemu~ to this drumbox project in development: http://megalego.free.fr/pd/patko/ any suggestion is highly appreciated. Thanks to FB's [sssad] that makes this project available with pd-vanilla only. Presets aren't yet availables, also I'm not so far from having them, and also a song mode, but we can have fun with the box (just make sure to set a new sequence before playing), pd-rebirth is just a question of a few patches now. Mike McGonagle a Ã©crit : > http://puredata.info/downloads > > You can find links to all the latest things here... if you want the > nightly build on, there is a link towards the bottom of the page... > > Mike > > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Patrice Colet <pat(a)mamalala.org > <mailto:pat@mamalala.org>> wrote: > > In other words, can someone post the full URL to the last windows > build of pd-extended, thanks, :). > > > Patrice Colet a Ã©crit : > > Do you mean that bassemu~ compiles on windows? It's a very good > new, > > last time I tried to build it with cygwin, there was an error I > couldn't > > figure out, anyway I couldn't try the brand new pd-extended > because in > > here the autobuild.puredata.info <http://autobuild.puredata.info> > URL doesn't work, it's making a kind of > > weird loop, and the DLL's aren't available without the installer... > > > > > > Hans-Christoph Steiner a Ã©crit : > >> Or use [import bassemu] or just change the object name to > [bassemu/bassemu~] > >> > >> .hc > >> > >> On Mar 9, 2008, at 8:19 AM, hard off wrote: > >> > >>> you will need to specify paths to subdirectories inside your extra > >>> folder too. > >>> > >>> ie, you will need to add C:\music\pd-ext40.3\extra\bassemu > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> PD-list(a)iem.at <mailto:PD-list@iem.at> <mailto:PD-list@iem.at > <mailto:PD-list@iem.at>> mailing list > >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Â¡El pueblo unido jamÃ¡s serÃ¡ vencido! > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> PD-list(a)iem.at <mailto:PD-list@iem.at> mailing list > >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list(a)iem.at <mailto:PD-list@iem.at> mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at <mailto:PD-list@iem.at> mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > -- > Peace may sound simpleÂ—one beautiful wordÂ— but it requires everything we > have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. > Â—Yehudi Menuhin (1916Â–1999), musician

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Re: [PD] vst~
by Rua Haszard Morris 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

On windows or ... ? I am able to successfully use it on windows, I figured things out by looking at the help patch for it. (Still trying to get plugin~ working for LADSPAs tho, ... ) Essentially [vst~ 2 2 X:/VSTs/CamelCrusher.dll] works (on windows), that's the number of ins, outs and the path to the VST dll. Also adding the VST path to the list of paths PD searches, and just using the dll name without the path works too. There are lots of things you can send to the first inlet to do things, and connecting the right outlet to print will give you useful info. Sorry if any of this is misleading, it is all from memory... On linux, I imagine you'll have to be running 32 bit, WINE, a vst compatibility library, etc etc to get this working. Alternatively (if this is easier or not I don't know) there's a dssi-vst adaptor dssi plugin, and perhaps you could get plugin~ to load that? have fun Rua HM. -- http://myspace.com/haszari http://haszaristwocents.blogspot.com http://last.fm/music/Haszari ----- Original Message ---- From: Justin Robert <justin(a)justinrobert.com> To: pd-list(a)iem.at Sent: Tuesday, 11 March, 2008 5:50:28 AM Subject: [PD] vst~ Does anyone know where I can find any info on how to use this object? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Justin _______________________________________________ PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

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A "broken" guitar flanger effect recreated in pd
by Andrzej Piontek 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

Hi there, i have a flanger guitar effect and I remember that when the battery was almost empty it started making, for a few moments (till the battery died), very interesting and unpredictable noises responding to what i was playing on my guitar. I was wandering if it would be possible to write such an effect in pd and simulate that "lack" of voltage. yendrrek _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml

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anyone in egypt?
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

Hey, I am starting to organize a trip to Egypt, a friend is living in Cairo and I have been wanting to go for a while. It would be fun to make some Pd connections while I was there. .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- "It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of Environmentalism", by Curtis White

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MIDI Interface problem on Mac OS X 10.4
by Mike McGonagle 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

Hello all, I was testing out my midi interface with [midiin] (and yes, it does warn that it only works on Linux, but it does appear somewhat to work on the Mac). The problem that I am seeing is that when I have something connected to the first input port of my MT4 interface, it gets reported as coming from Port 2. Also, when I try to send something out of [midiout], it will get sent out the second port by default. Is MIDI support on the Mac limited in this way? Or do others not have this problem? I am running on a G4 Laptop, OS X 10.4. Mike -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician

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vst~
by Justin Robert 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

Does anyone know where I can find any info on how to use this object? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Justin

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good filter with no externals
by cyrille henry 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

hello, here is a lowpass resonant filter that i made based on gunter [fft_convolution] abstraction. changing the filter coef use lot's of CPU, but without changing the coef this filter is nice. it can be improve in different way, but the most important is probably the way to write the impulse response on the table. please tell me if you see a fast way to do it. have fun Cyrille

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[PD-announce] xxxxx_workshop_39_40 Berlin: DIY HID sensors
by Derek Holzer 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

xxxxx_workshop_39_40 Berlin: Using Cheap Game Controllers and DIY Interface for Sensor Input into Pure Data with Derek Holzer & Martin Howse A (more-or-less) weekly series of constructivist workshops emphasising making and connection within the field of the existent. Calendar: March 15th 2PM: Using Cheap Game Controllers and DIY Interface for Sensor Input into Pure Data with Derek Holzer & Martin Howse March 29th 2PM: Hands on Theremin Workshop with Ralph Schreiber Forthcoming matter: Pinhole and Kirlian photography, radio telescopy, data forensics, scientific visualisation toolkits, hardware RNG, EVP, scrying boards and KiCad design ... contact if you're interested in leading a related workshop. //<------------------------------------------------- March 15th 2PM: Using Cheap Game Controllers and DIY Interface for Sensor Input into Pure Data with Derek Holzer & Martin Howse The workshop will focus on the quickest, cheapest way possible to get sensor input into the Pure Data programming environment - hacking USB game controllers and the HID (Human Interface Device) protocol. For often less than EUR 5 and a few minutes with the soldering iron, a clever artist can start plugging sensors which measure light, temperature, pressure, movement and many other things right into their laptop. We will also examine building our own USB input device using the ATmega8 microcontroller. Parts and tools for these projects as well as some sample sensors will be provided. Participants are encouraged to bring their own sensors and USB game controllers (joysticks, steering wheels, dancemats, toy guitars, fishing rods, etc etc) for experimentation. The Pure Data programming environment will be used to get the sensor information into the computer and map it to different parameters, ranging from MIDI to direct control of audio or video. Windows users should be aware that the possibilities for input on their systems may be more restricted. GNU/Linux and Mac OS X users should not expect any problems. Some links for those interested: http://puredata.info/ (Pure Data) http://puredata.info/downloads (install PD-Extended 0.39 from here!) http://at.or.at/hans/research/nime/ (HC Steiner's page on sensor interfaces) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sensors (every imaginable kind of sensor listed) ---What to bring: Essential: 1) Laptop running Linux, OS X or Windows (be advised that Windows users may have fewer possibilities) 2) Pure Data Extended 0.39 installed from: http://puredata.info/downloads (please mind that it is Extended and 0.39!!!!) 3) Soundcard (internal or external, quality a non-issue) 4) Headphones 5) EUR 15 participation fee Recommended/Suggested: 1) Sensors of any kind 2) USB game controller of any kind 3) Microphones or other sound inputs 4) Your own project ideas for discussion ---About the Teachers Derek Holzer [USA 1972] began working with Pure Data in 2001. Since then, he has taught and performed with the program across Europe, North America, Brazil and New Zealand. His work focuses on field recording, networked collaboration strategies, experiments in improvisational sound and the use of free software such as Pure-Data. He is currently writing a beginner's manual for Pure Data. http://www.umatic.nl/info_derek.html http://www.umatic.nl/workshops.html http://flossmanuals.net/puredata Martin Howse operates within the fields of discourse, speculative hardware (environmental data in open physical systems), code (an examination of layers of abstraction), free software and the situational (performances and interventions). http://1010.co.uk ---_______ Background: Workshops led by field-expert practitioners extend over realms of code and embedded code, environmental code, noise, transmission and reception, and electromysticism. Workshops solely utilise free software and GNU toolbase. Practitioners have included Martin Kuentz (prd(a)scrying.org), Julian Oliver (http://selectparks.net/), Derek Holzer (http://soundtransit.nl), Jeff Mann (http://jeffmann.com), Martin Howse (http://1010.co.uk), Fredrik Olofsson (http://www.fredrikolofsson.com/), Florian Cramer (http://cramer.plaintext.cc:70/), Brendan Howell, , jo FRGMNT grys(http://tob.de.vu/) xxxxx, pickledfeet, Linienstrasse 54, Berlin 10119 U2, Rosa-Luxemburg-Pl. U8, Rosenthaler Pl. Telephone: 3050187482. http://1010.co.uk/workshop.html http://1010.co.uk/xxxxx_research_institute.html http://pickledfeet.com -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 116: "Make an exhaustive list of everything you might do and do the last thing on the list" _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] Pd sounds better than Max?
by matteo sisti sette 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

Hi, I always blamed the sound card and/or headphones, as I have only done this test on a laptop with a shitty integrated soundcard (and I usually don't work with synthesis, nor with such refined processing to require to care too much about subtleties)... but now I doubt. The attached patch is simply an osc *~ed by a number and connected to the dac i.e.: [osc~ 500] | [*~ 0.05] |\ [dac~] with a slider ranging from 0 to 0.1 connected to the right inlet of the *~. Now, to my ear the sinusoid sounds ridiculously distorted, with really very very audible harmonics. Especially if I lower the amplitude to a value below 0.03, which is still enough "loud" to be heared clearly. As I move the slider up and down I can distinctly hear how the harmonic spectrum changes (apart from the obvious clicks in the moment you move the slider). As I mentioned, I always thought it was the hardware, since I can't believe such an enormous distortion is the normal expected one due to 32 bit float precision... Or is this the result of the issues that have been mentioned in this thread (table size, linear interpolation)??? -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistisette(a)gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com

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ERROR: can't load library in vbap_ext
by robcanning 09 Mar '08

09 Mar '08

vbap error in pd-extended [import]: ERROR: can't load library in vbap_ext this is all i can find out from google but this is quite old and maybe not relevant http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-cvs/2007-09/012699.html Pd version 0.41-1extended-20080227 compiled 07:30:28 Feb 27 2008 thanks rob c

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