Pd-list September 2006

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midi synch strategy
by Davide Morelli 25 Sep '06

25 Sep '06

hi list, what is, in your experience, the best way to synchronize pd and an external software (like Ableton Live or Reason) using MIDI? ciao, Davide.

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Re: Re: [PD] comport port numbers :: bash trick
by martin.peach＠sympatico.ca 25 Sep '06

25 Sep '06

> > De: IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> > Date: 2006/09/25 lun. AM 10:43:34 GMT-04:00 > À: Martin Peach <martin.peach(a)sympatico.ca> > Cc: PD list <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Objet: Re: [PD] comport port numbers :: bash trick > > Martin Peach wrote: > > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > >> filesystem, they exist. I think its the same with Linux udev systems. > > > > udev looks nice but I guess not every linux has it. > > this is correct, but it is _the_ standard way of doing it > since..hmm...kernel-2.6.8 i think. > and prior to this there was devfs, which provided the same functionality > (kind of). > > i would really suggest to _not_ probe each device whether it is actually > valid, but instead to rely on a properly set up /dev-tree (either > manually or via udev or similar). > > blind probing is likely to hang your system. Yes but opening a serial port via the operating system isn't blind probing. Using assembly language to access hardIf the OS is any good at all it will return an error for nonexistent hardware. In /var/boot.msg the system logs its detection of the serial devices. On my system there are only two, but /dev/ has many more entries for serial devices. On Windows comport tries to open COM1 through COM98. This doesn't hang my system. The OS returns "file doesn't exist". > > getting the available devices (and making them accessible) is really a > task of the operating system and not of any application. Yes I agree, but how does an application access that information for each platform? Martin > > > mfg.asdr > IOhannes >

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Re: [PD] patching without mouse
by Jason Plumb 25 Sep '06

25 Sep '06

"carlos katastrofsky" said: > just found this: > http://desiredata.goto10.org/wiki/UserDocs > (scroll down a bit to: 2. keyboard navigation) <disclaimer>I haven't tried out DD yet</disclaimer>, but those keyboard shortcuts just might be the motivating factor! I certainly don't want to beat a dead horse (seriously), but as a frequent pd user I'd personally LOVE to see some/all of the keyboard nav from DD make it into pd proper. The constant switching between keyboard and mouse and back is likely the number one gating speed factor when creating new patches...at least for me. Just my $0.02. -jason http://noisybox.net

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comport port numbers :: bash trick
by Alexandre Quessy 25 Sep '06

25 Sep '06

Hi, Those who are using Arduinos, Wiring and such interface could tell me if this little trick work for you too. This bash shell command on linux gives the material hardware port numbers that comport uses for USB serial communication in Pd. i=0; for f in `ls /dev/tty[US]*`; do echo $i $f; i=$(( $i + 1 )); done On my Debian laptop, it gives this: 0 /dev/ttyS0 1 /dev/ttyS1 2 /dev/ttyS10 3 /dev/ttyS11 4 /dev/ttyS12 5 /dev/ttyS13 6 /dev/ttyS14 7 /dev/ttyS15 8 /dev/ttyS16 9 /dev/ttyS17 10 /dev/ttyS18 11 /dev/ttyS19 12 /dev/ttyS2 13 /dev/ttyS20 14 /dev/ttyS21 15 /dev/ttyS22 16 /dev/ttyS23 17 /dev/ttyS24 18 /dev/ttyS25 19 /dev/ttyS26 20 /dev/ttyS27 21 /dev/ttyS28 22 /dev/ttyS29 23 /dev/ttyS3 24 /dev/ttyS30 25 /dev/ttyS31 26 /dev/ttyS32 27 /dev/ttyS33 28 /dev/ttyS34 29 /dev/ttyS35 30 /dev/ttyS36 31 /dev/ttyS37 32 /dev/ttyS38 33 /dev/ttyS39 34 /dev/ttyS4 35 /dev/ttyS40 36 /dev/ttyS41 37 /dev/ttyS42 38 /dev/ttyS43 39 /dev/ttyS44 40 /dev/ttyS45 41 /dev/ttyS46 42 /dev/ttyS47 43 /dev/ttyS5 44 /dev/ttyS6 45 /dev/ttyS7 46 /dev/ttyS8 47 /dev/ttyS9 48 /dev/ttyUSB1 My Arduino is at port number 48. So, I just need to initialize comport like this: [comport 48 9600] And then the communication is possible. I wrote this note int the dataflow wiki : http://wiki.dataflow.ws/comport So, I only want to know if this bash command work on your setup too. Cheers, -- Alexandre Quessy http://alexandre.quessy.net/

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Fwd: PD releases for beginners
by michael noble 25 Sep '06

25 Sep '06

hi all, I'm looking to get into PD, but am seriously confused by the mismatching releases abounding on the net. The PD extended is a 0.38 release, so far as I can tell, and some of the patches I want to explore require 0.39, so this is ruled out even if it seems the easiest solution for starting out. I thought it might be easy to just download the externals package but that doesn't seem to have been updated since 2003, which just screams deprecated. Is there a tutorial or quick guide somewhere that'll point me in the direction of setting up a relatively complete (with most widely available extras/externals) PD install that'll play happy with my FC5/CCRMA machine? Am I better off waiting for the new extended release recently announced? Any thoughts? regards Michael John Noble

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numbers over 6 digits--URGENT!!
by adrian goya 25 Sep '06

25 Sep '06

Hi, Í'm building an interface for registering visitors to an expo. I'm on windows using 0.39.2-extended-test4 and the GUI is made with [gripd].... So, someone inserts his name, mail and phone number in 3 different textboxes in [gripd] and everything is [pack]ed together and added to a [textfile]. The problem is that the phone numbers get converted to scientific numeric format (eg: 0445554241424 = 4.4554e+011), so it´s of no use. How can I get the 0445554241424 (yes, that's a cellphone) to enter the textfile exactly as it is written in the textbox? Any help would be greatly appreciated, as this needs to be ready in the next 12 hours... jeje. adrian.

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[PD-announce] its time to make a new Pd-extended release!
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 24 Sep '06

24 Sep '06

This is a call to all devs who want to have something in Pd-extended, or already do. Its time to finally make a release of Pd-extended 0.39.2. So now's the time to get your stuff integrated and working out of box. Feel free to ask me questions about any of this. Also, we can track progress with the nightly autobuilds (WinXP autobuilds coming soon...). Then we were are ready to make a release, I'll make a branch and we can tie everything up. .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits. - Martin Luther King, Jr. _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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execute matlab using [shell] object
by Gerda Strobl 24 Sep '06

24 Sep '06

Dear all, I'd like to execute a matlab file using the shell object. The standard command I use ist /usr/local/matlab7/bin/./matlab -nodisplay -nosplah. Sending such a message to the shell object - I only get the info that the program starts on the pd-shell: STDOUT: < M A T L A B > STDOUT: Copyright 1984-2004 The MathWorks STDOUT: Inc. STDOUT: Version 7.0.0.19901 (R14) STDOUT: May 6 STDOUT: 2004 STDOUT: Warning: Duplicate directory name: /home/gerda/matlab. STDOUT: To get started STDOUT: type one of these: helpwin STDOUT: helpdesk STDOUT: or demo. STDOUT: For product information STDOUT: visit www.mathworks.com. STDOUT: >> DONE: 0 but there is no chance, to send it more options (change dir, set a paramater). So nothing. Has someone done this already? (I know there is pdoctave, but octave is too slow). Or do iI treat the shell object in a wrong way? Or is it simply not possible? (I'd like to recalculate a matrix in matlab and then write a *.mtx file back to my pddirectory, in order to use it wth the iematrix objects). Or do I give matlab the wrong commands? Help would be great! Thanks, Gerda

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General question about PureData make files
by Mike McGonagle 24 Sep '06

24 Sep '06

Hello all, I have been working more lately with Pure Data, and have noticed there have been some comments regarding Makefiles. One of the issues that I used on Mac OS X was mentioned as being depreciated. So, I guess my question is... Does anyone have "standard" make files for different platforms? I am working on Mac OS X 10.3.9, but also have access to some Windows machines, as well as a MacIntel machine. Thanks, Mike -- Help the Environment, Plant a Bush back in Texas! "I place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt." -- Thomas Jefferson, third US president, architect and author (1743-1826) "Give Peace a Chance" -- John Lennon (9 October 1940 – 8 December 1980)

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Re: [PD] Any Linux distribution recomended for Mac, Puredata and vjing?
by bigswift＠cox.net 24 Sep '06

24 Sep '06

i have Ubuntu comfortably running on an older G4 desktop and a G4 laptop. Both have pd/pdp/pidip/gridflow etc.. works fine and fast pp ---- "paris(a)parisgraphics.com" <paris(a)parisgraphics.com> wrote: > Hi Hans-Christoph and List, > > I know that is true with Debian but does that work with Ubuntu too? > Has anyone tried? > > Thanks, > p > > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans(a)eds.org > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 01:36:12 -0400 > To: tirengarfio(a)hotmail.com, PD-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] Any Linux distribution recomended for Mac,Puredata and > vjing? > > > > It think you'll have the best luck with Ubuntu or Debian since you > can get pre-compiled packages for Gem, PDP, and PiDiP. > > .hc > > On Sep 19, 2006, at 8:22 PM, Javier García wrote: > > > Just that :) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > > listinfo/pd-list > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are > deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from > scarcity." -John Gilmore > > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Patrick Pagano Digital Media Specialist University of Florida Digital Worlds Institute 352-294-2082

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