Pd-list May 2005

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Artengine Labs, first day
by Mathieu Bouchard 06 May '05

06 May '05

This is the first day of Artengine Labs (Ottawa, ON). Hurray! Artengine is eight years old but never have had much of a room before today. http://www.artengine.ca/~alx/lab/dsc00359.jpg : left to right Alexandre Castonguay Darsha Hewitt Stéphanie Brodeur http://www.artengine.ca/~alx/lab/dsc00356.jpg : Andrée Préfontaine if you wonder why it's on-topic, well, all of those people have something to do with PureData and GridFlow, and furthermore, Alex/Artengine has been catalysing the development of GridFlow since day zero (that is, january 2001). ,-o---------o---------o---------o-. ,---. irc.freenode.net #dataflow | | The Diagram is the Program (TM) | | ,-o-------------o--------------o-. `-o--------------o--------------o-' | | Mathieu Bouchard (Montréal QC) | | téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 `---' `-o-- http://artengine.ca/matju -'

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insta-builds?
by Thoralf Schulze 06 May '05

06 May '05

Hi list, most of the development of pd, gem and the externals is taking place in the cvs nowadays. This a good thing on the one hand, because it allows for a non-centralized and transparent software development. On the other hand, it is not so cool, because it makes it pretty hard for the average user to get the latest version of this or that external with all these cool new features ... With average user, I refer to people with no permanent internet connection (which is bad when one has to hunt down a specific version of a specific library which in turn depends on a ton of other specific libraries) and who do not necessarily use linux (sources? compiling? where's the installer? MinGW? what the ... ?). These people are forced to use rather old versions. To give an example: the latest GEM build for win is about a year old ... and there were some very interesting additions recently, like advanced movement detection, freeframe-plugins and so on. It would be great if we could establish something like an instant build system that builds fresh version straight from the cvs automagically once a month or something like this. Something similar was working for the xvid mpeg4 codec a while ago, and it was very much appreciated by the community. Needless to say, the usage of these versions would be completely unsupported and "at your own risk", but I guess that the average non-self-compiler could live with this. In any case, more people would use fresh versions, which will probably lead to faster bug detection and all other sorts of benefits ... with kind regards, Thoralf. ___________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de

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trying to compile mp3cast~
by Pall Thayer 06 May '05

06 May '05

Hi, I got the mp3cast~ files from cvs and trying to make for Linux gives this: palli@palli:~/iars/pd-0.38-0/mp3cast $ make cc -DPD -DUNIX -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -g -I../src -o mp3amp~.o -c mp3amp~.c mp3amp~.c: In function `mp3amp_decode_input': mp3amp~.c:289: warning: passing arg 6 of `decodeMP3' from incompatible pointer type make: *** [mp3amp~.pd_linux] Error 1 Any ideas anyone? I really, really need this to work. I've been using the precompiled binary from Yves site and it keeps crashing on me. -- _______________________________ Pall Thayer artist/teacher http://www.this.is/pallit http://pallit.lhi.is/panse Lorna http://www.this.is/lorna _______________________________

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Ping Pong for Pure Data
by Mark Havryliv 06 May '05

06 May '05

Hi All, I found this Ping Pong game I did for a composition assignment whilst cleaning up. It has no sound as I was attempting to frustrate my lecturer. But it uses scalars to draw the game, and I recall at ICMC 04 in Miami Miller mentioned he was curious to see what people had been doing with this feature of pd. I hope someone gets some good procrastination out of this! Get it at: https://pure-data.iem.at/Members/ThinkingBowler/ Cheers, Mark Havryliv of the Thinking Bowlers' Institute

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PDContainer 0.1
by Georg Holzmann 06 May '05

06 May '05

Hallo! I want to announce PDContainer 0.1. New feature is the XML-parser. short description, source and binaries: http://grh.mur.at/software/pdcontainer.html in cvs: /cvsroot/pure-data/externals/PDContainer LG Georg -- +++ Lassen Sie Ihren Gedanken freien Lauf... z.B. per FreeSMS +++ GMX bietet bis zu 100 FreeSMS/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail

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RE: [PD-dev] pddp style guide
by Anton Woldhek 05 May '05

05 May '05

Hello guys, Id just like to add to the discussion how I enjoy the supercollider help system. Ofcourse it taeks full advantage of the fact that sc is text coded and has a help system that was far easier to implemnt then something similar would be in pd. However, it might be worht having a look at it. For those that havent tried SC yet; its help file means that you can select any object or code and press help (similar to pd's right click help on windows) but the beauty is the structure, if a certain object or line of code doesn't have a help file you get thrown to the main help file which directs you to a lot of stuff. Theres tutorials or basic object help etc etc. Navigating it is very easy. Downside is that it isnt very easy to search it, the same problem that pd has ofcourse. I like the idea of having a html server inside pd gui. Im sure it wouldn't be too hard to implemnt a powerfull search engine in it that way. If wanted stuff like Millers book could even be included. Just to give the group another incentive, the feedback I get from a lot of newbies to coding, the biggest group ofnew users that are most likely to get in contact with pd etc as far as I can tell, say that some of the areas in which pd can improve greatly for them is documentation. Ive also been thinking of porting the max & msp tutorials to pd, however, I think that id run into copyright issues doing that, so perhaps we c/Ian do a rewrite that wouldn't have tha tproblem? Or am I suggesting something that has allready been started. Ofcourse there's millers book but its pretty math heavy for a lot of people that don't know how to look behind that. Cheers Anton Ps when the time comes that a standard has been chosen id be glad to help cross out some objects on the list to create new documentation for.

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Re: [PD-announce] zexy-2.0 - iemmatrix
by jmmmp 05 May '05

05 May '05

> and all the matrix-object have disappeared! (and are reappearing in the > iemmatrix-library) > > if you need the matrix-objects you will have to compile iemmatrix > yourself (as there is no binary release yet): it is all in the CVS... I am now working on a project which uses this object, but would like to stay up to date. Since I'm on XP and can't program, does anyone knows when a windows binary would be available? Anyone with free time? Joao

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pdp2gem compilation error
by Carl Forsell 05 May '05

05 May '05

hi, I'm trying to compile gem2pdp against gem-0.90, pd-0.38-4 and pdp-cvs; gem2pdp is built successfully but for pdp2gem I get the error: ...(gem2pdp compilation finishes)... g++ -DPD -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -Wall -W -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -DGEM2PDP_VERSION=\"0.6\" -g -I/home/cell/src/pure-data/pd-0.38-4/src -I. -I/home/cell/src/pure-data/pdp/include -I/home/cell/src/pure-data/gem-0.90.0/src -o pdp2gem.o -c pdp2gem.cpp pdp2gem.cpp: In member function `void pdp2gem::pdpMess(t_symbol*, int)': pdp2gem.cpp:162: error: no matching function for call to `imageStruct::fromYV12 (short int*&)' /home/cell/src/pure-data/gem-0.90.0/src/Base/GemPixUtil.h:275: error: candidates are: void imageStruct::fromYV12(unsigned char*, unsigned char*, unsigned char*) /home/cell/src/pure-data/gem-0.90.0/src/Base/GemPixUtil.h:277: error: void imageStruct::fromYV12(unsigned char*) pdp2gem.cpp:187: error: no matching function for call to `imageStruct::fromYV12 (short int*&)' /home/cell/src/pure-data/gem-0.90.0/src/Base/GemPixUtil.h:275: error: candidates are: void imageStruct::fromYV12(unsigned char*, unsigned char*, unsigned char*) /home/cell/src/pure-data/gem-0.90.0/src/Base/GemPixUtil.h:277: error: void imageStruct::fromYV12(unsigned char*) pdp2gem.cpp:212: error: no matching function for call to `imageStruct::fromYV12 (short int*&)' /home/cell/src/pure-data/gem-0.90.0/src/Base/GemPixUtil.h:275: error: candidates are: void imageStruct::fromYV12(unsigned char*, unsigned char*, unsigned char*) /home/cell/src/pure-data/gem-0.90.0/src/Base/GemPixUtil.h:277: error: void imageStruct::fromYV12(unsigned char*) make: *** [pdp2gem.o] Error 1 I've been trying to fiddle with the variable and type declarations to no avail... any idea as to what I might try next?

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Re: pd open panel in fluxbox
by Chris McCormick 05 May '05

05 May '05

On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 12:00:05PM +0200, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 10:09:42 +0200 > From: peter plessas <plessas(a)sbox.tugraz.at> > Subject: [PD] Re: pd open panel in fluxbox > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Message-ID: <42788346.1010409(a)sbox.tugraz.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Hi! > Thanks for the many replies! > > What turned out so far: > > Chris McCormick: > Thanks, i checked the "Remember" option and for the main Pd window it > was not set, and for the open dialog it is 'unavailable'. But it must > almost be something related to some winmgr preferences, since kde, etc > are fine. > > ChrisK: > Will try blackblox too. > > Common: > One more strange observation: After starting Pd, the first dialog window > i open (may that be open file...,etc) opens on the correct workspace, > but all subsequent windows are put on Wirkspace number ONE. > > Thanks again for the response, this is not too important, but one of > these 'little annoying thingies' :-) Hi, Sorry to be persistent, but I really think you should check the .fluxbox/apps file for anomylous entrys. Best, Chris. ------------------- chris(a)mccormick.cx http://mccormick.cx

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where is Grid? (OS X)
by Burt 05 May '05

05 May '05

Anthony, If you're looking for grid, I've got grid. Hans' installer is awesome. However, I prefer a slight variation of Pd for OS X. I figure, since I'm using it others might want it, too. So, you can find it here: http://pcm.peabody.jhu.edu/~sburt/pd/installing_pd_os_x.html A few people couldn't get my installer to run. However, others have told me it works great. You will find [grid] in mine. There are a few other notable differences. I took some files from Hans' app (notably the extras folder) and combined them with Miller's newest 0.38-3 app. I also added many other libraries including ruby.pd_darwin, although I haven't gotten it to work right yet. My installer uses the same version of Tk to draw the GUI which is several years old now. If you like the updated Tk, you can take it from Hans' app and drop it in place of the Tk folder in mine. The reason I use the older Tk is because I prefer the narrower signal cables because they are easier to line up straight on the screen. The biggest difference is how the Help menu is organized. There's been a lot of discussion about this recently and there might be a better organization method soon. Until then, I prefer separating the help files by library. Samuel Burt

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