Pd-list May 2005

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PDa, ipaq h5550, success
by David NG McCallum 10 May '05

10 May '05

Hello list, I just successfully got Guenter's PDa working on an ipaq h5550 with, unbelievably, almost no problems. The 'PDa on HP IPAQ 5550' list thread was incredibly helpful. Some things: Derek Holzer's 'ForwardX11Trusted yes' was only 'ForwardX11 yes' for me, in RH9. And for some reason was already in my ssh_config, not sure if I'd done that myself previously or not... Also the -rt flag is mandatory if you want any kind of sound. Is there a way to do this without being logged into the ipaq as root? Um, Guenter's editing of /etc/ipkg/pda.conf didn't work for me, so I got the packages manually. I got kismet working too and plan on interfacing kismet and Pd. Anybody have any suggestions on how to do this? On my laptop I've been using python as a kind of proxy/parser to do it. Is there a way to do this directly on PDa (since there's no [netclient] for it)? Also, I haven't tried, but is it possible to run PDa with just the barebones bootstrap installed, and not GPE? Thanks to Guenter for this work. This is awesome, I'll never use my laptop again! David -- __ _ _ _ _ __ ___ _ ___ __ _ _ _ ____ __ Music wants to be free http://sintheta.org

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Re: [PD] Grill's vasp external - sound editor
by Marius Schebella 09 May '05

09 May '05

> From: "Davide Morelli" > Here is something you might want to try befor start coding: > http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net (wedit.dp) > davide Hi, yes, I started this some time ago, but never did any further developement. possibilities for building the user interface were ... unsatisfying. Still I am thinking, it would be a good idea to have a native Pd wavetable editor. marius.

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sendOSC: handling big numbers
by Sukandar Kartadinata 09 May '05

09 May '05

hi list, here's an issue I have with OSC: [send /addr 1000000] | | [sendOSC 1024] what's transmitted here is not an integer but the string "1e+006" any workaround to transmit numbers bigger than a million ? thanks much, Sukandar

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Re: [PD] New external on neural networks
by Koray Tahiroglu 09 May '05

09 May '05

Hello, It is so good to hear that there is an external for multi-layered neural networks. I am doing a research about simulating human musical interaction where I am building a machine that can learn and perform music in real time. Davide, it would be nice if you can announce to the list when you have makefile or pre-compiled external of nn for OSX. and Davide and IOhannes, do you have any written documentations for nn and ann_som externals, something like more than help files? best, Koray. On May 9, 2005, at 1:30, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 19:20:41 +0200 (MEST) > From: "Georg Holzmann" <grhPD(a)gmx.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] New external on neural networks > To: info(a)davidemorelli.it > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > Message-ID: <3210.1115572841(a)www37.gmx.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hallo! > >> I just finished a little external I wrote to use FANN classes in PD. >> It is about multi layered neural networks. > cool - I also wanted to do that ... :) > >> I would like to know who is the author of the ann_som external, I >> think he >> could be interested in it (for ann_mlp). > it's iohannes. > >> It should compile on linux and osx also but I didn't try (you'll need >> to > add >> paths to fann src and libs).. if you do it please send me a makefile >> and >> I'll add it. > the makefile for linux is at grh.mur.at/Makefile, a minor change to > compile > nn.c on linux at grh.mur.at/nn.c > > Maybe you can put this in the externals/ann folder in cvs? > > LG > Georg > > ----------------- M.Koray Tahiroglu Media Lab, University of Art and Design Helsinki, TaiK Hameentie 135C 00560 Helsinki Finland http://mlab.uiah.fi/~korayt/ http://purenoise.uiah.fi:8000/ tel: +358 40 754 8449 fax: +358 9 75630 555

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Re: R: [PD] New external on neural networks
by Georg Holzmann 09 May '05

09 May '05

Hallo! > My external has one major problem: the training process. > It is tricky to fill a file with training patterns but the real problem is > that when I train the network using the training file I halt pd until the > function returns (see train_on_file function) which can take minutes. This > slows down the pc. Is there a way to do it in an asynchronous way? > Something > like creating a thread? Is out there an example of external using > threading? You could look at the pthread documentation. Online-Learning would be cool too. Is it supported in FANN? LG Georg > > Davide. > > > > -----Messaggio originale----- > > Da: pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at] > > Per conto di IOhannes m zmoelnig > > Inviato: domenica 8 maggio 2005 19.09 > > A: Davide Morelli > > Cc: PD list > > Oggetto: Re: [PD] New external on neural networks > > > > Davide Morelli wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > I just finished a little external I wrote to use FANN classes in PD. > > > It is about multi layered neural networks. > > > > > > I would like to know who is the author of the ann_som external, I > > > think he could be interested in it (for ann_mlp). > > > > its me. > > > > i haven't tried your code yet, but if you do not mind, i > > would highly appreciate if you would like to include your > > external into ann. > > > > btw, since i haven't done anything to ann within the last 4 > > years (or so), i wouldn't even mind if you join the > > development of ann (or take it > > over...) > > > > the only thing is, that it should remain onder GnuGPL. > > > > mfg,.a.dr > > IOhannes > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.3 - Release Date: 03/05/2005 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- +++ Lassen Sie Ihren Gedanken freien Lauf... z.B. per FreeSMS +++ GMX bietet bis zu 100 FreeSMS/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail

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writing ~
by jambonbill 09 May '05

09 May '05

hello, here is a very stupid problem : i'm new with apple computers, and i have a problem because i dont know how to write the symbol "~" on the keyboard. please help me, i cant use puredata without that :( thank you bill

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Custom menu
by jmmmp 09 May '05

09 May '05

Hello listers, I was thinking: since most of us have their own utilities (abstractions) collection, wouldn't it make sense to include an "expandable" custom menu in the gui to provide an easy acess to the files? after a certain number, it is not possible anymore to remember everything. I myself don't know how to work with tcl-tk, and maybe I'm too lazy now or don't have the time to fool around and find it out (I'm sure it wouldn't be difficult). But something like this would be handy: - the "custom" menu would be there, but empty - the documentation would include a couple of lines which would explain how to fill up the menu and edit the pd.tk (?) file -> how to name the new string, and which patch it opens. a common base would also allow different users to exchange menus, just like patches are now exchanged. wouldn't that be great? João Miguel Pais Lugostr. 14 79100 Freiburg i. Br. Deutschland +49 (0)761 7074997 jmmmp(a)arcor.de

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New external on neural networks
by Davide Morelli 09 May '05

09 May '05

Hi list, I just finished a little external I wrote to use FANN classes in PD. It is about multi layered neural networks. I would like to know who is the author of the ann_som external, I think he could be interested in it (for ann_mlp). If you want to have a look at my external here it is: https://puredata.org/Members/dmorelli/nn-0.01/download With sources, examples and a compiled for win32.. It should compile on linux and osx also but I didn't try (you'll need to add paths to fann src and libs).. if you do it please send me a makefile and I'll add it. Best, Davide.

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AiR in Hong Kong
by slimboyfatboyslim 09 May '05

09 May '05

Sorry for cross-posting. -- slimboyfatboyslim htttp://www.slimboyfatboyslim.org

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Re: [PD] [GEM] shadows and reflections
by Stefan Turner 09 May '05

09 May '05

Hi, thanks for the reply. > openGL does not support shadows at all (but there > are some tricks that > generate things that look like shadows) > they have a low priority on my todo-list Please can I ask what these tricks are, and would there be any way of implementing them using Gem objects, until Gem has shadow volumes or something? (You must admit that would be cool :) ) > > a simple reflection model should be possible, once > the "multiple_window" > thing gets finished. That sounds great. Stefan Turner Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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