Pd-list May 2005

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DSP Loop error is wrong!
by thewade 04 May '05

04 May '05

I am having a problem. I have created a little console patch and I am trying to get the effect send-recieve functionality working. (See picture http://root.aproximation.org/pdProb.jpg ) I am sending out some of the signal from each channel out what would be the effects send to the bank of allpass filters, but when I connect the allpass filters to the effect recieve I get an error: Error: DSP loop detected (some tilde objects not scheduled) ...and sound cuts out. How do I get my object to be able to send from two of the 5 outlets, and recieve into two of the 5 inlets? Thanks for the help! I am totally at a loss here. Sorry for the repost, but I dont even know where to look to set schedule priority for inlets and outlets... -thewade

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Re: [PD] gridflow for pd OS X
by Patrick Pagano 04 May '05

04 May '05

i reconfigured and re-compiled and changed the makefile to produce .pd_darwin but i am not sure i am on the right track /Users/patrickp/pd/bin/pd -lib ~/pd/GRIDFLOW/gridflow load_object: Symbol "_gridflow_setup" not found /Users/patrickp/pd/GRIDFLOW/gridflow: can't load library So i have not got it working properly yet On Apr 25, 2005, at 6:03 PM, Samuel Brialey Burt wrote: > There is definitely a gridflow.bundle file. > > sb > > > On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:44:27 -0400, "Patrick Pagano" <bigswift(a)ufl.edu> > said: >> as it would be from CVS teh file it produces is .bundle ? >> renaming it did not work :-)...at least for me >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 25, 2005, at 5:42 PM, Samuel Brialey Burt wrote: >> >>> By coincidence, I was trying to install gridflow in OS X 10.3, today, >>> because a visual artist hear at Peabody wanted to try it out. I got >>> all >>> the way up to the "make install" process. It returned the >>> information >>> that you can find at the bottom of this message. >>> >>> Not only this, the process corrupted my Pd installation (found at >>> pcm.peabody.jhu.edu/~sburt) so that no externals would load. >>> "libraryname: can't load library" for example. >>> >>> So, I tried with a fresh install of Pd to do something a bit >>> different. >>> I noticed the installer had left a gridflow.pd_darwin. So, I tried >>> just >>> dropping it in my "extras" folder. That's when I learned that >>> there's >>> more to gridflow than just having the prereqs installed and the >>> binary. >>> So, it appears that I need at the very least gridflow.so to be in the >>> right place according to: >>> >>> setting up Ruby-for-PureData... >>> we are using Ruby version 1.6.8 >>> (done) >>> ERROR: Cannot load GridFlow-for-Ruby (gridflow.so) >>> >>> Although I haven't found gridflow.so at all. I'm thinking the >>> makefile >>> was supposed to generate it? >>> >>> I hope the feedback helps. Please assist if possible. >>> >>> Samuel Burt >>> >>> >>> >>> results of sudo make install: >>> >>> install -c -p -m 0755 gridflow.bundle >>> /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/powerpc-darwin >>> mkdir -p /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//base/ >>> install -m 644 base/main.rb >>> /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//base//main.rb >>> install -m 644 base/flow_objects.rb >>> /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//base//flow_objects.rb >>> install -m 644 base/test.rb >>> /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//base//test.rb >>> install -m 644 base/source_filter.rb >>> /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//base//source_filter.rb >>> install -m 644 base/MainLoop.rb >>> /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//base//MainLoop.rb >>> mkdir -p /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//bridge/ >>> install -m 644 bridge/puredata.rb >>> /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//bridge//puredata.rb >>> mkdir -p /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//format/ >>> install -m 644 format/main.rb >>> /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//format//main.rb >>> mkdir -p /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//extra/ >>> install -m 644 extra/smpte.rb >>> /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//extra//smpte.rb >>> install -m 644 extra/server_2.rb >>> /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//extra//server_2.rb >>> install -m 644 extra/server_1_grid.rb >>> /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//extra//server_1_grid.rb >>> install -m 644 extra/server_1_ppm.rb >>> /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//extra//server_1_ppm.rb >>> install -m 644 extra/jmax_format.rb >>> /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//extra//jmax_format.rb >>> install -m 644 extra/puredata_format.rb >>> /sw/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/gridflow//extra//puredata_format.rb >>> cp bin/jmax2pd /sw/bin; chmod 755 /sw/bin/jmax2pd >>> mkdir -p >>> /Applications/Pd-0.38-3.app/Contents/Resources/lib/pd/doc/ >>> 5.reference/ >>> gridflow >>> cp pd_help/*.pd >>> /Applications/Pd-0.38-3.app/Contents/Resources/lib/pd/doc/ >>> 5.reference/ >>> gridflow >>> cp gridflow.pd_darwin pd_abstractions/*.pd >>> /Applications/Pd-0.38-3.app/Contents/Resources/lib/pd/extra >>> usage: cp [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-f | -i | -n] [-pv] src target >>> cp [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-f | -i | -n] [-pv] src1 ... srcN >>> directory >>> make: *** [puredata-install] Error 64 >>> -- >>> Samuel Brialey Burt >>> samuelburt(a)elitemail.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> Patrick Pagano, B.S.,M.F.A Candidate >> Research And Development Assistant >> Digital Worlds Institute >> University Of Florida >> (352) 294-2070 >> > -- > Samuel Brialey Burt > samuelburt(a)elitemail.org > > > Patrick Pagano, B.S.,M.F.A Candidate Research And Development Assistant Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2070

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pd-externals from CVS on OS X
by Niklas Saers 04 May '05

04 May '05

Hi, I am having a few problems with compiling the PD externals on OS X. I did not have these problems on my last compile, so I wonder if this is a problem on my side or if there are build errors in the CVS tree at the moment. The compile problems concern *diag, ea* and ogg*, and the bus error I get is with sfwrite13~. After doing a cvs up, going to externals/build/darwin and typing "make" gives me: cc -bundle -bundle_loader ../../../pd/bin/pd -L/sw/lib -o "bdiag~.pd_darwin" "bdiag~.o" -lc -lm \ `test -f bdiag~.libs && cat bdiag~.libs` \ `test -f ../src/bdiag~.libs && cat ../src/bdiag~.libs` ld: Undefined symbols: _IS_DENORMAL make[1]: *** [bdiag~.pd_darwin] Error 1 make: *** [link.stamp] Error 2 rm *diag* and a new make: cc -bundle -bundle_loader ../../../pd/bin/pd -L/sw/lib -o "eadsr~.pd_darwin" "eadsr~.o" -lc -lm \ `test -f eadsr~.libs && cat eadsr~.libs` \ `test -f ../src/eadsr~.libs && cat ../src/eadsr~.libs` ld: Undefined symbols: _milliseconds_2_one_minus_realpole make: *** [eadsr~.pd_darwin] Error 1 rm ea* and a new make: cc -bundle -bundle_loader ../../../pd/bin/pd -L/sw/lib -o "oggamp~.pd_darwin" "oggamp~.o" -lc -lm \ `test -f oggamp~.libs && cat oggamp~.libs` \ `test -f ../src/oggamp~.libs && cat ../src/oggamp~.libs` ld: Undefined symbols: _ogg_page_eos _ogg_page_serialno _ogg_stream_clear _ogg_stream_init _ogg_stream_packetout _ogg_stream_pagein _ogg_sync_buffer _ogg_sync_clear _ogg_sync_init _ogg_sync_pageout _ogg_sync_wrote _vorbis_block_clear _vorbis_block_init _vorbis_comment_clear _vorbis_comment_init _vorbis_dsp_clear _vorbis_info_clear _vorbis_info_init _vorbis_synthesis _vorbis_synthesis_blockin _vorbis_synthesis_headerin _vorbis_synthesis_init _vorbis_synthesis_pcmout _vorbis_synthesis_read make: *** [oggamp~.pd_darwin] Error 1 rm ogg* and make, and there are no more compile errors. But, using the newly compiled sfwrite13~ and sending it an "open test.wav" message makes pd terminate: pd_gui: pd process exited pd.sh: line 7: 6828 Bus error ../bin/pd -lib sfwrite13~ The version of PD I'm running is 0.38-3, are there perhaps any conflicts arising there? Any other suggestions of what might be leading to this error? Finally, I had a chat with Dieb regarding some changes I've made to sfwrite13~ (the one crashing is the CVS version). If it stops crashing and my changes work, I'd like to submit them for review and possibly being added to the CVS tree. Diem hasn't worked on ext13 for long, so who would be the one to talk to about this? Cheers Nik

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Thesis Presentation
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 04 May '05

04 May '05

I finished my Masters Thesis mid-year in December at the Interactive Telecommunications Program at New York University (ITP/NYU for short). We present our theses to public during Thesis Week, which is now. I'll be presenting my "[hid] toolkit for Pd" on Saturday, May 7th at 4:00pm EDT (20:00 UTC, 22.00 CET, 1:00pm PDT, etc. etc.) You can watch the video stream live and join in the chat room: http://stage.itp.nyu.edu/thesis/ .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!

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time delay between channels while reading recorded data
by "Alexandra Müller" 04 May '05

04 May '05

Dear all, I have a problem using pd 0.38 with asio. I use following start bat: @echo off set PD_INSTALL=C:\Programme\pd\bin set PD_AUDIO=-r 44100 -audiobuf 160 -channels 8 set PD_MIDI=-nomidi set PD_PATH=-path C:/Programme/pd/iemabs -path C:/Programme/pd/externs set PD_LIB=-lib iemlib1 -lib iemlib2 -lib iem_mp3 -lib iem_t3_lib set PD_ASIO=-asio @echo starting pd ... %PD_INSTALL%\pd %PD_AUDIO% %PD_MIDI% %PD_PATH% %PD_LIB% with Windows 2000 and using a RME Hammerfall DSP Interface. my problem: there is a time delay between the channels while reading out the recorded data. Could this be because pd is using Asio via Portaudio? Does anyone know how to use pd with Asio without the Portaudio or any other suggestions? ThankÅ½s lot Alexandra -- +++ Neu: Echte DSL-Flatrates von GMX - Surfen ohne Limits +++ Always online ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

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netreceive: how to have parameterized port numbers?
by Mike Wozniewski 04 May '05

04 May '05

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Re: pd open panel in fluxbox
by peter plessas 04 May '05

04 May '05

Hi! Thanks for the many replies! What turned out so far: Chris McCormick: Thanks, i checked the "Remember" option and for the main Pd window it was not set, and for the open dialog it is 'unavailable'. But it must almost be something related to some winmgr preferences, since kde, etc are fine. ChrisK: Will try blackblox too. Common: One more strange observation: After starting Pd, the first dialog window i open (may that be open file...,etc) opens on the correct workspace, but all subsequent windows are put on Wirkspace number ONE. Thanks again for the response, this is not too important, but one of these 'little annoying thingies' :-) P.

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pd open panel in fluxbox
by peter plessas 04 May '05

04 May '05

Dear List, anyone of you having problems too with fluxbox 0.9.11-1 and pd opening its "open file..." dialogs always on workspace 1, regardless of the workspace of the parent pd patch? this seems to be pd-specific. thanks for any suggestions! Peter

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Re: pd open panel in fluxbox
by Chris McCormick 04 May '05

04 May '05

On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 04:36:04AM +0200, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 22:33:12 +0200 > From: peter plessas <plessas(a)sbox.tugraz.at> > Subject: [PD] pd open panel in fluxbox > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Message-ID: <4277E008.9070100(a)sbox.tugraz.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Dear List, > > anyone of you having problems too with fluxbox 0.9.11-1 and pd opening > its "open file..." dialogs always on workspace 1, regardless of the > workspace of the parent pd patch? > > this seems to be pd-specific. > > thanks for any suggestions! Hello Dudes, Fluxbox has this thing called 'remember' which allows you to set certain applications (designated by window title) to always open on specific desktops (other configurable items such as position and dimensions are available too). My prediction is that you have turned on 'remember->workspace' for the Pd open dialogue by accident. I think you can turn it off by right clicking on the title bar of the open dialogue and going down to the remember menu item and turning off 'workspace'. Hope this helps. Best regards, Chris. ------------------- chris(a)mccormick.cx http://mccormick.cx

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SuperCollider control
by Patrick Pagano 04 May '05

04 May '05

Is there a way for SC3 to talk nice to pd on OSX OSC, ? Patrick Pagano, B.S.,M.F.A Research,Development & Production Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082

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