Pd-list May 2005

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compiled externals for windows and OS X
by Orm Finnendahl 02 May '05

02 May '05

Hi all, are there any already compiled externals for Windows and OS X available? I'm especially looking for zexy and ggee's prepend. I don't have any of the machines at hand. Maybe someone can just mail them to me off-list? -- Orm

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with subject this time: install pmpd and ASIO on winxp
by Falk Grieffenhagen.de 02 May '05

02 May '05

Hi List, I just tried to install pd incl gem and pmpd on winxp. I got the installer from hans christoph steiners site used the gem 0.9.0 installer, added the glut.dll and the binaries for pmpd It all seemd to work fine exept 2 things: 1. I´d like to use the Digi001 Audiointerface which has ASIO support, If I select Media/ASIO(via portable) The digidesign drivers will show up but no audio comes out and the system performance will be around 100%. Max for example works beautiful with that driver. 2. the examples of pmpd: Many objects simply lost the connection between each other. If I draw them again the example will work. I saved the startup messages below after opening the pmpd example file 03_chaos2D.pd. All the gem examples are working. There are errors but maybe some of you can read them... Maybe something is wrong with the order of loading. All objects seem to be there even if it says couldn´t create... There might be a font problem too?? thanks for your time Falk C:\Programme\Pure Data>"bin\pd.exe" -font 10 -path "doc\vasp" -lib cyclone -lib iem_t3_lib -lib iem_mp3 -lib mjLib -lib OSC -lib percolate -lib sIgpAck -lib vas p -lib xeq -lib xsample -lib zexy -lib iemlib1 -lib iemlib2 -listdev -l ib pmpd -lib Gem input devices: 1. Yamaha DS1x Native Audio output devices: 0. Yamaha DS1x Native Audio API number 3 input devices: 1. Yamaha PCI, Externes MIDI 2. USB-Audiogerõt 3. USB-Audiogerõt [2] output devices: 0. USB-Audiogerõt 1. USB-Audiogerõt [2] 2. USB-Audiogerõt [3] 3. Yamaha PCI FM-Synthesizer 4. Yamaha PCI, Externes MIDI 5. Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth not using MIDI input (use 'pd -midiindev 1' to override) 12 audio buffers this is cyclone 0.1, 47th alpha build iem_t3_lib (R-1.15) library loaded! iem_mp3 (R-1.15) library loaded! mjLib: can't load library OSCroute object version 1.05 by Matt Wright. pd: jdl Win32 raf. OSCroute Copyright ® 1999 Regents of the University of California. All Rights Re served. O : Open Sound Control 4 PD, http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OSC S : original code by matt wright, pd hakcs cxc, Win32-port raf(a)interaccess.com C: ver: 0.2, compiled: Mar 28 2004 PeRColate: written for Max/MSP by Dan Trueman and R. Luke DuBois PeRColate: ported to PD by Olaf Matthes <olaf.matthes(a)gmx.de> PeRColate: adapted to Linux by Maurizio Umberto Puxeddu <umbpux(a)tin.it> PeRColate: help files ported by Martin Dupras <martin.dupras(a)uwe.ac.uk> PeRColate: version: 0.09 PeRColate: compiled: Apr 4 2003, 15:31:24 PeRColate: home: http://www.akustische-kunst.org/puredata/percolate/ PeRColate: Physical Modeling: plucked~ mandolin~ flute~ bowed~ bowedbar~ PeRColate: clarinet~ brass~ PeRColate: Modal Synthesis: agogo~ marimba~ vibraphone~ PeRColate: PhISM: bamboo~ cabasa~ guiro~ metashake~ sekere~ PeRColate: shaker~ sleigh~ tamb~ wuter~ PeRColate: MaxGens: gen5 gen7 gen9 gen10 gen17 gen24 gen25 PeRColate: SID: absmax~ absmin~ escalator~ flip~ jitter~ PeRColate: klutz~ random~ chase~ terrain~ waffle~ weave~ PeRColate: Random DSP: dcblock~ gQ~ munger~ scrub~ sIgpAck: can't load library ----------------------------------------- VASP modular 0.1.2 vector assembling signal processor (C)2002-2003 Thomas Grill http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net ----------------------------------------- beware! this is xeq 0.1, 2nd beta build... it may bite! ------------------------------- xsample objects, version 0.3.0pre15 xrecord~, xplay~, xgroove~ (C)2001-2003 Thomas Grill ------------------------------- ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥ the zexy external 1.3 ♥ ♥ (l) forum::f³r::umlõute ♥ ♥ compiled: Jun 18 2003 ♥ ♥ send me a 'help' message ♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ iemlib1 (R-1.15) library loaded! iemlib2 (R-1.15) library loaded! pmpd = Physical Modeling for Pure Data version 0.06 compiled Oct 28 2004 Contact : cyrille.henry(a)la-kitchen.fr GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.90 GEM: compiled: Aug 3 2004 GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version on irix/windows) GEM: Chris Clepper (macOS-X) GEM: Daniel Heckenberg (windows) GEM: James Tittle (macOS-X) GEM: IOhannes m zmoelnig (linux/windows) error: "2Qj¯®ñá▼Ü▲§: no such object error: 'ãÿ&ë*®I: no such object error: Nî─ìí0: no such object error: äÔ#º)ò'←+}◄ =î¿FÃ/àºp▬f╔ÿö9RÚªƒË¶äËSÇÔ¤┼↑: no such object error: |¿}^═ëÝ┬ºãÑ↔┬♀§←: no such object error: Åþæç♠¢c6¤▓P¸i│ÆÑ°¸å°Ð└Ó>'C▄M·S:°ÌýÑ└J▄¾Ò#Êrq²█: no such object Falk Grieffenhagen Nordstraße 46 D-40477 Düsseldorf Tel: 0211-4911601 Fax, Voicebox, SMS als e-mail: 0721-151-552636 mobil: 0163-2546194 falk(a)grieffenhagen.de www.grieffenhagen.de

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renaming abstractions
by Lutz Scheulen 02 May '05

02 May '05

hi list, *well, mmh...* couldn't find anything in the archive, so: I have a sound-source wich gets triggered by a sequencer in the form of [tabread arrayname]. By creating a couple of these arrays (pattern_1, pattern_2...) and sending messages to the tabread (set pattern_1, set pattern_2...) I can create a very basic form of 'song-mode'. All arrays are in an abstraction called [song1]. This way I can edit my patterns and save the abstraction as 'song2.pd', 'song3.pd', 'gabbagabbahey.pd', whatever. How can I reload my songs without going into 'edit-mode', clicking on my abstraction and typing the name of the song?? m.f.g. Lutz

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specify the path in a patch
by patrick 02 May '05

02 May '05

hi all, i have a suggestion for pd and maybe i can do it with pwd from ben bogart. so if i have a directory /somestuff with /fx /... i don't have to add those directories for all my other projects (in file -> path). instead i'm just putting a [pd loadbang] with some code that find the path (the part i can do) and add it to pd (the part i can't do). of course, if it's some useful abstractions then i would like to access it everywhere. patrick

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strange behaviour of [msgfile]?
by moritz w. 02 May '05

02 May '05

hi list i found a strange behaviour of zexy's [msgfile]. using the right outlet to [rewind( [msgfile] it self let it skip the second msg after banging. for examle: if the content of [msgfile] is: 1; 2; 3; 4; 5; i get with the 'automated' rewind: 1; 3; 4; 5: i attached a patch to illustrate this problem. the same thing with [textfile] works fine. thats why i assume, the problem could be in [msgfile] itself. greetings moritz -- +++ Neu: Echte DSL-Flatrates von GMX - Surfen ohne Limits +++ Always online ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

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inlet~ & switch~ (a bug?)
by Carlos Pita 02 May '05

02 May '05

Hi! I have noted a strange behaviour when input is taken from an [inlet~] in a subpatch which contains the [switch~] object. The attached patch includes a subpatch with an [osc~]. There is an [inlet] for switching the subpatch on/off and an [inlet~] for passing the frequency of the oscillator (which could be control or audio rate). Note that when you feed the frequency with a [sig~] it works, but when sending [0( and [440( messages it doesn't (of course, disconnect the [sig~] before). Then try deleting the [switch~] in the supatch. Once [switch~] is deleted, the subpatch works both when receiving frequency as messages and when receiving it as an audio stream, which if I'm not wrong is the right behaviour. Is this a bug? Thank you. Regards, Carlos

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[ANN] "Symmetries" premiere recording now available (and other goodies)
by Ivica Ico Bukvic 02 May '05

02 May '05

Greetings all, First off, apologies for cross-posting... I would just like to share the quick-and-dirty downmix of the premiere of my latest work "Symmetries" (that took place at the last-week's "Linux Audio Conference" in Karlsruhe, Germany) with the LAU/LAD as well as Pd community. Without you guys, this piece would never have been possible :-). As my token of gratitude, in conjunction with this release I am also releasing the soundfont that I've built from scratch using exclusively Linux software (Swami, Rezound) and specifically for use in this piece. For more info on each of these please see notes below. As always, your feedback is much appreciated! ------------------- About "Symmetries:" Symmetries (for computer and optional violin) is an experiment in relegating musical structure and expression to the inherently stupid box of transistors. By concurrently utilizing various GNU/Linux audio software (Fluidsynth/QSynth, Pd, LADSPA, Jack-rack, JACK) it was composer's intention to generate a lush interactive texture whose frail balance engenders a consistent forward drive. In an ever-changing array of hierarchical probabilities no two instances are expected to ever be the same. The piece has been designed to be completely modular in terms of computer-driven sound diffusion and can utilize 2-8 channels. For its premiere the piece used 8-channel diffusion. However, the recordings below are provided in a stereo-downmix form. Hardware used in performance was eMachines m6807 laptop (64-bit AMD 3000+), RME HDSP Multiface, and a Peavey 1600x midi controller that I used to control some of the timbral nuances via Pd and Jack-Rack (LADSPA). The violin part was played by Ania Zielinska (Poland) who commissioned the work. ------------------- There are 3 recordings available: 1) 128-bit (fixed rate) 48KHz OGG recording of the premiere: http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/Symmetries_LAC_2005_premiere.ogg (5.8MB) 2) 128-bit 48KHz MP3 recording of the premiere: http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/Symmetries_LAC_2005_premiere.mp3 (6.0MB) 3) 64-bit 44KHz MP3 of the computer part: http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/Symmetries.mp3 (2.8MB) ------------------- The soundfont is a based on series of recordings of solo violin playing straight tone "con sordino" sound. The recordings have been structured in a gigasampler fashion (minor 3rd apart, except for the open strings). It has 2 sets of samples, ones without limiter which have already been mapped, and other with the limiter which are in the soundfont but have not been mapped. The sample tuning has been adjusted "by ear," so it may not be mathematically accurate but FWIW it did pass my own scrutiny (which should be taken with a grain of salt as this piece is not as demanding when it comes to absolute preciseness of the tuning of individual pitches). The looping of sounds is measured to provide most seamless transition while accounting for the change of the direction of the bow. Conceivably one could create a sense of orchestral sordino by layering the same sound over and over. The soundfont does have reverb and chorus abilities enabled but IMHO it sounds the best without any chorus applied to it. The soundfont is released under the "GPL/Artistic 2.0" license (for more info please see: http://dev.perl.org/perl6/rfc/346.html). Btw, I chose the art-related license simply based on my limited understanding that it is more appropriately tailored towards something that is not code-based. That being said, if anyone can explain me the difference between the two licenses, I would really appreciate it :-). To download the soundfont please click here: http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/Linux/violin_sordino.tar.bz2 (21.5MB) NB: Considering that the Linux server that is hosting this may be on its last legs (strange noises from the HD), I would not mind if someone would consider mirroring this particular file. Many thanks! ------------------- Once again, I would like to extend my thanks to the developers and users alike of the open-source, and perhaps more importantly, Linux audio software! Many thanks also go to the organizers of the Linux Audio Conference for making this performance possible! Best wishes, Ivica Ico Bukvic, composer & multimedia sculptor http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/

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Gem OSX Window Weirdness
by timon botez 01 May '05

01 May '05

Hi, did report this earlier, but I seem to have found a workaround. Wanted to share. Im using Gem on a G5. When I work with a single screen I can create and position a window pretty much where ever I like, at a size up to 2400 pix across - bleeding off the monitor. When I connect the second monitor I am only able to create a window in the area within each of the two. Im not able to span the window across the two monitors and it does not support a window as large as above. I receive this error message: GemwinMac: width - 2048 height - 768 Mac: no info.context error: Gem: Unable to create window error: Gem: No window made My work around this problem has been to create the Gem Window before I connect the second display. Then Im able to see the window on the second display. It seems odd. Am I doing something wrong here or is it suppose to behave like this? Thanks, Timon.

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