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flash/pd
by Yves Degoyon 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

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midi input latency with Gem
by Max Neupert 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

hi list, i've used a midi mixer lately in a performance to control some Gem stuff with the faders. Pd seemed to be completely busy handling Gem patch so the midi input got delayed for more than 2 sec. how may I avoid this delay? max

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[OT] event: OpenLab OpenDay
by chun 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

hi all: i hope this may be interesting to some of you that lives in and around london;) cheers chun +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |o|p|e|n|l|a|b|_|o|p|e|n|d|a|y| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ In the past year, openlab has been a self sufficient project driven by like minded people to promote and demonstrate the use of open source free software in the context of real-time audio/visual performance practice. We have organized live performances, workshops, a radio show and various other activities. Of course, we also enjoyed our meetings and drinking beers;) The next openlab event, "openlab openday" will take place on the 11th of December. The nature of this event will be determined by the interests of the participants. For example, if you are around london and are interested, you can write to us and let us know what you like to see happening on the openday. Some ideas that we have are: installfest -> help on installation of linux, fluxus, Pd and its externals, supercollider, and other programs workshop -> demonstration of the software that we use such as fluxus, home brewed applications, Pd and supercollider. Presentation -> showoff your cool project/software. Jam -> bring your box and make noise! All of the above -> bring your box, talk to people, ask questions, make noise and enjoy the chaos we are open for suggestions,you can give us your feedback by email or via the openday wiki. Email: openlab(a)stereocilia.org wiki: http://www.pawfal.org/openlab/index.php?page=OpenDay We hope that this will interest you, we have had a fun year as openlab so far and would like to invite more people to join us. We hope that openday will be a fun celebration of the first anniversary of openlab. The event will be free of charge and will most likely be an all day event. We will prepare tea and coffee as well. Please email us to register (as soon as you can) if you would like to come, so that we can prepare for you accordingly. OpenLab.

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midiout broken
by Jamie Bullock 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

I know someone mentioned this about a week ago, but I just wanted to add myself to the list of people for whom [midiout] is broken. In Miller's version 0.39-1 on Linux, [midiout] works fine with default- MIDI, but when switching over to ALSA-MIDI midiout simply outputs nothing. Does this need to filed as a bug report somewhere? -- Regards, Jamie

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Re: [PD] max msp vs pd
by Chuckk Hubbard 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

> > Subject: Re: [PD] max msp vs pd > To: day 5 <day5ive(a)gmail.com> > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > Message-ID: <437898E2.4080701(a)iem.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed > > day 5 wrote: > > Careful IOhannes! You might offend some of the more canonical members of > > this mailing list!! > > > > but yeah I'd definitely "bang" the younger, prettier sister.... ;D > > > > but otoh, you might offend 99% of the female subscribers to this list, > including me. > > i personally think it is totally off to go into the details of what > might be "bang"ed and what not. > > mf.asdr. > IOhannes Yeah, let's stick to "vertical sliders".

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Re: [PD] max msp vs pd
by daniel kosenko 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

hi list isnt it also about which OS people are comfortable with when making music/video in Pd/Max? as for me, i come from "non-programming environment" too (allaround musician) and discovering Pd/Max caused (forunately) involving into computer as an instrument. When discovering computer, getting OS's to know (windåse/linux/OSeX) i found/find/will still find out that Pd is different on different platforms (unless you are a programmer and you just can). And Max being a luxury lady is still Max, if its on osx or win, it just can. Curiosity found me in linux, where (fortunately) Pd lives. Moving slightly away from newbee, I enjoy "solving problems", and discovering linux as the whole planet of multimedia, where, I personally think, Pd is most playfull. So to you, who posted this many hours ago (sorry, I didnt keep the original message), if you're still reading i want to add, that its not about max vs Pd, its you vs coffee + cookies + lots of time behind the screen to find out what you need to know to find out what you need to know to find out what you need....... "Give me your death, you don't need it, give me your death!" - Sun Ra

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Pd++
by josue moreno 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

Hi all, i just downloaded this compilation(Pd++) for try the new things about Data Structures in 0.39 version(somebody told in the list). Can anybody tell me what is the diference between 0.38 and 0.39? I was thinking that in this version you can put something in the Data Window for know the time and frecuency without drawnumber. And another thing, why in both versions said when i run Pd: IEMLIB cant load library? I want that filters too Thank you for your patience list! " El mutismo aparente de las cosas no es mÃ¡s que la cortÃ©s espera de nuestras preguntas"

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Re: [PD] max msp vs pd
by shreeswifty 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

Hey Chris i am sorry i was not dissing GEM by ANY means. There IS an issue with pdp_iee1394. Jitter is NOT 895 times faster. On Mon Nov 14 18:12:55 EST 2005, chris clepper <cgclepper(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/14/05, shreeswifty <bigswift(a)ufl.edu> wrote: > >> I use pd recently for GEM, pdp, PIDIP an gridflow. It is nice. >> I recently have tried Jitter and it works very well too. I have >> noticed that the same type of patch is a little faster on Jitter >> than on GEM, but i think that is because of a mem leak with >> pdp_ieee1394. > > PDP isn't a part of GEM, and that object is exactly the same > functionality as pix_video from what I recall (the code is copied > line > for line). > > Let me know when Jitter is 895 times faster... > > Patrick Pagano,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082

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midi .smf files in PD
by thewade 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

Hello all, I am wondering if pd can read .mid or .smf MIDI files? I am going to write an abstraction for rhythm and pitch control and I would like to be able to save to and read from files that I can edit and use in other programs like Sonar. Is there a MIDI file tool? (I did see the midifile.c entry on puredata.org, but I want to see if one is included in the CVS PD be default first before I try to compile it) Also, it might be nice to have a couple of help files in the docs directory that lists all the file tools. Lastly, I have some interface questions. 1. Is there a way to set the default font size in PD from the .pdrc file? Every time I load pd i have to open the "font bomb" tool, set font size to 8, and close the tool. 2. Is there a way to disable the "are you sure you want to close this window" dialog? Thank you all, once again! -thewade

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Re: [PD] midi input latency with Gem
by Max Neupert 14 Nov '05

14 Nov '05

you mean, a) it's reacting slowly (with a delay) or just that b) it reacts instantly but not in the right scale of values? is it just when pd is calculating something (in Gem) or do you have the problem all the time? max Am 14.11.2005 um 20:27 schrieb patrick: > i really don't know but moving slider and knob on my controller > result in a > slow change in number box (pd)... hum... > pat > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Max Neupert" <abonnements(a)revolwear.com> > To: "patrick" <patrick(a)11h11.com> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:24 PM > Subject: Re: [PD] midi input latency with Gem > > >> hi patrick! >> >> as you know i am on os x here too. could this midi latency problem be >> os x related? i hope not. >> >> max >> >> >> Am 14.11.2005 um 16:31 schrieb patrick: >> >>> hi max, >>> >>> i have a g4 laptop for 3 weeks. and my too with my uc-33e (midi >>> controller) >>> it's really slow! i don't know why... mac os x??? >>> >>> pat >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Max Neupert" <abonnements(a)revolwear.com> >>> To: "B. Bogart" <ben(a)ekran.org> >>> Cc: <pd-list(a)iem.at> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 8:18 PM >>> Subject: Re: [PD] midi input latency with Gem >>> >>> >>>> i would prefer to still have the gui as i can't set everything via >>>> midi. >>>> what's slow is just the midi input, but i can still set the values >>>> with a slider with more instant effect. >>>> is there anything which affects just the midi input to be delayed? >>>> any other explanations to this phenomenon? >>>> >>>> max >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 13.11.2005 um 22:39 schrieb B. Bogart: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> try -nogui, or maybe your patch is too much for your machine... >>>>> >>>>> Whats the CPU load without doing the MIDI stuff? >>>>> >>>>> b. >>>>> >>>>> Max Neupert wrote: >>>>>> hi list, >>>>>> >>>>>> i've used a midi mixer lately in a performance to control some >>>>>> Gem >>>>>> stuff with the faders. Pd seemed to be completely busy >>>>>> handling Gem >>>>>> patch so the midi input got delayed for more than 2 sec. >>>>>> how may I avoid this delay? >>>>>> >>>>>> max >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >> >>

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