Pd-list November 2005

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Re: [PD] laptop linux
by daniel kosenko 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

hi Ed maybe a litlle shuttle pc or mini PC with a little LCD would fit better in your bag and wallet when you hit the road. best regards daniel . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Kelly" <morph_2016(a)yahoo.co.uk> To: "daniel kosenko" <zvuk(a)linuxmail.org>, "PD List" <pd-list(a)iem.at> Subject: Re: [PD] laptop linux Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 00:40:41 +0000 (GMT) > > Hi Daniel, > > My problem was not really with problems running PD on an 'M', > but with performance. I had an Athlon XP 2600 desktop which died. I > borrowed some money, bought a Pentium M laptop (and anyway, I don't > have a car, so I can do more gigs with this). It's supposed to do > something like twice as many instructions per clock, partly due to > bigger cache memory on the cpu, so I thought equivalent to a 3GHz > P4, but the version of Linux I am using makes it a P3 at the raw > clock speed (1.6GHz)... and that is a drag (although my optimistic > developer self says "why don't you write more efficient patches") > which I will. But.. I will persevere, and test the advice of Frank, > Tim and Yves who say that this is a good computer, and "can do". > > If it is not, I will sell to a stupid stock-market city trader, > and damn the interest rates going up! > > But now...I will sleep! > Best, > Ed > > > daniel kosenko <zvuk(a)linuxmail.org> wrote: > hi list > > im on pentium M (855) too on demudi. no problems so far (unless i > really want them). > and when gfx acceleration is not done in CPU, a good GPU is always > a better investment. > > best regards > daniel . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Barknecht" > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] laptop linux > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:51:47 +0100 > > > > > Hallo, > > Ed Kelly hat gesagt: // Ed Kelly wrote: > > > > > This is kind of embarrasing, and [ot] - I should have trusted my > > > instincts rather than the web...(but which bit?) > > > > > > DON'T buy a Pentium M if you want to run PD under Linux (As I do). > > > If you want a Pentium III (3) you can get one cheaper, but Pentium > > > M under Linux is Pentium 3. > > > > > > I thought it would be nice if newbies could search and find > > > this...to avoid my mistake, and I should know better! > > > > > > Anyone want to buy a pentium M? No graphics accelleration? I am a > > > certified fool!... > > > > Huh? What does all that mean? > > > > I run a Pentium M 750 with great success under Linux and Pd. I think, > > it is a formidable platform. Oh, and graphics acceleration is not done > > in the CPU anyway. > > > > Ciao > > -- > > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > "...A good artist's always got his hand in his zipper." - Patti Smith > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > -> > -> > --> > ---> > -----> > --------> > -------------> r3search + praktik EK5perimenz > > --------------------------------- > How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps > for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos

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Re: [PD] laptop linux
by daniel kosenko 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

hi list im on pentium M (855) too on demudi. no problems so far (unless i really want them). and when gfx acceleration is not done in CPU, a good GPU is always a better investment. best regards daniel . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Barknecht" <fbar(a)footils.org> To: pd-list(a)iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] laptop linux Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:51:47 +0100 > > Hallo, > Ed Kelly hat gesagt: // Ed Kelly wrote: > > > This is kind of embarrasing, and [ot] - I should have trusted my > > instincts rather than the web...(but which bit?) > > > > DON'T buy a Pentium M if you want to run PD under Linux (As I do). > > If you want a Pentium III (3) you can get one cheaper, but Pentium > > M under Linux is Pentium 3. > > > > I thought it would be nice if newbies could search and find > > this...to avoid my mistake, and I should know better! > > > > Anyone want to buy a pentium M? No graphics accelleration? I am a > > certified fool!... > > Huh? What does all that mean? > > I run a Pentium M 750 with great success under Linux and Pd. I think, > it is a formidable platform. Oh, and graphics acceleration is not done > in the CPU anyway. > > Ciao > -- > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list "...A good artist's always got his hand in his zipper." - Patti Smith

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Re: [PD] max msp vs pd
by shreeswifty 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Hi regardless of the issues, flavors or what, i kind of resent the fact that some folks still use the default "install linux" answer when they encounter a bug they are not willing to fix or address. i actually ran linux redhat5-8, debian and fedora cores 1-3. but then sevy's reply was "install gcc x.xx" because of the oppressive Redhat etc.. in other news i cannot get pdp_douchebag to work right either. provocation? no thanks. Patrick Pagano,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082

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distorsion
by wollscheid 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Hi list.... has anyone written (or knows where to find...) a patch that does distorison and allows to vary its parameters? Cheers Achim

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Austin, TX
by Ed Kelly 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

Hey, Anyone in Austin using PD? I'll be there next week. Best, Ed Kelly (PS, sorry Hans, but I promise to visit in the new year(NY)) -> -> --> ---> -----> --------> -------------> r3search + praktik EK5perimenz --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos

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Re: [PD] Laptop linux
by Ed Kelly 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

Thanks guys, I clearly have a lot of work to do, but thanks for your help. I had a few very fearful moments when I thought I had bought a dud! Here's hoping I can get all I want, with the right distro and pdp/pidip rendering. New externs soon. a calmer... Ed -> -> --> ---> -----> --------> -------------> r3search + praktik EK5perimenz --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail

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Re: [PD] midi .smf files in PD
by thewade 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

Thank you all for the help with the midi file issue, or rather the update that there really is no basic midi file tool yet. I will investigate seq in cyclone! In the mean time if someone starts to code, I might suguest that they merge qlist and midifile(in|out) in functionality. For example the midifile tool reads in a midi file like a qlist so that you can rewind, jump to points, insert and delete entries as well as save the file. It might be as easy as starting with the qlist.c file, renaming it and adding .smf and .mid file format serializers. (I say this as if I know what I am talking about...) Anyway, just a suguestion. Thanks again! -thewade

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[Fwd: Re: [PD] laptop linux]
by Yves Degoyon 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

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about data structures
by federico 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

I appreciate recently added datastructs new features. however I think they still miss a big functionality: often, to graphically represent a structure of data, are needed various type of calculations; it is pretty unuseful i.e. draw a polygon with all coordinates referred to 0,0 (object's center). in order to paint a simple adsr struct, in addition to the template, I have to create a "data-controller", which prepares *ALL* points of the adsr-graph (e.g.: x1,y1,x2,y2,....), *NOT* only the a,d,s,r. i guess this feature has been requested many times, but, wouldn't be better have the ability of making additions,subtractions,etc directly inside the drawpolygon declaration? in that case, plotting that adsr line it's just: [drawpolygon 0 900 0 0 a 100 (a+d) s (a+d+100) s (a+d+100+r) 0] what pd developers says about this? -- ciao Federico

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Re: [PD] dsp control GUI object
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

João Miguel Pais wrote: > isn't the direct connection between the dsp-toggle and [f] superfluous? Yes, its just to make the patch more readable. > besides that, quite a handy object, very useful. (I'll just change the > colours for my taste) What color would you think works better for the DSP? I think green means go works well. This object will be part of the help/tutorial style guide, so its good to have it standardized. > by the way, something that would be useful would be a general dac~ > object, that pick up sound directly from the board. That would be a > good complement to this object, and good for general control. (well, > a bit - or a lot - like msp's adoutput~) Yeah, I suppose I could add audio in to it, like Max/MSP's object, but I am not sure that would be the best way to handle that... maybe... .hc > João Miguel Pais > Am 10.11.2005, 19:21 Uhr, schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner > <hans(a)eds.org>: >> >> I just made a nifty little DSP control/display object. I am thinking >> it would be a good thing to include in the style guide for >> help/tutorial patches. >> >> Comments/feedback/vehement disapproval? >> >> .hc >>

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