Hi,
Has anybody tried PD and Gem with OS X Panther? I want to know if PD
will work before i go out and buy the new OS X.
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thats a pretty phat answer!
wow. heh.
forget anything that is useful that might make the project more
friendly, usable and easier to get into.
oh wait, sorry,I guess we all are supposed to be elitist.
heh.
brilliant.
anyone have an actual answer or what?
-dok
On Nov 1, 2003, at 6:34 AM, miso soup wrote:
> forget max
>
> On Saturday, November 1, 2003, at 05:53 AM, doktorp wrote:
>
>> Any exernal, or plan to implement the famous ubumenu from max?
>>
>> any alternatives?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> -dok
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Hi,
Where can a get the source code for GEM objects for OSX?
Thanks,
E.
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Hi ! I am very new to PD, not everything is quite clear in the whole
thing to me, also some errors occur in using it.
I am using macosx 10.2.8 on a ibook 700 (G3) and tcl/TK 8.4 ( i think
it's 8.4.1.). My version of pd is 0.37.
Sometimes pd/gem quits unexpected while performing via "bus error" or
interface problems ( i don't remember the exact shell-output). Why ?
How many times can the same movie of pix_film be connected to different
geometrical objects?
How many movies in general can be handled simultaneous in a setup?
It seems that the tcl/tk-interface is reacting slower and slower over
time using it (creating a window, clicking some sliders, destroying it.
creating it again... etc)?
how does the different things belong together ?
pd : the main language
gem: the graphic extension to pd
pdp ?
pidip ?
zexy ?
freeframe ?
paradiddle: an graphical extension to pd
is that right ? who does the questionmarked things fit in ? How are the
dependencies?
Einen wunderschoenen Tag wuenscht
Andreas
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Hello,
i do not want to unleash a sterile discussion about mac anc pc !
I just would like to know what king of hardware should i buy to install
Linux on a laptop and run PD ?
In terms of performance/price what should i buy a mac or pc ?
Ciao,
Jean Jacques
http://tecfa.unige.ch/perso/staf/duclaux/blog/
Hello,
beside me is a box from Shuttle with a nForce chipset. It features
somehow 5.1 sound and I wounder if its possible to use these channel as
actual ones from PD, either under Linux or WinXP. So far I can only use
2 channels with PD.
Anyway, this barebonesystem seems a decent solution for media
exhibitions, the SN41G2 features apart from the soundcard a ready
installed graphic system with 2 vga outputs, one of them also as
TV/Video out. I managed so far running two instances of PD and GEM on 2
monitors although only one seems to be hardware accelareted. Later I try
to have GEM and Framestein running, maybe GEM takes OpenGL hardware and
Framestein direct x, if anyone interested I can report. I am not related
to these companys and get nothing for the praise but maybe it can be
changed :). This system is rather cheap, has small footprint and looks
beautiful, sort of Apple Cube ripoff in aluminium. I evalute with WinXP
so far, a Mandrakeinstallation failed a bit, refusing to use the onboard
LAN. Right now I am downloading the Knoppix CD to give it a further try.
My goal is to have a decent rig of machines for an upcomming exhibition.
But as a 'private' artist, budget is a concern. I would like to have
some Apple computers around me but they are still to expensive. I
considerd buying some stuff on ebay but prices even for older G3 boxes
went close or higher as the new silver box beside me. Apple seems to be
pretty solid investment. Besides that the midsize tower formfactor is of
course big and so expensive to ship to a remote gallery. In my personal
dreamland Apple Cubes where a big success, wide spread and you can get
them used for 50 bucks.
I see I start babbling :)
So I stop that and wish a nice weekend.
Malte
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Das Kombinat:
27.December Video presentation Ausklangfestival Hoerbar Hamburg, Germany
hi kids,
i'm running pd on windows XP and i'd like to get midi clock in.
does anyone have an example patch for the midirealtimein or midiclkin
objects? do these work? is there any hope for a midiin for windows?
thanks,
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Hello everyone,
I am still trying to use PD with the HDSP 9632 audio card in linux. Everytime I started PD with the card in linux it would not open. I kept getting an audio I/O stuck message when trying to start PD in linux. As suggested I tried it with ALSA and jack with the commands:
pd -alsa
pd-jack
The error read as follows: using non-interleaved audio input
Sample width set to 4 bytes
ALSA: set input channels to 4
snd_pcm_hw_params_set_access (output): Invalid argument
using non-interleaved audio
alsa: set output channels to 4
audio I/O stuck... closing audio
The alsa drivers seem to be loaded correctly during the boot. When given the command: alsasound.start I get a message that the drivers are loaded.
[lspmc@d68h203 lspmc]$ /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound start
ALSA driver already running
Sound driver snd-hdsp is already loaded
I also tried to open both in KDE and the Arts sound server is disabled or unchecked. I am not sure what should be checked in the gnome session equivalent to that of the arts sound. At this point I do not know what else I should check. I also removed `loaded drivers:
[lspmc@d68h203 lspmc]$ pd -oss
pd: exiting
pd: exiting
[lspmc@d68h203 lspmc]$ /sbin/lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
snd-hdsp 48076 0
snd-pcm 87264 0 [snd-hdsp]
snd-page-alloc 9876 0 [snd-hdsp snd-pcm]
snd-hwdep 7104 0 [snd-hdsp]
i810_audio 29048 0
ac97_codec 17224 0 [i810_audio]
i830 74816 1
agpgart 56836 11 (autoclean)
parport_pc 19172 1 (autoclean)
lp 9060 0 (autoclean)
parport 37792 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
snd-seq-midi 5280 0 (unused)
snd-seq-midi-event 6272 0 [snd-seq-midi]
snd-seq 49456 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-midi-event]
snd-rawmidi 19424 0 [snd-hdsp snd-seq-midi]
snd-seq-device 6204 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq snd-rawmidi]
snd-timer 20772 0 [snd-pcm snd-seq]
snd 46980 0 [snd-hdsp snd-pcm snd-hwdep snd-seq-midi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-timer]
soundcore 6660 6 [i810_audio snd]
autofs 13652 0 (autoclean) (unused)
e100 58020 1
ipt_REJECT 4344 6 (autoclean)
iptable_filter 2444 1 (autoclean)
ip_tables 15808 2 [ipt_REJECT iptable_filter]
sg 37804 0 (autoclean)
sr_mod 18168 0 (autoclean)
ide-scsi 12240 0
scsi_mod 109716 3 [sg sr_mod ide-scsi]
ide-cd 36128 0
cdrom 34048 0 [sr_mod ide-cd]
nls_iso8859-1 3516 1 (autoclean)
nls_cp437 5148 1 (autoclean)
vfat 13132 1 (autoclean)
fat 39704 0 (autoclean) [vfat]
keybdev 2976 0 (unused)
mousedev 5620 1
hid 24708 0 (unused)
input 5856 0 [keybdev mousedev hid]
usb-uhci 27372 0 (unused)
ehci-hcd 20808 0 (unused)
usbcore 81152 1 [hid usb-uhci ehci-hcd]
ext3 73444 2
jbd 54228 2 [ext3]
Any help would be appreciated.
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Hi,
I just put up an abstraction for polyphonic scheduling of breakpoint
envelopes here:
http://icem-www.folkwang-hochschule.de/~finnendahl/pd.html
Bare with me if this already exists, I haven't followed the list
lately (I'd like to hear if something like that already exists, maybe
in a better form). Bug reports are welcome.
>From the download page:
"env-gen is a pd abstraction that schedules the breakpoints of
envelopes triggered by events (lists) containing functiontable,
timescale and overall amplitude sent to its inlet. Envelopes are
stored as arbitrary length breakpoint lists (similar to ftables in
csound for example). The scheduler assigns voices to these "breakpoint
envelope generators" and the object sends out lists containing
voicenumber, target value and deltatime at the appropriate times. In
order to get the interpolation done between these breakpoints you can
use line or line~ objects. An example patch is included. The
"maphash" object, "glue" and "niagara" of the zexy library are needed
for the abstraction to work."
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Orm
Ok, so the last thing I wanted to do was start a flame war, and I am
sorry to say that I fanned the flames a bit myself (apologies to Olaf).
But there is a common thread and that is that many of us would love to
make a living working on Pd. But what I think would be very productive
is an honest discussion about how we could do this. There are two
basic ideas: commericializition and strange, newfangled free software
methods.
There are two ways I see of commercializing Pd: making a proprietary
program based on the BSD codebase; or selling free software like
RedHat, SuSe, IBM, etc. do. Personally, I do not think that the
proprietary path would work with Pd for a number of reasons: its a
crowded market space and most of the cheap development gains from it
being free software would be lost (AFAIK, most of the code besides
Miller's is GPL'ed). But I do see some promise in the RedHat-style
packaging and selling of free software. But either way, it would
probably take a lot of capital to get going, and that is the tough
part: we are basically all broke musicians/artists/etc.
Then there are the newfangled free software methods: donations and
bounties for specific projects. There are examples of both of these
working. Donations seem to be flowing more for art/music projects (ie.
the online movie example I gave earlier) and project bounties have a
decently long track record, starting with the FSF being contracted by a
number of CPU makers to port gcc their CPU. Or you could go further
back, to the pre-commercial software days, ie before Microsoft, Apple,
etc., when this was the standard way that software was written.
(Unfortunately the U.S. military was doing the majority of the paying
back then). http://www.sourcesupport.org looks like a well thought out
model.
None of these are guaranteed to work and they all have pitfalls. It
seems to me that the project bounties idea has the lowest cost of
entry, in terms of capital, hours of time needed to set it up, and time
devoted to organizing a fair method of disbursing the money. Also,
there could be all of these things going on at the same time, there is
no reason why that couldn't happen.
.hc
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