Pd-list January 2004

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loadbangs in abstractions created by internal messages don't bang
by David NG McCallum 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

All/miller, I think this problem's been around for a while, but I just noticed it again. So I thought I'd bring it up. If abstractions are placed in a patch by internal messages the loadbangs within them do not bang. And here's an example. Run runme.pd. Cheers, David ps. On WinXP, Pd.37t6 -- . . David McCallum . Music wants to be free . http://sintheta.org . #N canvas 0 0 454 304 10; #X obj 133 121 loadbang; #X obj 132 153 print; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #N canvas 545 133 447 263 10; #X msg 187 31 obj 0 0 banger; #X obj 187 56 s pd-runme.pd; #X text 55 119 Notice that the loadbang within the banger abstraction doesn't send out a bang.; #X text 296 32 <-- Click me.; #X text 95 204 David McCallum \, d(a)mentalfloss.ca; #X connect 0 0 1 0;

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PD and Jack
by Melissa Corso 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

Hello, I am trying to run PD with Jack. I have tried with Linux and keep getting an error message i/o stuck. It was suggested I try to use the HDSP 9632 audio card with jack. However, the error (i/o stuck) still occurs when trying to run Jack. I have not used Jack and I may be starting it incorrectly. If anyone knows what commands I should use in order to get Jack to run with PD it would be greatly appreciated. -Melissa Corso ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005

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Re: [PD] low cost multichannel [4] soundcard for pd on linux?
by Søren Bovbjerg 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

dmotd wrote: > soeren.. > excuse my personal inquiry, but am wondering if you have achieved this > using digital outputs or analog (or a combination of both?).. i have > no digital equipment myself and have been struggling to work out how > to use the rear analog channels independent of the front - making at > least four independent analog channels (FL FR RL RR). > thanks for the advice.. > dmotd. Well, There was no real magic to it. I was using analog outputs only on a Mandrake 8.2 OS some time ago. I used the vanilla kernel drivers (NOT ALSA!) and a standard mixer (like kmixer). The only problem I had was that the front output had to be attenuated ~12dB because it is boosted by the (analog) ac97 mixer. If recall correctly there were some devices in dev called /dsp0 /dsp1 and /dspW which represented the 3 stereo outputs (on a Live 5.1, a non 5.1 model only has the two first stereo devices). I do, however, also recall problems with rear outputs mirroring into the front outputs, but that was way back with older driver versions and was caused by an internal setting in the emu DSP, which was programmable and set to mirror as default. HTH Soeren

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Pd Console (fwd)
by Mathieu Bouchard 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

just to inform you of the existence of this hack of mine. The attachment mentioned below is downloadable at: http://artengine.ca/jmax/gridflow/gallery/pd_console.diff ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:24:52 -0500 (EST) From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju(a)sympatico.ca> To: pd-dev(a)iem.kug.ac.at Subject: Pd Console The attachment on this file is the output of "cvs diff -u" containing my modifications to Pd such that you can do this: pd -console 500 where 500 is the number of scrollback lines you want; this creates a Tk text widget to which post() and [print] are redirected. This is most helpful when you don't have a terminal to launch Pd from, but it's also helpful if you like to have one window less. I submit this for inclusion into the main Pd branch. screenshot: http://artengine.ca/jmax/gridflow/gallery/pd_console.gif Any suggestions? ________________________________________________________________ Mathieu Bouchard http://artengine.ca/matju

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Re: [PD-dev] SourceForge "Donations"
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

Yes, there are many thorny issues to be discussed there, and a personal meeting would be awesome, but that's not going to be possible anytime soon. But I think that a bounties system like this one could work really well. As for getting paid for writing open source software, I think that a lot of people who use Pd would be willing to give money to get the features that they want. Sure anyone could do it themself, but oftentimes its much easier to pay the person that is already deep in it. Also, there are a lot of good coders writing things for Pd, so if someone likes the code that someone is cranking out, paying them would encourage them to crank out more code. All this almost makes me want to get a full time job so I can start paying people!! ;) .hc On Saturday, Jan 24, 2004, at 22:57 America/New_York, Josh Steiner wrote: > i think its a good idea, definitely should be explored. the gnome > project recently (with the help of novel/ximian) setup some "bounties" > which seem like a good way to do this: > > http://www.gnome.org/bounties/ > > another method is that like the freenet project uses: they hire a > fulltime developer paid entirely by donations to a central fund. as i > think olaf pointed out, this requires someone with the power/will to > decide who to hire and how to rate their performance... sounds > somewhat political and sticky. > > -- > ____________________________________________________ > independent u.s. drum'n'bass -- http://vitriolix.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-dev mailing list > PD-dev(a)iem.at > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-dev > ________________________________________________________________________ ____ Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams

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Re: [PD] Re: [PD-dev] SourceForge "Donations"
by shreeswifty 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

The world is not a big communisitc > kibbuz, but rather an (american) slave market. this is inappropriate language. Please revise. Patrick Pagano, B.S.,M.F.A Candidate Research And Development Assistant Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2070

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RE: [PD] Laptop Touchpad
by Matthew Allen 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

I think my wife's gateway has a control panel that lets you switch this behavior. Not sure if the dells come with a similar thing. m. -----Original Message----- From: mark [mailto:mark@junklight.com] I've recently aquired a Dell Laptop and it occurred to me that the touch pad would make a nice input device. However on further investigation using "mousestate" I see that it only outputs deltas (like a real mouse) rather than an absolute position.

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readanysf~ 0.11 crashes PD
by stotz 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

hi, august, list I'm still using pd 0.36 (probably a bad idea) on a debian system. although i succeeded in compiling readanysf~, it crashes PD anytime i create it. i use alsa-drivers and -rt flags. can anyone help me ? should i switch to 0.37 ? thanks oliver ----------------------------------------- sent through klingt.org webmail -----------------------------------------

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Re: [PD] Re: [PD-dev] SourceForge "Donations"
by shreeswifty 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

lol.... thank you much better... Americans did not invent slavery we just re-packaged the sources we got from europe. > From: "shreeswifty" > >> The world is not a big communisitc >> > kibbuz, but rather an (american) slave market. >> >> this is inappropriate language. Please revise. > > oups, did I mix somthing up? i revise. of course the world IS a > big > communistic kibbuz, sorry. and there is no slavery in the US. (it > is > forbidden). > > M. > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.at > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > > Patrick Pagano, B.S.,M.F.A Candidate Research And Development Assistant Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2070

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pdVST
by Al Riley 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

Where can I get pdVST and could someone tell me more about it? Presumably it can transform Pd patches into playable VST instruments - this would be really useful for me. Thanks, Al ________________________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save Â£80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk

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