Hi all,
Using 0.46-7 (latest?)
In I07.phase.vocoder reports "adc~: no method for 'bang'" on the console. See screenshot below.
I do not see in doc/5.reference/adc~_dac~-help.pd any mention of what the inlet to [adc~] is for. I'm tempted to send a numeric value, 0?, 1? etc but it's guesswork.
I had a look at pd-0.46-7/src/d_dac.c, but frankly I don't understand where the inlets are processed.
Any help appreciated!
Thanks, BH
The inlet takes a "set" message to reassign its input channel (this is mentioned in the help window). That's the only message it takes - anything else flags an error.
cheers Miller
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:09:39PM -0500, William Huston wrote:
Hi all,
Using 0.46-7 (latest?)
In I07.phase.vocoder reports "adc~: no method for 'bang'" on the console. See screenshot below.
I do not see in doc/5.reference/adc~_dac~-help.pd any mention of what the inlet to [adc~] is for. I'm tempted to send a numeric value, 0?, 1? etc but it's guesswork.
I had a look at pd-0.46-7/src/d_dac.c, but frankly I don't understand where the inlets are processed.
Any help appreciated!
Thanks, BH
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When I click on the help for [adc~] I get this file:
*pd-0.46-7/doc/5.reference/* *adc~_dac~-help.pd* Here's what it says. (see screenshot below) I'm sorry if I'm missing something.
PS: typo: "numbers out of *rance*"
I checked to see if I copied over something wrong from -extended, and that does not look to be the case. All different file sizes:
Here is the latest vanilla from pd-0.46-7.armv7.tar.gz: (matching adc*) -rw-r--r-- 1 bhuston pi *722 *Sep 9 19:08 pd-0.46-7/doc/5.reference/adc~_dac~-help.pd
Here is from -extended: (matching adc*) -rw-r--r-- 1 root root *5215 *Jan 19 2013 pd-extended/doc/5.reference/adc~_dac~-help.pd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root *6760 *Jan 19 2013 pd-extended/doc/5.reference/adc~-help.pd
I suspect the build for 0.46-7 for the armv7 may be broken, not getting the latest stuff? ....
The patch in question is basically the same from -extended, with one type fixed:
-rw-r--r-- 1 bhuston pi *15570 *Jan 17 2015 pd-0.46-7/doc/3.audio.examples/I07.phase.vocoder.pd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root *15571 *Jan 24 2013 pd-extended/doc/3.audio.examples/I07.phase.vocoder.pd
bhuston@BillPi $ find pd-extended/ pd-0.46-7/ | grep -i I07 | xargs diff 515c515
< same magnitudes and phase precession , althought the phases themselves
same magnitudes and phase precession , although the phases themselves
Thanks,
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
The inlet takes a "set" message to reassign its input channel (this is mentioned in the help window). That's the only message it takes - anything else flags an error.
cheers Miller
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:09:39PM -0500, William Huston wrote:
Hi all,
Using 0.46-7 (latest?)
In I07.phase.vocoder reports "adc~: no method for 'bang'" on the console. See screenshot below.
I do not see in doc/5.reference/adc~_dac~-help.pd any mention of what the inlet to [adc~] is for. I'm tempted to send a numeric value, 0?, 1? etc but it's guesswork.
I had a look at pd-0.46-7/src/d_dac.c, but frankly I don't understand where the inlets are processed.
Any help appreciated!
Thanks, BH
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On 11/14/2015 06:01 AM, William Huston wrote:
When I click on the help for [adc~] I get this file:
*pd-0.46-7/doc/5.reference/* *adc~_dac~-help.pd* Here's what it says. (see screenshot below)
please don't post screenshots of patches. post patches instead (they are *much smaller (e.g. your screnshot takes 119992 bytes, whereas the help-patch takes 1168 bytes); they can be *run* by anybody interested in your problem; they can be inspected on a *lower* level)
I'm sorry if I'm missing something.
it seems like i'm missing something as well, since i don't know now how the help-patch of [adc~] relates to your I07.phase.vocoder problem.
PS: typo: "numbers out of *rance*"
when? what do you do to trigger that message? i did an "rgrep -w rance" over the entire Pd-0.47-git sources and i had no hits.
I suspect the build for 0.46-7 for the armv7 may be broken, not getting the latest stuff? ....
very unlikely.
fgmdst IOhannes
please don't post screenshots of patches.
OK, but I find an image much easier to see the issue immediately.
Low level inspection is an important point if I was submitting *my own patch*. However, we are talking about a common patch which is distributed as part of a release.
Are there people on this list actually concerned about the difference between 1kb vs 120kb?
It seems to me these are days when it is is difficult to find HDD smaller than 1TB (KB>MB>GB>TB =9 orders of magnitude), and most people in developed countries connect to the Internet with broadband cable/fiber/3G+.
i don't know now how the help-patch of [adc~] relates to your I07.phase.vocoder problem.
Because I am responding to Miller's assertion that the inlet to [adc~] is documented:
MP>> The inlet takes a "set" message to reassign its input channel (this is mentioned in the help window).
i did an "rgrep -w rance" over the entire Pd-0.47-git sources and i had
no hits.
That may be the case. Now can you look at what is in the *build* for the latest PD vanilla for ARM and tell me what you see?
Like I stated, I suspect it is a build error.
BH
On Saturday, November 14, 2015, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
On 11/14/2015 06:01 AM, William Huston wrote:
When I click on the help for [adc~] I get this file:
*pd-0.46-7/doc/5.reference/* *adc~_dac~-help.pd* Here's what it says. (see screenshot below)
please don't post screenshots of patches. post patches instead (they are *much smaller (e.g. your screnshot takes 119992 bytes, whereas the help-patch takes 1168 bytes); they can be *run* by anybody interested in your problem; they can be inspected on a *lower* level)
I'm sorry if I'm missing something.
it seems like i'm missing something as well, since i don't know now how the help-patch of [adc~] relates to your I07.phase.vocoder problem.
PS: typo: "numbers out of *rance*"
when? what do you do to trigger that message? i did an "rgrep -w rance" over the entire Pd-0.47-git sources and i had no hits.
I suspect the build for 0.46-7 for the armv7 may be broken, not getting
the
latest stuff? ....
very unlikely.
fgmdst IOhannes
IOhannes--
Please check your grep invocation. There are many hits of "rance" in the source, including all these words:
- occurance (which is actually a spelling mistake!), appearance, France,
entrance, tolerance. *
Here's something which works, and also filters out the bogus hits.
Note also the typo ("rance" should be "range") has been there a long time, as it is also in Pd-0.43.4 ("extended")
$ find pd-extended/ pd-0.46-7/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep rance | egrep -v "(occu|ppea|F|ent|tole)rance"
*pd-extended/extra/vanilla/adc~_dac~-help.pd*:more channels , and channel numbers out of rance will be dropped (dac~) *pd-0.46-7/doc/5.reference/adc~_dac~-help.pd*:more channels , and channel numbers out of rance will be dropped (dac~)
thanks, BH
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 12:56 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
On 11/14/2015 06:01 AM, William Huston wrote:
When I click on the help for [adc~] I get this file:
*pd-0.46-7/doc/5.reference/* *adc~_dac~-help.pd* Here's what it says. (see screenshot below)
please don't post screenshots of patches. post patches instead (they are *much smaller (e.g. your screnshot takes 119992 bytes, whereas the help-patch takes 1168 bytes); they can be *run* by anybody interested in your problem; they can be inspected on a *lower* level)
I'm sorry if I'm missing something.
it seems like i'm missing something as well, since i don't know now how the help-patch of [adc~] relates to your I07.phase.vocoder problem.
PS: typo: "numbers out of *rance*"
when? what do you do to trigger that message? i did an "rgrep -w rance" over the entire Pd-0.47-git sources and i had no hits.
I suspect the build for 0.46-7 for the armv7 may be broken, not getting
the
latest stuff? ....
very unlikely.
fgmdst IOhannes
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On 11/14/2015 09:23 PM, William Huston wrote:
IOhannes--
Please check your grep invocation. There are many hits of "rance" in the source, including all these words:
- occurance (which is actually a spelling mistake!), appearance, France,
entrance, tolerance. *
i used 'rgrep -w rance' which only matches full words.
anyhow, i re-checked with 0.46-7 (not with current master), and indeed there is a typo in a comment.
since i was assuming that you were talking about an actual bug¹, i was totally under the impression that you were talking about an *error message* (printed to the Pd-console) rather than a comment in some help patch.
gfmasdr IOhannes
¹ rather than transcribing the words in the screenshot
Sure enough - my earlier reply was based on the latest version - the new ADC method didn't make it into 0.46, but will appear in 0.47. Sorry for the confusion.
Miller
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 12:01:34AM -0500, William Huston wrote:
When I click on the help for [adc~] I get this file:
*pd-0.46-7/doc/5.reference/* *adc~_dac~-help.pd* Here's what it says. (see screenshot below) I'm sorry if I'm missing something.
PS: typo: "numbers out of *rance*"
I checked to see if I copied over something wrong from -extended, and that does not look to be the case. All different file sizes:
Here is the latest vanilla from pd-0.46-7.armv7.tar.gz: (matching adc*) -rw-r--r-- 1 bhuston pi *722 *Sep 9 19:08 pd-0.46-7/doc/5.reference/adc~_dac~-help.pd
Here is from -extended: (matching adc*) -rw-r--r-- 1 root root *5215 *Jan 19 2013 pd-extended/doc/5.reference/adc~_dac~-help.pd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root *6760 *Jan 19 2013 pd-extended/doc/5.reference/adc~-help.pd
I suspect the build for 0.46-7 for the armv7 may be broken, not getting the latest stuff? ....
The patch in question is basically the same from -extended, with one type fixed:
-rw-r--r-- 1 bhuston pi *15570 *Jan 17 2015 pd-0.46-7/doc/3.audio.examples/I07.phase.vocoder.pd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root *15571 *Jan 24 2013 pd-extended/doc/3.audio.examples/I07.phase.vocoder.pd
bhuston@BillPi $ find pd-extended/ pd-0.46-7/ | grep -i I07 | xargs diff 515c515
< same magnitudes and phase precession , althought the phases themselves
same magnitudes and phase precession , although the phases themselves
Thanks,
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
The inlet takes a "set" message to reassign its input channel (this is mentioned in the help window). That's the only message it takes - anything else flags an error.
cheers Miller
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:09:39PM -0500, William Huston wrote:
Hi all,
Using 0.46-7 (latest?)
In I07.phase.vocoder reports "adc~: no method for 'bang'" on the console. See screenshot below.
I do not see in doc/5.reference/adc~_dac~-help.pd any mention of what the inlet to [adc~] is for. I'm tempted to send a numeric value, 0?, 1? etc but it's guesswork.
I had a look at pd-0.46-7/src/d_dac.c, but frankly I don't understand where the inlets are processed.
Any help appreciated!
Thanks, BH
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Thanks Miller!
And IOhannes for the patch. Will check it out.
On Saturday, November 14, 2015, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
Sure enough - my earlier reply was based on the latest version - the new ADC method didn't make it into 0.46, but will appear in 0.47. Sorry for the confusion.
Miller
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 12:01:34AM -0500, William Huston wrote:
When I click on the help for [adc~] I get this file:
*pd-0.46-7/doc/5.reference/* *adc~_dac~-help.pd* Here's what it says. (see screenshot below) I'm sorry if I'm missing something.
PS: typo: "numbers out of *rance*"
I checked to see if I copied over something wrong from -extended, and
that
does not look to be the case. All different file sizes:
Here is the latest vanilla from pd-0.46-7.armv7.tar.gz: (matching adc*) -rw-r--r-- 1 bhuston pi *722 *Sep 9 19:08 pd-0.46-7/doc/5.reference/adc~_dac~-help.pd
Here is from -extended: (matching adc*) -rw-r--r-- 1 root root *5215 *Jan 19 2013 pd-extended/doc/5.reference/adc~_dac~-help.pd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root *6760 *Jan 19 2013 pd-extended/doc/5.reference/adc~-help.pd
I suspect the build for 0.46-7 for the armv7 may be broken, not getting
the
latest stuff? ....
The patch in question is basically the same from -extended, with one type fixed:
-rw-r--r-- 1 bhuston pi *15570 *Jan 17 2015 pd-0.46-7/doc/3.audio.examples/I07.phase.vocoder.pd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root *15571 *Jan 24 2013 pd-extended/doc/3.audio.examples/I07.phase.vocoder.pd
bhuston@BillPi $ find pd-extended/ pd-0.46-7/ | grep -i I07 | xargs diff 515c515
< same magnitudes and phase precession , althought the phases themselves
same magnitudes and phase precession , although the phases themselves
Thanks,
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
The inlet takes a "set" message to reassign its input channel (this is mentioned in the help window). That's the only message it takes -
anything
else flags an error.
cheers Miller
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:09:39PM -0500, William Huston wrote:
Hi all,
Using 0.46-7 (latest?)
In I07.phase.vocoder reports "adc~: no method for 'bang'" on the console. See screenshot below.
I do not see in doc/5.reference/adc~_dac~-help.pd any mention of what the inlet to [adc~] is for. I'm tempted to send a numeric value, 0?, 1? etc but it's guesswork.
I had a look at pd-0.46-7/src/d_dac.c, but frankly I don't understand where the inlets are processed.
Any help appreciated!
Thanks, BH
--
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On 11/14/2015 05:19 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:
The inlet takes a "set" message to reassign its input channel (this is mentioned in the help window). That's the only message it takes - anything else flags an error.
after wading through william's email, i finally had a closer look at the I07 help patch, and indeed: the first inlet of [pd insample] is (on the outside) driven by a [bng] and (on the inside) is connected to an [adc~ 1] object instead of the [tabwrite~ $0-sample]
attached is a patch that fixes this.
gmasdr IOhannes
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Miller Puckette -
William Huston