hi
is there a way to dynamically set "graph on parent" option in a subpatch or abstraction? i guess the answer is a big no ...
thanks
enrike
IOhannes m zmoelnig(e)k dio:
altern wrote:
hi
is there a way to dynamically set "graph on parent" option in a subpatch or abstraction? i guess the answer is a big no ...
its yes (if you don't care for an official API); please search the list archives for how to do it
mmm... are we talking about the same thing? i already searched the list before sending the mail, and now i was looking for it for two hours. i searched the list over and over again and also the documentation and examples in pd extended. I discovered few nice things about the PD widgets i did not know before, but not what i am looking for...
enrike
IOhannes m zmoelnig(e)k dio:
altern wrote:
hi
is there a way to dynamically set "graph on parent" option in a subpatch or abstraction? i guess the answer is a big no ...
its yes (if you don't care for an official API); please search the list archives for how to do it
do you mean something like this? http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-05/028394.html
i was looking for something more like a proper flag in the object that could be switch on and off, like |pd-mysubpatch gop 1( or something like that...
enrike
Hallo, altern hat gesagt: // altern wrote:
do you mean something like this? http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-05/028394.html
i was looking for something more like a proper flag in the object that could be switch on and off, like |pd-mysubpatch gop 1( or something like that...
Something like that isn't available, so "donecanvasdialog 0 0 $1" is the only way. Don't rely to much on it to stay, though.
Ciao
Frank
Frank Barknecht(e)k dio:
Hallo, altern hat gesagt: // altern wrote:
do you mean something like this? http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-05/028394.html
i was looking for something more like a proper flag in the object that could be switch on and off, like |pd-mysubpatch gop 1( or something like that...
Something like that isn't available, so "donecanvasdialog 0 0 $1" is the only way. Don't rely to much on it to stay, though.
i see. it would be nice to have something like |pd-mysubpatch gop 1( though...
enrike
altern wrote:
Frank Barknecht(e)k dio:
Hallo, altern hat gesagt: // altern wrote:
do you mean something like this? http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-05/028394.html
i was looking for something more like a proper flag in the object that
i think this _is_ a very proper flag to be switched on/off
could be switch on and off, like |pd-mysubpatch gop 1( or something like that...
Something like that isn't available, so "donecanvasdialog 0 0 $1" is the only way. Don't rely to much on it to stay, though.
i think you can ignore these warnings in many cases. they are a way of saying that "this is not officially supported". none(!) of the dynamic patching features of Pd is officially supported. so either don't use them or do use them.
i see. it would be nice to have something like |pd-mysubpatch gop 1( though...
i still don't see the difference. (of course one could always argue that [readsf~] should take a [load( message rather than an [open( message)
if you want to turn on gop you will most likely want to set the properties of gop in the same message. this is what donecanvasdialog is for.
fgmasdr IOhannes
IOhannes m zmoelnig(e)k dio:
altern wrote:
Frank Barknecht(e)k dio:
Hallo, altern hat gesagt: // altern wrote:
do you mean something like this? http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-05/028394.html
i was looking for something more like a proper flag in the object that
i think this _is_ a very proper flag to be switched on/off
i mean i was looking for an specific command to only switch on/off the graph on parent box. But then you are right of course, this feature does more, but my first idea misleaded me when searching the list for info. i was looking in not exactly the right direction...
could be switch on and off, like |pd-mysubpatch gop 1( or something like that...
Something like that isn't available, so "donecanvasdialog 0 0 $1" is the only way. Don't rely to much on it to stay, though.
i think you can ignore these warnings in many cases. they are a way of saying that "this is not officially supported". none(!) of the dynamic patching features of Pd is officially supported. so either don't use them or do use them.
i see. it would be nice to have something like |pd-mysubpatch gop 1( though...
i still don't see the difference. (of course one could always argue that [readsf~] should take a [load( message rather than an [open( message)
if you want to turn on gop you will most likely want to set the properties of gop in the same message. this is what donecanvasdialog is for.
yes i understand it now. thanks for your patience :)
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:40:49PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, altern hat gesagt: // altern wrote:
do you mean something like this? http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-05/028394.html
i was looking for something more like a proper flag in the object that could be switch on and off, like |pd-mysubpatch gop 1( or something like that...
Something like that isn't available, so "donecanvasdialog 0 0 $1" is the only way. Don't rely to much on it to stay, though.
Also, it sets the "dirty" flag on your patch, so you can't really use it in abstractions, which is very annoying since it's stops us doing really cool dynamically resizing GOP abstractions. Unless you don't mind re-saving your abstractions every time you use them (bleh). This is a great pity since it is almost possible to do really cool stuff like hide complicated parts of your subpatches with a toggle button. Oh well.
Chris.
Chris McCormick wrote:
Also, it sets the "dirty" flag on your patch, so you can't really use it in abstractions, which is very annoying since it's stops us doing really cool dynamically resizing GOP abstractions. Unless you don't mind re-saving your abstractions every time you use them (bleh). T
hmm, you don't have to save your abstractions/patches after you have changed them :-)
esp. if i have a "final" patch dedicated for a performance (series), i would probably not want to save this patch after a performance where i eventually set the dirty flag by whatever action (assuming that i don't have another way to restore the original patch)
fmgssdr IOhannes
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:44:11AM +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Chris McCormick wrote:
Also, it sets the "dirty" flag on your patch, so you can't really use it in abstractions, which is very annoying since it's stops us doing really cool dynamically resizing GOP abstractions. Unless you don't mind re-saving your abstractions every time you use them (bleh). T
hmm, you don't have to save your abstractions/patches after you have changed them :-)
esp. if i have a "final" patch dedicated for a performance (series), i would probably not want to save this patch after a performance where i eventually set the dirty flag by whatever action (assuming that i don't have another way to restore the original patch)
That's true, but it's still annoying to be asked, especially if you accidentally do save it.
Chris.
On Nov 14, 2008, at 5:23 AM, Chris McCormick wrote:
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:40:49PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, altern hat gesagt: // altern wrote:
do you mean something like this? http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-05/028394.html
i was looking for something more like a proper flag in the object
that could be switch on and off, like |pd-mysubpatch gop 1( or something like that...Something like that isn't available, so "donecanvasdialog 0 0 $1"
is the only way. Don't rely to much on it to stay, though.Also, it sets the "dirty" flag on your patch, so you can't really
use it in abstractions, which is very annoying since it's stops us doing
really cool dynamically resizing GOP abstractions. Unless you don't mind re-saving your abstractions every time you use them (bleh). This is a great pity since it is almost possible to do really cool stuff like
hide complicated parts of your subpatches with a toggle button. Oh well.
Add a feature request. I think it makes sense to have a separate
message from donecanvasdialog since that message is meant for the
GUI, sets the dirty flag, etc.
.hc
Chris.
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I am looking at the same question - how to allocate engines dynamically. I can build large polyphonic structures quite easily now, although it would be nice to have this on a nother thread so PD didn't go into meltdown when a build a 12x12 sample matrix for instance.
But, what would also be nice as a feature request would be to resize the GOP window dynamically. Then I could have an alogrithmic builder system with fewer separate objects,
I'll find a way around it though. Those who've been checking this thread - if you can make it to France next week then get to the makeart festival in Poitiers. I'm unveiling my new system there. Saturday I think...
Ed x
On Nov 14, 2008, at 5:23 AM, Chris McCormick wrote:
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:40:49PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, altern hat gesagt: // altern wrote:
do you mean something like this? http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-05/028394.html
i was looking for something more like a proper flag in the object
that could be switch on and off, like |pd-mysubpatch gop 1( or something like that...Something like that isn't available, so "donecanvasdialog 0 0 $1"
is the only way. Don't rely to much on it to stay, though.Also, it sets the "dirty" flag on your patch, so you can't really
use it in abstractions, which is very annoying since it's stops us doing
really cool dynamically resizing GOP abstractions. Unless you don't mind re-saving your abstractions every time you use them (bleh). This is a great pity since it is almost possible to do really cool stuff like
hide complicated parts of your subpatches with a toggle button. Oh well.
Add a feature request. I think it makes sense to have a separate
message from donecanvasdialog since that message is meant for the
GUI, sets the dirty flag, etc.
.hc
Chris.
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exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an
idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps
it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into
the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess
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