Sorry about the bad subject. Don't post too regularly and not sure the best way to reply to a thread here. Guess it's just reply, change subject, delete irrelevant parts of the thread. I do appreciate your patience and continued conversation.
An even better feature would be to hover over an outlet and see the connected inlets and/or cables highlighted. I generally make neat patches that are easy to follow, but even with neat patches there can be a lot of crossed cables. I imagine implementing this would be even more difficult. Is Pd's GUI kept really simple because it's difficult to implement new features or because it's important to keep a low impact on the cpu?
IOhannes, I didn't even know you could connect an inlet-outlet pair twice. What is the effect? Does it send the data twice at control rate and does is it additive with signals?
Sam
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hi.
it would be super-cool if you could change the subject to something meaningful before replying to a digest mail.
On 2/10/22 14:39, Samuel Burt wrote:
Having used Pd for two decades, this still catches me occasionally. I was
that's the reason why i think that statements like "Fanning out to cold control inlets is perfectly fine" and "I also admit to using fanning when I know order isn't as important for that case" are problematic. not because they are wrong (they are objectively correct), but because they encourage bad habits which are hard to come by.
only able to debug the problem because I knew this could be an issue.
Guess
the UI doesn't allow for some kind of subtle indication that you've
fanned
connections from an outlet. Would be nice though if a little "x2", "x3", and "x4" would pop up next to your mouse cursor when you are making a connection and mouse over the next inlet.
dunno. if you are currently creating a fan-out you are hopefully aware that you are doing just that (i think it's *really* hard to not notice that an outlet already has a connection going out). so the problem is not to make people aware that they are fanning out, but to make people aware that this might introduce message ordering problems.
in the meantime, use triggerize (Ctrl+a Ctrl+t) to resolve all your fan-outs.
gfmkdf IOhannes