Hi all, I'm working for a long time to solve the multiple bangs that sometimes I throw some devices, I tested debounce, edge, but I can not control the multiplicity of bangs or Toogle, I can retard or miss one, send it to the right ( edge) but I can not control multiple bangs or toggle. Any ideas?
Best regards
José
I need receive only one bang of these multiples, the first...
Best to alls
José
2010/11/12 Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuato76@gmail.com
Hi all, I'm working for a long time to solve the multiple bangs that sometimes I throw some devices, I tested debounce, edge, but I can not control the multiplicity of bangs or Toogle, I can retard or miss one, send it to the right ( edge) but I can not control multiple bangs or toggle. Any ideas?
Best regards
José
-- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato
why do debounce does not work? c
Le 12/11/2010 21:47, Jose Luis Santorcuato a écrit :
I need receive only one bang of these multiples, the first...
Best to alls
José
2010/11/12 Jose Luis Santorcuato <santorcuato76@gmail.com mailto:santorcuato76@gmail.com>
Hi all, I'm working for a long time to solve the multiple bangs that sometimes I throw some devices, I tested debounce, edge, but I can not control the multiplicity of bangs or Toogle, I can retard or miss one, send it to the right ( edge) but I can not control multiple bangs or toggle. Any ideas? Best regards José -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato-- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote:
Hi all, I'm working for a long time to solve the multiple bangs that sometimes I throw some devices, I tested debounce, edge, but I can not control the multiplicity of bangs or Toogle, I can retard or miss one, send it to the right ( edge) but I can not control multiple bangs or toggle. Any ideas?
use a [f] with a [metro] to make a steady stream of 0 and 1 values. Then make a low-pass filter by combining [+] [* 0.9] and [* 0.1] so that the output of the filter is 10 % of the current input plus 90 % of the previous input. Then use a threshold such as [>= 0.5].
You can control the intensity of the debounce by changing the constants 0.9 and 0.1 as long as they add up to 1 and that both are positive. You can also change the speed of the [metro].
| Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC
Hi Cyrille and Mathieu, debounce (IMHE) only retards (delay) the multiples bangs in particular time(, I need to receive only one and locks, no more bangs, then you can reactivate such a delay, so you can return to a zero point and repeat a sequence, video or sound and does not occur jumpcut.
Thanks again friends
José Escuchar Leer fonéticamente
2010/11/12 Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote:
Hi all, I'm working for a long time to solve the multiple bangs that
sometimes I throw some devices, I tested debounce, edge, but I can not control the multiplicity of bangs or Toogle, I can retard or miss one, send it to the right ( edge) but I can not control multiple bangs or toggle. Any ideas?
use a [f] with a [metro] to make a steady stream of 0 and 1 values. Then make a low-pass filter by combining [+] [* 0.9] and [* 0.1] so that the output of the filter is 10 % of the current input plus 90 % of the previous input. Then use a threshold such as [>= 0.5].
You can control the intensity of the debounce by changing the constants 0.9 and 0.1 as long as they add up to 1 and that both are positive. You can also change the speed of the [metro].
| Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC
hello,
there is probably many debounce in there. the one i write for the mapping (and puremapping) lib does not retard any bang. it either pass it or not. the delay reactivated itself only if no bang is received ont he input during the specified time. i think that's what you need.
if you want to manually reset the delay, you can use onshot.
but maybe i still not understand your need.
cyrille
Le 13/11/2010 02:06, Jose Luis Santorcuato a écrit :
Hi Cyrille and Mathieu, debounce (IMHE) only retards (delay) the multiples bangs in particular time(, I need to receive only one and locks, no more bangs, then you can reactivate such a delay, so you can return to a zero point and repeat a sequence, video or sound and does not occur jumpcut.
Thanks again friends
José Escuchar Leer fonéticamente
2010/11/12 Mathieu Bouchard <matju@artengine.ca mailto:matju@artengine.ca>
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Hi all, I'm working for a long time to solve the multiple bangs that sometimes I throw some devices, I tested debounce, edge, but I can not control the multiplicity of bangs or Toogle, I can retard or miss one, send it to the right ( edge) but I can not control multiple bangs or toggle. Any ideas? use a [f] with a [metro] to make a steady stream of 0 and 1 values. Then make a low-pass filter by combining [+] [* 0.9] and [* 0.1] so that the output of the filter is 10 % of the current input plus 90 % of the previous input. Then use a threshold such as [>= 0.5]. You can control the intensity of the debounce by changing the constants 0.9 and 0.1 as long as they add up to 1 and that both are positive. You can also change the speed of the [metro]. _______________________________________________________________________ | Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC-- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote:
Hi Cyrille and Mathieu, debounce (IMHE) only retards (delay) the multiples bangs in particular time(, I need to receive only one and locks, no more bangs, then you can reactivate such a delay, so you can return to a zero point and repeat a sequence, video or sound and does not occur jumpcut.
The solution I offered is destined to filter a hardware toggle, for example, such that a clean stream of toggle values can be produced from it. If you use it to filter a bang-like hardware button (that still has a 0 or 1 output) you need to retune my formulas with different numbers.
But what I proposed is just one way of doing things. I gave this solution because it can work for both the case of a hardware toggle and a hardware bang.
After that, converting 0,1 into pd bangs is a matter of [change]-[sel 1].
There are other solutions in the case that what you have is really a sequence of bangs at first (and not a sequence of 0,1 values that you happened to convert to bangs).
| Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC
Or...
[bang( | | /-----[0( [spigot 1] | |\ | | -------------| | |
...or am I missing something? Metastudio 4 for Pure Data - coming soon! Metastudio 3 still available at http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata
----- Original Message ---- From: Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca To: Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuato76@gmail.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at; cyrille henry ch@chnry.net Sent: Sat, 13 November, 2010 17:58:28 Subject: Re: [PD] Multiples toogles and bangs
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote:
Hi Cyrille and Mathieu, debounce (IMHE) only retards (delay) the multiples bangs in particular time(, I need to receive only one and locks, no more bangs, then you can reactivate such a delay, so you can return to a zero point and repeat a sequence, video or sound and does not occur jumpcut.
The solution I offered is destined to filter a hardware toggle, for example, such that a clean stream of toggle values can be produced from it. If you use it to filter a bang-like hardware button (that still has a 0 or 1 output) you need to retune my formulas with different numbers.
But what I proposed is just one way of doing things. I gave this solution because it can work for both the case of a hardware toggle and a hardware bang.
After that, converting 0,1 into pd bangs is a matter of [change]-[sel 1].
There are other solutions in the case that what you have is really a sequence of bangs at first (and not a sequence of 0,1 values that you happened to convert to bangs).
| Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC
Hi Ed... i miss you!... hahaha, thanks tomorrow i will check all the solutions
Best regards again friends
José
2010/11/13 Ed Kelly morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk
Or...
[bang( | | /-----[0( [spigot 1] | |\ | | -------------| | |
...or am I missing something? Metastudio 4 for Pure Data - coming soon! Metastudio 3 still available at http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata
----- Original Message ---- From: Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca To: Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuato76@gmail.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at; cyrille henry ch@chnry.net Sent: Sat, 13 November, 2010 17:58:28 Subject: Re: [PD] Multiples toogles and bangs
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote:
Hi Cyrille and Mathieu, debounce (IMHE) only retards (delay) the
multiples
bangs in particular time(, I need to receive only one and locks, no more
bangs,
then you can reactivate such a delay, so you can return to a zero point
and
repeat a sequence, video or sound and does not occur jumpcut.
The solution I offered is destined to filter a hardware toggle, for example, such that a clean stream of toggle values can be produced from it. If you use it to filter a bang-like hardware button (that still has a 0 or 1 output) you need to retune my formulas with different numbers.
But what I proposed is just one way of doing things. I gave this solution because it can work for both the case of a hardware toggle and a hardware bang.
After that, converting 0,1 into pd bangs is a matter of [change]-[sel 1].
There are other solutions in the case that what you have is really a sequence of bangs at first (and not a sequence of 0,1 values that you happened to convert to bangs).
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Thanks, all suggest works... maybe i make a one trigger tutorial...hahaha.
Thanks a lot brothers
José
2010/11/15 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at
On 2010-11-14 03:26, Ed Kelly wrote:
Or...
[bang( | | /-----[0( [spigot 1] | |\ | | -------------| | |
...or am I missing something?
yes, a [trigger].
fgmasr IOhannes
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hola Jose,
something like [oneshot] ?
saludos Mirko
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuato76@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Cyrille and Mathieu, debounce (IMHE) only retards (delay) the multiples bangs in particular time(, I need to receive only one and locks, no more bangs, then you can reactivate such a delay, so you can return to a zero point and repeat a sequence, video or sound and does not occur jumpcut.
Thanks again friends
José Escuchar Leer fonéticamente
Yes, but one shot lock all the nexts bangs...wrong?
Saludos de acá Mirko!
José
2010/11/12 Mirko Petrovich mirko.petrovich@gmail.com
hola Jose,
something like [oneshot] ?
saludos Mirko
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuato76@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Cyrille and Mathieu, debounce (IMHE) only retards (delay) the
multiples
bangs in particular time(, I need to receive only one and locks, no more bangs, then you can reactivate such a delay, so you can return to a zero point and repeat a sequence, video or sound and does not occur jumpcut.
Thanks again friends
José Escuchar Leer fonéticamente
I think like a sequence, i dont like a jumpcut, only bang, only event, if are many bangs only receive the first, others lock after the event end, and then activate again.
Regards
José
2010/11/12 Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuato76@gmail.com
Yes, but one shot lock all the nexts bangs...wrong?
Saludos de acá Mirko!
José
2010/11/12 Mirko Petrovich mirko.petrovich@gmail.com
hola Jose,
something like [oneshot] ?
saludos Mirko
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuato76@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Cyrille and Mathieu, debounce (IMHE) only retards (delay) the
multiples
bangs in particular time(, I need to receive only one and locks, no more bangs, then you can reactivate such a delay, so you can return to a zero point and repeat a sequence, video or sound and does not occur jumpcut.
Thanks again friends
José Escuchar Leer fonéticamente
-- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato
When the events grow...
BR
José
2010/11/12 Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuato76@gmail.com
I think like a sequence, i dont like a jumpcut, only bang, only event, if are many bangs only receive the first, others lock after the event end, and then activate again.
Regards
José
2010/11/12 Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuato76@gmail.com
Yes, but one shot lock all the nexts bangs...wrong?
Saludos de acá Mirko!
José
2010/11/12 Mirko Petrovich mirko.petrovich@gmail.com
hola Jose,
something like [oneshot] ?
saludos Mirko
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuato76@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Cyrille and Mathieu, debounce (IMHE) only retards (delay) the
multiples
bangs in particular time(, I need to receive only one and locks, no
more
bangs, then you can reactivate such a delay, so you can return to a
zero
point and repeat a sequence, video or sound and does not occur jumpcut.
Thanks again friends
José Escuchar Leer fonéticamente
-- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato
-- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato
Yes, work, just need adjust the right inlet... thanks Mirko!, really...
Best regards list
José
2010/11/12 Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuato76@gmail.com
When the events grow...
BR
José
2010/11/12 Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuato76@gmail.com
I think like a sequence, i dont like a jumpcut, only bang, only event, if are many bangs only receive the first, others lock after the event end, and then activate again.
Regards
José
2010/11/12 Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuato76@gmail.com
Yes, but one shot lock all the nexts bangs...wrong?
Saludos de acá Mirko!
José
2010/11/12 Mirko Petrovich mirko.petrovich@gmail.com
hola Jose,
something like [oneshot] ?
saludos Mirko
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuato76@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Cyrille and Mathieu, debounce (IMHE) only retards (delay) the
multiples
bangs in particular time(, I need to receive only one and locks, no
more
bangs, then you can reactivate such a delay, so you can return to a
zero
point and repeat a sequence, video or sound and does not occur
jumpcut.
Thanks again friends
José Escuchar Leer fonéticamente
-- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato
-- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato
-- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote:
I think like a sequence, i dont like a jumpcut,
I don't understand what you mean.
only bang, only event, if are many bangs only receive the first, others lock after the event end, and then activate again.
then you want a [oneshot]x[delay] ?
| Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC
I think about narrative, one sound, one image...one video...a sensor that does not effect jumpcut traditional film, if I press a sensor that always throws an, an jumput, printing the same frame or sound, ta-ka-ta-ta 1111111111111111111.
Best regards and thanks to all! this list is amazing
Jose (the snorer?)
2010/11/13 Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote:
I think like a sequence, i dont like a jumpcut,
I don't understand what you mean.
only bang, only event, if are many bangs only receive the first, others
lock after the event end, and then activate again.
then you want a [oneshot]x[delay] ?
| Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC
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