Hi list,
for simple read/get/save operation, are there are advantages on using [text define] instead of [textfile]?
Best,
jmmmp
[text define] is basically a more powerful and flexible replacement for [textfile] and [qlist]. I would only use [textfile] if you prefer the simpler interface or need the [add2( method. Personally, I only use [text define].
Christof
On 06.02.2021 14:28, João Pais wrote:
Hi list,
for simple read/get/save operation, are there are advantages on using [text define] instead of [textfile]?
Best,
jmmmp
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It is surely overall more powerful. But when using it just for read/get whole lines/save, are there any concrete advantages?
[text define] is basically a more powerful and flexible replacement for [textfile] and [qlist]. I would only use [textfile] if you prefer the simpler interface or need the [add2( method. Personally, I only use [text define].
Christof
On 06.02.2021 14:28, João Pais wrote:
Hi list,
for simple read/get/save operation, are there are advantages on using [text define] instead of [textfile]?
Best,
jmmmp
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are there any concrete advantages?
What's the advantage of having two different objects for the same job? If you like [textfile] for its simple interface, keep using it. I'm just saying that it's more or less obsolete.
On 06.02.2021 16:38, João Pais wrote:
It is surely overall more powerful. But when using it just for read/get whole lines/save, are there any concrete advantages?
[text define] is basically a more powerful and flexible replacement for [textfile] and [qlist]. I would only use [textfile] if you prefer the simpler interface or need the [add2( method. Personally, I only use [text define].
Christof
On 06.02.2021 14:28, João Pais wrote:
Hi list,
for simple read/get/save operation, are there are advantages on using [text define] instead of [textfile]?
Best,
jmmmp
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I guess the advantage is if it runs faster or not, right?
Em sáb., 6 de fev. de 2021 às 18:03, Christof Ressi info@christofressi.com escreveu:
are there any concrete advantages?
What's the advantage of having two different objects for the same job? If you like [textfile] for its simple interface, keep using it. I'm just saying that it's more or less obsolete.
On 06.02.2021 16:38, João Pais wrote:
It is surely overall more powerful. But when using it just for read/get whole lines/save, are there any concrete advantages?
[text define] is basically a more powerful and flexible replacement for [textfile] and [qlist]. I would only use [textfile] if you prefer the simpler interface or need the [add2( method. Personally, I only use [text define].
Christof
On 06.02.2021 14:28, João Pais wrote:
Hi list,
for simple read/get/save operation, are there are advantages on using [text define] instead of [textfile]?
Best,
jmmmp
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They all operate on binbufs internally, so there shouldn't be a significant performance difference.
On 06.02.2021 23:18, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
I guess the advantage is if it runs faster or not, right?
Em sáb., 6 de fev. de 2021 às 18:03, Christof Ressi <info@christofressi.com mailto:info@christofressi.com> escreveu:
> are there any concrete advantages? What's the advantage of having two different objects for the same job? If you like [textfile] for its simple interface, keep using it. I'm just saying that it's more or less obsolete. On 06.02.2021 16:38, João Pais wrote: > It is surely overall more powerful. But when using it just for > read/get whole lines/save, are there any concrete advantages? > > >> [text define] is basically a more powerful and flexible replacement >> for [textfile] and [qlist]. I would only use [textfile] if you prefer >> the simpler interface or need the [add2( method. Personally, I only >> use [text define]. >> >> Christof >> >> On 06.02.2021 14:28, João Pais wrote: >>> Hi list, >>> >>> for simple read/get/save operation, are there are advantages on >>> using [text define] instead of [textfile]? >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> jmmmp >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list>
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On 06/02/21 23:28, Christof Ressi wrote:
They all operate on binbufs internally, so there shouldn't be a significant performance difference.
For certain scenarios I find the -k flag for [text define] useful as it allows you to save the contents (keep it) with the patch. This (having some data embedded in the patch vs. in an external text file), might be desirable or not, but it's defintely a nice to have the option and AFIK [textfile] deosn't have this kind of option.
Personally I also like it that you can have different objects which clearly do different things like 'define', 'get', 'insert', 'size', 'tolist' instead of having to look at messages attached to them... Maybe because I've been playing with pseudo-random MIDI generation lately, but this is really a very subjective preference :-)
Lorenzo.
On 06.02.2021 23:18, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
I guess the advantage is if it runs faster or not, right?
Em sáb., 6 de fev. de 2021 às 18:03, Christof Ressi <info@christofressi.com mailto:info@christofressi.com> escreveu:
> are there any concrete advantages? What's the advantage of having two different objects for the same job? If you like [textfile] for its simple interface, keep using it. I'm just saying that it's more or less obsolete. On 06.02.2021 16:38, João Pais wrote: > It is surely overall more powerful. But when using it just for > read/get whole lines/save, are there any concrete advantages? > > >> [text define] is basically a more powerful and flexible replacement >> for [textfile] and [qlist]. I would only use [textfile] if you prefer >> the simpler interface or need the [add2( method. Personally, I only >> use [text define]. >> >> Christof >> >> On 06.02.2021 14:28, João Pais wrote: >>> Hi list, >>> >>> for simple read/get/save operation, are there are advantages on >>> using [text define] instead of [textfile]? >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> jmmmp >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list <https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list>
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+1 in heaping praise on [text] and its comrades: albeit a bit slow with growing size, it allows for loads of data manipulation in a very flexible way.
hans
Am 08.02.2021 um 09:57 schrieb Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com:
On 06/02/21 23:28, Christof Ressi wrote:
They all operate on binbufs internally, so there shouldn't be a significant performance difference.
For certain scenarios I find the -k flag for [text define] useful as it allows you to save the contents (keep it) with the patch. This (having some data embedded in the patch vs. in an external text file), might be desirable or not, but it's defintely a nice to have the option and AFIK [textfile] deosn't have this kind of option.
Personally I also like it that you can have different objects which clearly do different things like 'define', 'get', 'insert', 'size', 'tolist' instead of having to look at messages attached to them... Maybe because I've been playing with pseudo-random MIDI generation lately, but this is really a very subjective preference :-)
Lorenzo.
On 06.02.2021 23:18, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
I guess the advantage is if it runs faster or not, right?
Em sáb., 6 de fev. de 2021 às 18:03, Christof Ressi <info@christofressi.com mailto:info@christofressi.com> escreveu:
are there any concrete advantages?
What's the advantage of having two different objects for the same job? If you like [textfile] for its simple interface, keep using it. I'm just saying that it's more or less obsolete.
On 06.02.2021 16:38, João Pais wrote:
It is surely overall more powerful. But when using it just for read/get whole lines/save, are there any concrete advantages?
[text define] is basically a more powerful and flexible
replacement
for [textfile] and [qlist]. I would only use [textfile] if you
prefer
the simpler interface or need the [add2( method. Personally, I
only
use [text define].
Christof
On 06.02.2021 14:28, João Pais wrote:
Hi list,
for simple read/get/save operation, are there are advantages on using [text define] instead of [textfile]?
Best,
jmmmp
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