Hey folks,
I got my head around the CSS editing of PLONE. I can do the CSS job, the only downside is that it has to be done with Plone in development mode. This apparently would slow down the site a bit.
However, fact is, if we modify a css class, this will affect the whole website.
How should we handle this? Voting for the best style, collecting ideas, or....
I can join Chris and send over some styles I've been trying. It would be great to give a better look, at least to the extent that the css allows.
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.comwrote:
Hi Chris,
I'm glad you did that. It is what I'm also doing following the discussion in the past week about the website. However, apparently it's a pain to be able to change only the css in the plone template. I'm looking into that, if somebody is more experienced than me in Plone, give me a shout!
But, yes, your is a good example of how the same website could look much friendlier.
talk soon, M
On 03/06/2012 10:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
The one thing I miss is the news section.
Yeah for sure.
It's probably a little too heavy for the frontpage, but how has webpd
progressed?
Is it possible to link that picture of a patch on the frontpage to a
page with a webpd
version of that patch?
Yes but it almost certainly won't run and WebPd has no GUI. :)
Maybe a simpler patch could work.
Cheers,
Chris.
this is what I'm working on, started with the exhibition page, but it could be generalized. I only added now the background pattern of the ubuntu website, following on the ubuntu font by chris.
This is only CSS editing, but I had to delete the navigation tab on the top from the html. I say so, because apparently it's "easy" to edit the plone css custom theme, but edit the structure might be more painful.
Next I want to display images for each project and a slightly longer description.
attached there's a screenshot..
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.comwrote:
Hey folks,
I got my head around the CSS editing of PLONE. I can do the CSS job, the only downside is that it has to be done with Plone in development mode. This apparently would slow down the site a bit.
However, fact is, if we modify a css class, this will affect the whole website.
How should we handle this? Voting for the best style, collecting ideas, or....
I can join Chris and send over some styles I've been trying. It would be great to give a better look, at least to the extent that the css allows.
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.comwrote:
Hi Chris,
I'm glad you did that. It is what I'm also doing following the discussion in the past week about the website. However, apparently it's a pain to be able to change only the css in the plone template. I'm looking into that, if somebody is more experienced than me in Plone, give me a shout!
But, yes, your is a good example of how the same website could look much friendlier.
talk soon, M
On 03/06/2012 10:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
The one thing I miss is the news section.
Yeah for sure.
It's probably a little too heavy for the frontpage, but how has webpd
progressed?
Is it possible to link that picture of a patch on the frontpage to a
page with a webpd
version of that patch?
Yes but it almost certainly won't run and WebPd has no GUI. :)
Maybe a simpler patch could work.
Cheers,
Chris.
-- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
Also looks like a big improvement. I think whoever is actually going to do the work should make the final call on how it will look, but with community input, of course :-). Posting screenshots sounds like a nice way to review the possibilities, if people are up for generating them.
.hc
On Mar 6, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
this is what I'm working on, started with the exhibition page, but it could be generalized. I only added now the background pattern of the ubuntu website, following on the ubuntu font by chris.
This is only CSS editing, but I had to delete the navigation tab on the top from the html. I say so, because apparently it's "easy" to edit the plone css custom theme, but edit the structure might be more painful.
Next I want to display images for each project and a slightly longer description.
attached there's a screenshot..
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote: Hey folks,
I got my head around the CSS editing of PLONE. I can do the CSS job, the only downside is that it has to be done with Plone in development mode. This apparently would slow down the site a bit.
However, fact is, if we modify a css class, this will affect the whole website.
How should we handle this? Voting for the best style, collecting ideas, or....
I can join Chris and send over some styles I've been trying. It would be great to give a better look, at least to the extent that the css allows.
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote: Hi Chris,
I'm glad you did that. It is what I'm also doing following the discussion in the past week about the website. However, apparently it's a pain to be able to change only the css in the plone template. I'm looking into that, if somebody is more experienced than me in Plone, give me a shout!
But, yes, your is a good example of how the same website could look much friendlier.
talk soon, M
On 03/06/2012 10:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
The one thing I miss is the news section.
Yeah for sure.
It's probably a little too heavy for the frontpage, but how has webpd progressed?
Is it possible to link that picture of a patch on the frontpage to a page with a webpd
version of that patch?
Yes but it almost certainly won't run and WebPd has no GUI. :)
Maybe a simpler patch could work.
Cheers,
Chris.
-- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UKPortfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net <pd-info_styled.png>_______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Hi Marco,
Love it!
A couple of ideas (bike shed opinions only of course):
- Larger fonts look friendlier.
- How many people have ever clicked the print/email icons? My guess is
somewhere close to zero.
- RSS icon should look like one, and maybe bigger.
- Like the idea of a big fat download button (example attached but
don't use it as it's not mine).
Kind of hilarious to imagine how users will feel after finding Pd through a lovely friendly pure-data.info site and then being confronted with Pd's blank canvas and then lines-and-boxes for the first time. ;)
Cheers,
Chris.
On 03/07/2012 07:57 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
this is what I'm working on, started with the exhibition page, but it could be generalized. I only added now the background pattern of the ubuntu website, following on the ubuntu font by chris.
This is only CSS editing, but I had to delete the navigation tab on the top from the html. I say so, because apparently it's "easy" to edit the plone css custom theme, but edit the structure might be more painful.
Next I want to display images for each project and a slightly longer description.
attached there's a screenshot..
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Marco Donnarumma <devel@thesaddj.com mailto:devel@thesaddj.com> wrote:
Hey folks, I got my head around the CSS editing of PLONE. I can do the CSS job, the only downside is that it has to be done with Plone in development mode. This apparently would slow down the site a bit. However, fact is, if we modify a css class, this will affect the whole website. How should we handle this? Voting for the best style, collecting ideas, or.... I can join Chris and send over some styles I've been trying. It would be great to give a better look, at least to the extent that the css allows. M On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Marco Donnarumma <devel@thesaddj.com <mailto:devel@thesaddj.com>> wrote: Hi Chris, I'm glad you did that. It is what I'm also doing following the discussion in the past week about the website. However, apparently it's a pain to be able to change only the css in the plone template. I'm looking into that, if somebody is more experienced than me in Plone, give me a shout! But, yes, your is a good example of how the same website could look much friendlier. talk soon, M On 03/06/2012 10:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > The one thing I miss is the news section. Yeah for sure. > It's probably a little too heavy for the frontpage, but how has webpd progressed? > > Is it possible to link that picture of a patch on the frontpage to a page with a webpd > > version of that patch? Yes but it almost certainly won't run and WebPd has no GUI. :) Maybe a simpler patch could work. Cheers, Chris. -- http://mccormick.cx/ -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/> Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com <http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/> | http://www.thesaddj.com <http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://www.flxer.net <http://www.flxer.net/> Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net <http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/>-- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/> Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com <http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/> | http://www.thesaddj.com <http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://www.flxer.net <http://www.flxer.net/> Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net <http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/>
Hello,
This layout is much better than the exisiting one. It should be applied to the complete website and not only to the exhibition section (but I think that's what you implied).
these comments are for the whole website:
- I think we don't need the "site map / accessibility / contact" div as
well.
- Maybe a prettiest title bar should be nice ( with a patch screenshot
or something)
- One problem I think, is also the width of the left column, when we
click on a section, there is often two lines fr a folder, maybe it should be increase.
- Maybe we may simplify the footer as well?
If you want to test your css on other computer before to apply, don't hesitate to send (maybe on the pdweb list)
Good job, cool! n
Le 07/03/12 07:55, Chris McCormick a écrit :
Hi Marco,
Love it!
A couple of ideas (bike shed opinions only of course):
- Larger fonts look friendlier.
- How many people have ever clicked the print/email icons? My guess
is somewhere close to zero.
- RSS icon should look like one, and maybe bigger.
- Like the idea of a big fat download button (example attached but
don't use it as it's not mine).
Kind of hilarious to imagine how users will feel after finding Pd through a lovely friendly pure-data.info site and then being confronted with Pd's blank canvas and then lines-and-boxes for the first time. ;)
Cheers,
Chris.
On 03/07/2012 07:57 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
this is what I'm working on, started with the exhibition page, but it could be generalized. I only added now the background pattern of the ubuntu website, following on the ubuntu font by chris.
This is only CSS editing, but I had to delete the navigation tab on the top from the html. I say so, because apparently it's "easy" to edit the plone css custom theme, but edit the structure might be more painful.
Next I want to display images for each project and a slightly longer description.
attached there's a screenshot..
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Marco Donnarumma <devel@thesaddj.com mailto:devel@thesaddj.com> wrote:
Hey folks, I got my head around the CSS editing of PLONE. I can do the CSS job, the only downside is that it has to be done with Plone in development mode. This apparently would slow down the site a bit. However, fact is, if we modify a css class, this will affect the whole website. How should we handle this? Voting for the best style, collecting ideas, or.... I can join Chris and send over some styles I've been trying. It would be great to give a better look, at least to the extent that the css allows. M On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Marco Donnarumma<devel@thesaddj.com mailto:devel@thesaddj.com> wrote:
Hi Chris, I'm glad you did that. It is what I'm also doing following the discussion in the past week about the website. However, apparently it's a pain to be able to change only the css in the plone template. I'm looking into that, if somebody is more experienced than me in Plone, give me a shout! But, yes, your is a good example of how the same website could look much friendlier. talk soon, M On 03/06/2012 10:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:The one thing I miss is the news section.
Yeah for sure.It's probably a little too heavy for the frontpage, but
how has webpd progressed?Is it possible to link that picture of a patch on the
frontpage to a page with a webpdversion of that patch?
Yes but it almost certainly won't run and WebPd has noGUI. :)
Maybe a simpler patch could work. Cheers, Chris. -- http://mccormick.cx/ -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/> Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.comhttp://res.marcodonnarumma.com/ | http://www.thesaddj.com http://www.thesaddj.com/ | http://www.flxer.net http://www.flxer.net/ Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/
-- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/> Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com <http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/> | http://www.thesaddj.com <http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://www.flxer.net <http://www.flxer.net/> Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net <http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/>
Thanks guys, glad you like it.
I'm taking note of all your considerations. I'll make a css style for you to try out.
Is there a straight forward way to save the css I'm creating with firebug? I mean, something other than copy pasting each class I edit.
Most importantly, I can do the job during this week, but since next week will be travelling again. So, I don't want to rush people, but...
I can do it now, surfing the growing interest, or let it die for a while again.. I'd rather the first option.
what ppl think?
@chris: I also thought the same, but Pd is getting "smoother" too :) maybe it's a good timing.
M
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Nicolas Montgermont < nicolas_montgermont@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Hello,
This layout is much better than the exisiting one. It should be applied to the complete website and not only to the exhibition section (but I think that's what you implied).
these comments are for the whole website:
- I think we don't need the "site map / accessibility / contact" div as
well.
- Maybe a prettiest title bar should be nice ( with a patch screenshot or
something)
- One problem I think, is also the width of the left column, when we click
on a section, there is often two lines fr a folder, maybe it should be increase.
- Maybe we may simplify the footer as well?
If you want to test your css on other computer before to apply, don't hesitate to send (maybe on the pdweb list)
Good job, cool! n
Le 07/03/12 07:55, Chris McCormick a écrit :
Hi Marco,
Love it!
A couple of ideas (bike shed opinions only of course):
- Larger fonts look friendlier.
- How many people have ever clicked the print/email icons? My guess is
somewhere close to zero.
- RSS icon should look like one, and maybe bigger.
- Like the idea of a big fat download button (example attached but don't
use it as it's not mine).
Kind of hilarious to imagine how users will feel after finding Pd through a lovely friendly pure-data.info site and then being confronted with Pd's blank canvas and then lines-and-boxes for the first time. ;)
Cheers,
Chris.
On 03/07/2012 07:57 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
this is what I'm working on, started with the exhibition page, but it could be generalized. I only added now the background pattern of the ubuntu website, following on the ubuntu font by chris.
This is only CSS editing, but I had to delete the navigation tab on the top from the html. I say so, because apparently it's "easy" to edit the plone css custom theme, but edit the structure might be more painful.
Next I want to display images for each project and a slightly longer description.
attached there's a screenshot..
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Marco Donnarumma <devel@thesaddj.com mailto:devel@thesaddj.com> wrote:
Hey folks,
I got my head around the CSS editing of PLONE. I can do the CSS job, the only downside is that it has to be done with Plone in development mode. This apparently would slow down the site a bit.
However, fact is, if we modify a css class, this will affect the whole website.
How should we handle this? Voting for the best style, collecting ideas, or....
I can join Chris and send over some styles I've been trying. It would be great to give a better look, at least to the extent that the css allows.
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Marco Donnarumma <devel@thesaddj.com mailto:devel@thesaddj.com> wrote:
Hi Chris, I'm glad you did that. It is what I'm also doing following the discussion in the past week about the website. However, apparently it's a pain to be able to change only the css in the plone template. I'm looking into that, if somebody is more experienced than me in Plone, give me a shout! But, yes, your is a good example of how the same website could look much friendlier. talk soon, M On 03/06/2012 10:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:The one thing I miss is the news section.
Yeah for sure.It's probably a little too heavy for the frontpage, but
how has webpd progressed?Is it possible to link that picture of a patch on the
frontpage to a page with a webpdversion of that patch?
Yes but it almost certainly won't run and WebPd has no GUI. :) Maybe a simpler patch could work. Cheers, Chris. -- http://mccormick.cx/-- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/> Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com <http://res.marcodonnarumma.**com/ <http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/>> | http://www.thesaddj.com <http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://www.flxer.net <http://www.flxer.net/ > Director: http://www.**liveperformersmeeting.net<http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net> <http://www.**liveperformersmeeting.net/<http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/> >
Hi Marco, +1 on taking this.
On 07/03/12 11:46, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
...
Is there a straight forward way to save the css I'm creating with firebug? I mean, something other than copy pasting each class I edit.
Maybe this: http://www.incaseofstairs.com/firediff/
...
what ppl think?
A couple comments/suggestions:
- I agree that base font size could be slightly bigger.
- Personally I would leave the background white even in the header I
think it reminds more of the white "clean" Pd canvas (which personally I find nice, in a way inspiring and actually a Pd asset)
- Nice Screenshots in the front page. 100% if possible (I think Chris
already suggested this)
This is not strictly related to the CSS, but may fit with a 'restyling'. Maybe it would be cool to have directly from puredata.info some media created with Pd, not sure if in the exhibition section or in it's own 'media' section. I guess it would be ok to add stuff embedded from popular media sites (be it audio, video, image) or submitted by users.
Lorenzo.
hello
can i put a suggestion in for "fixed width" rather than "stretched"? "fixed" will retain all the design elements and text nicely.... stretched just looks sloppy to me.
thanks! m
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote:
this is what I'm working on, started with the exhibition page, but it could be generalized. I only added now the background pattern of the ubuntu website, following on the ubuntu font by chris.
This is only CSS editing, but I had to delete the navigation tab on the top from the html. I say so, because apparently it's "easy" to edit the plone css custom theme, but edit the structure might be more painful.
Next I want to display images for each project and a slightly longer description.
attached there's a screenshot..
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote:
Hey folks,
I got my head around the CSS editing of PLONE. I can do the CSS job, the only downside is that it has to be done with Plone in development mode. This apparently would slow down the site a bit.
However, fact is, if we modify a css class, this will affect the whole website.
How should we handle this? Voting for the best style, collecting ideas, or....
I can join Chris and send over some styles I've been trying. It would be great to give a better look, at least to the extent that the css allows.
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote:
Hi Chris,
I'm glad you did that. It is what I'm also doing following the discussion in the past week about the website. However, apparently it's a pain to be able to change only the css in the plone template. I'm looking into that, if somebody is more experienced than me in Plone, give me a shout!
But, yes, your is a good example of how the same website could look much friendlier.
talk soon, M
On 03/06/2012 10:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
The one thing I miss is the news section.
Yeah for sure.
It's probably a little too heavy for the frontpage, but how has webpd progressed?
>
Is it possible to link that picture of a patch on the frontpage to a page with a webpd
version of that patch?
Yes but it almost certainly won't run and WebPd has no GUI. :)
Maybe a simpler patch could work.
Cheers,
Chris.
-- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net-- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
agree!!
should we stick to margin: 0 auto, so to center it, or people is more left/ish? on my website the width is 720px and centered, which I find a good compromise for both laptop and mobile browsers.
thoughts?
M
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:45 PM, m.e.grimm megrimm@gmail.com wrote:
hello
can i put a suggestion in for "fixed width" rather than "stretched"? "fixed" will retain all the design elements and text nicely.... stretched just looks sloppy to me.
thanks! m
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote:
this is what I'm working on, started with the exhibition page, but it
could
be generalized. I only added now the background pattern of the ubuntu website, following
on
the ubuntu font by chris.
This is only CSS editing, but I had to delete the navigation tab on the
top
from the html. I say so, because apparently it's "easy" to edit the plone css custom
theme,
but edit the structure might be more painful.
Next I want to display images for each project and a slightly longer description.
attached there's a screenshot..
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote:
Hey folks,
I got my head around the CSS editing of PLONE. I can do the CSS job, the only downside is that it has to be done with Plone in development mode. This apparently would slow down the site a bit.
However, fact is, if we modify a css class, this will affect the whole website.
How should we handle this? Voting for the best style, collecting ideas, or....
I can join Chris and send over some styles I've been trying. It would be great to give a better look, at least to the extent that the css allows.
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote:
Hi Chris,
I'm glad you did that. It is what I'm also doing following the discussion in the past week
about
the website. However, apparently it's a pain to be able to change only the css in
the
plone template. I'm looking into that, if somebody is more experienced than me in
Plone,
give me a shout!
But, yes, your is a good example of how the same website could look
much
friendlier.
talk soon, M
On 03/06/2012 10:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
The one thing I miss is the news section.
Yeah for sure.
It's probably a little too heavy for the frontpage, but how has
webpd
progressed?
Is it possible to link that picture of a patch on the frontpage to a page with a webpd
version of that patch?
Yes but it almost certainly won't run and WebPd has no GUI. :)
Maybe a simpler patch could work.
Cheers,
Chris.
-- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com |Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
-- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com |Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
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I agree with Marco, 720px is usually a good in-between, to make it perfect for ALL mobile only really by doing a mobile version.
I prefer left-alignment usually (call me left wing maybe!), but that's really a matter of personal taste. Probably center alignment is more overall matching.
best, pedro
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote:
agree!!
should we stick to margin: 0 auto, so to center it, or people is more left/ish? on my website the width is 720px and centered, which I find a good compromise for both laptop and mobile browsers.
thoughts?
M
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:45 PM, m.e.grimm megrimm@gmail.com wrote:
hello
can i put a suggestion in for "fixed width" rather than "stretched"? "fixed" will retain all the design elements and text nicely.... stretched just looks sloppy to me.
thanks! m
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote:
this is what I'm working on, started with the exhibition page, but it
could
be generalized. I only added now the background pattern of the ubuntu website,
following on
the ubuntu font by chris.
This is only CSS editing, but I had to delete the navigation tab on the
top
from the html. I say so, because apparently it's "easy" to edit the plone css custom
theme,
but edit the structure might be more painful.
Next I want to display images for each project and a slightly longer description.
attached there's a screenshot..
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote:
Hey folks,
I got my head around the CSS editing of PLONE. I can do the CSS job, the only downside is that it has to be done with Plone in development mode. This apparently would slow down the site a bit.
However, fact is, if we modify a css class, this will affect the whole website.
How should we handle this? Voting for the best style, collecting ideas, or....
I can join Chris and send over some styles I've been trying. It would be great to give a better look, at least to the extent that
the
css allows.
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote:
Hi Chris,
I'm glad you did that. It is what I'm also doing following the discussion in the past week
about
the website. However, apparently it's a pain to be able to change only the css in
the
plone template. I'm looking into that, if somebody is more experienced than me in
Plone,
give me a shout!
But, yes, your is a good example of how the same website could look
much
friendlier.
talk soon, M
On 03/06/2012 10:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > The one thing I miss is the news section.
Yeah for sure.
> It's probably a little too heavy for the frontpage, but how has
webpd
> progressed? > > Is it possible to link that picture of a patch on the frontpage to
a
> page with a webpd > > version of that patch?
Yes but it almost certainly won't run and WebPd has no GUI. :)
Maybe a simpler patch could work.
Cheers,
Chris.
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On 07/03/12 14:27, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
agree!!
should we stick to margin: 0 auto, so to center it, or people is more left/ish?
I think if you keep the menu on the left, left is better.
on my website the width is 720px and centered, which I find a good compromise for both laptop and mobile browsers.
thoughts?
M
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:45 PM, m.e.grimm <megrimm@gmail.com mailto:megrimm@gmail.com> wrote:
hello can i put a suggestion in for "fixed width" rather than "stretched"? "fixed" will retain all the design elements and text nicely.... stretched just looks sloppy to me. thanks! m On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Marco Donnarumma <devel@thesaddj.com <mailto:devel@thesaddj.com>> wrote: > this is what I'm working on, started with the exhibition page, but it could > be generalized. > I only added now the background pattern of the ubuntu website, following on > the ubuntu font by chris. > > This is only CSS editing, but I had to delete the navigation tab on the top > from the html. > I say so, because apparently it's "easy" to edit the plone css custom theme, > but edit the structure might be more painful. > > Next I want to display images for each project and a slightly longer > description. > > attached there's a screenshot.. > > M > > > > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Marco Donnarumma <devel@thesaddj.com <mailto:devel@thesaddj.com>> > wrote: >> >> Hey folks, >> >> I got my head around the CSS editing of PLONE. >> I can do the CSS job, the only downside is that it has to be done with >> Plone in development mode. >> This apparently would slow down the site a bit. >> >> However, fact is, if we modify a css class, this will affect the whole >> website. >> >> How should we handle this? >> Voting for the best style, collecting ideas, or.... >> >> I can join Chris and send over some styles I've been trying. >> It would be great to give a better look, at least to the extent that the >> css allows. >> >> M >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Marco Donnarumma <devel@thesaddj.com <mailto:devel@thesaddj.com>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Chris, >>> >>> I'm glad you did that. >>> It is what I'm also doing following the discussion in the past week about >>> the website. >>> However, apparently it's a pain to be able to change only the css in the >>> plone template. >>> I'm looking into that, if somebody is more experienced than me in Plone, >>> give me a shout! >>> >>> But, yes, your is a good example of how the same website could look much >>> friendlier. >>> >>> talk soon, >>> M >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 03/06/2012 10:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>>> > The one thing I miss is the news section. >>>> >>>> Yeah for sure. >>>> >>>> > It's probably a little too heavy for the frontpage, but how has webpd >>>> > progressed? >>>> > >>>> > Is it possible to link that picture of a patch on the frontpage to a >>>> > page with a webpd >>>> > >>>> > version of that patch? >>>> >>>> Yes but it almost certainly won't run and WebPd has no GUI. :) >>>> >>>> Maybe a simpler patch could work. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://mccormick.cx/ >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Marco Donnarumma >> New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. >> ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) >> The University of Edinburgh, UK >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com >> >> Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net >> Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net > > > > > -- > Marco Donnarumma > New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. > ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) > The University of Edinburgh, UK > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com > Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net > Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@iem.at> mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- ____________________ m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megrimm@gmail.com <mailto:megrimm@gmail.com> _________________________________-- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
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Hi Marco,
- i love the dotted background
- the bottom icon bar (iem-powered etc) is oldschool and shall go
- we may not need the accessibility link but some people do
- a bit afraid that fixed width may be a problem on some mobiles. btw: are
there some web stats for puredata.info that have screen size statistics?
2 cents, András
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 14:39, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.comwrote:
On 07/03/12 14:27, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
agree!!
should we stick to margin: 0 auto, so to center it, or people is more left/ish?
I think if you keep the menu on the left, left is better.
on my website the width is 720px and centered, which I find a good
compromise for both laptop and mobile browsers.
thoughts?
M
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:45 PM, m.e.grimm <megrimm@gmail.com mailto: megrimm@gmail.com> wrote:
hello
can i put a suggestion in for "fixed width" rather than "stretched"? "fixed" will retain all the design elements and text nicely.... stretched just looks sloppy to me.
thanks! m
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Marco Donnarumma <devel@thesaddj.com mailto:devel@thesaddj.com> wrote:
this is what I'm working on, started with the exhibition page,
but it could
be generalized. I only added now the background pattern of the ubuntu website,
following on
the ubuntu font by chris.
This is only CSS editing, but I had to delete the navigation tab
on the top
from the html. I say so, because apparently it's "easy" to edit the plone css
custom theme,
but edit the structure might be more painful.
Next I want to display images for each project and a slightly longer description.
attached there's a screenshot..
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Marco Donnarumma
<devel@thesaddj.com mailto:devel@thesaddj.com>
wrote:
Hey folks,
I got my head around the CSS editing of PLONE. I can do the CSS job, the only downside is that it has to be
done with
Plone in development mode. This apparently would slow down the site a bit.
However, fact is, if we modify a css class, this will affect
the whole
website.
How should we handle this? Voting for the best style, collecting ideas, or....
I can join Chris and send over some styles I've been trying. It would be great to give a better look, at least to the extent
that the
css allows.
M
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Marco Donnarumma
<devel@thesaddj.com mailto:devel@thesaddj.com>
wrote:
Hi Chris,
I'm glad you did that. It is what I'm also doing following the discussion in the past
week about
the website. However, apparently it's a pain to be able to change only the
css in the
plone template. I'm looking into that, if somebody is more experienced than me
in Plone,
give me a shout!
But, yes, your is a good example of how the same website could
look much
friendlier.
talk soon, M
On 03/06/2012 10:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > The one thing I miss is the news section.
Yeah for sure.
> It's probably a little too heavy for the frontpage, but how
has webpd
> progressed? > > Is it possible to link that picture of a patch on the
frontpage to a
> page with a webpd > > version of that patch?
Yes but it almost certainly won't run and WebPd has no GUI. :)
Maybe a simpler patch could work.
Cheers,
Chris.
-- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com |http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net
Director: http://www.**liveperformersmeeting.nethttp://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
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Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com |http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net
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