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- Re: Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare? (Jonathan Wilkes)
- Re: video of Pd Workshop for 11 year olds (errordeveloper@gmail.com)
- Re: mp3cast~ on ubuntu 9.10 crash pd (IOhannes m zmoelnig)
- Re: video of Pd Workshop for 11 year olds (Lorenzo)
- Re: video of Pd Workshop for 11 year olds (Andrew Faraday)
- Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare? (saint)
- Re: video of Pd Workshop for 11 year olds (Pedro Oliveira)
Message: 1 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:26:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare? To: quietdidit@gmail.com, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 376196.72041.qm@web65616.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote:
From: Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare? To: quietdidit@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 11:16 AM
As many other said before, I personally think there is nothing to compare. All of them are quite separate environments, and i mean not only computing capabilities, flexibility and GUI, but above all each community supporting the projects.
"this" is not better than "that", it's only about what fit best your needs. So first point out which are exactly your needs. Learning Pd can be difficult and exhausting in the beg, but once you get familiar with it, I can assure you it's only pleasure. And there is a world of things you can't do with any other software. But you have to find out what.
Hi Marco, What do you think makes learning Pd difficult and exhausting in the beginning? Is it just a general learning curve, or are there speficic issues you think could be improved for the future?
-Jonathan
Message: 2 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:38:37 +0000 From: errordeveloper@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] video of Pd Workshop for 11 year olds To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 20100318043837.GB10132@00110101.home Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hans, that's excellent!
i was quite curious how kids could react to pd .. hm ..i'd love to do some pd tutorials one day, and yeah i was thinking about kids as well!
the only thing is that i couldn't check the video - i still don't have sound working in flash with my soundcard setup ;(
may be you have the video somewhere else? abby/cclive doesn't support blip.tv and i tried videosnag.com ..but it didn't do anything ..
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:56:00PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Here's a video of a Pd workshop I taught with 11 year old kids in New
York.
It was amazing how they picked it up and had so little fear to
experiment:
http://eyebeam.org/press/media/videos/an-introduction-to-electronic-soundsca...
.hc
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Message: 3 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:22:05 +0100 From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] mp3cast~ on ubuntu 9.10 crash pd To: Nicolas Montgermont nicolas_montgermont@yahoo.fr Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 4BA1E2AD.8060601@iem.at Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"
On 2010-03-17 20:53, Nicolas Montgermont wrote:
I tried to compile it from the svn. I manage to build the pd_linux (removing the -Werror flag) but the object is still crashing pd when connecting to the server... here is the log of the compilation, does anyone got an idea? thanks in advance:
could you try to produce a run it in a debugger (gdb), and broduce a backtrace, like:
$ gdb pd -stderr mp3cast~-test.pd (gdb) run ... (gdb) backtrace ...
fgmasdr IOhannes