I have heard rumors from various sources that Cycling 74 may change the pricing scheme of Max to include a limited version for free. If true, what does this mean for Pd?
Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
maybe that Pd is getting into Cycling market?
2010/9/20 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com
I have heard rumors from various sources that Cycling 74 may change the pricing scheme of Max to include a limited version for free. If true, what does this mean for Pd?
Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
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:D I'm looking forward to the days of an official libpd ...
On Sep 20, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Ricardo Lameiro wrote:
maybe that Pd is getting into Cycling market?
2010/9/20 Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com I have heard rumors from various sources that Cycling 74 may change the pricing scheme of Max to include a limited version for free. If true, what does this mean for Pd?
Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, Dan Wilcox wrote:
I have heard rumors from various sources that Cycling 74 may change the pricing scheme of Max to include a limited version for free.
there's already a limited version for free since years ago.
If true, what does this mean for Pd?
nothing.
| Mathieu Bouchard ------------------------------ Villeray, Montréal, QC
I guess it means that those non-GNU/linux users who only use Pd because it's free-as-in-beer would be able to choose between Pd and this light-beer-version of Max. But from what I know of free beer aficionados, they seem quite comfortable downloading warez to get full versions of commercial software, which-- judging from a quick search of pirate bay-- seems already to be the case with Max. So I don't think this possibility would change the relationship between Max and Pd very much, if at all. (Though I'm sure it would change the way non-warez-seekerz try out Max, though this depends on exactly what limitations the free-beer version would have.)
The only substantial thing I can think of that would cause a change in the relationship between Max and Pd is if Cycling 74 did something like release a new version of Max under the X11 License. (Or if they did like Juce and sold commercial licenses on an individual basis.)
-Jonathan
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I've never really used Max, so doesn't mean much to me. Whatever
floats their boat :). I don't really see it as a competition.
But yes, there has always been the free runtime.
.hc
On Sep 20, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
I have heard rumors from various sources that Cycling 74 may change
the pricing scheme of Max to include a limited version for free. If
true, what does this mean for Pd?
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Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally
for machines to execute.
- from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs
On Sep 21, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
But yes, there has always been the free runtime.
What I was alluding to, was the 30-day demo.
Ahh, but what I heard was that the 30 day limitation would be removed ... people would then pay for the Jitter, etc packages.
Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
Max has always offered the possibility of downloading "free" but a 30-day license, which is that crack, I think it means little, it's like when windows 7 is "liberated", we humbly think we use pd for two reasons: the potential and an ethical issue, it would be a bad move create or teaching max and then forcing us or our students to pay a license ... I do not think that means a lot, I teach in universities pd, other professors teach max and is a real pain in the head, max in my experience only works well in osx again making it proprietary. I preferred pd as mentioned, plus the community is worth more than $ 700, is something that commercial software can never have.
Best regards
José
2010/9/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at
I've never really used Max, so doesn't mean much to me. Whatever floats their boat :). I don't really see it as a competition.
But yes, there has always been the free runtime.
.hc
On Sep 20, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
I have heard rumors from various sources that Cycling 74 may change the pricing scheme of Max to include a limited version for free. If true, what does this mean for Pd?
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On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato < santorcuato76@gmail.com> wrote:
Max has always offered the possibility of downloading "free" but a 30-day license, which is that crack, I think it means little, it's like when windows 7 is "liberated", we humbly think we use pd for two reasons: the potential and an ethical issue, [...]
Plus it doesn't run on Linux and probably won't. Not to mention mobile phones... :o)
Andras
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