hi everyone,
i would like to make a patch with multiple fx~ _but_ is it possible to chain the fx~ and change the order without a single glitch in the dsp. as an example:
[adc~] | [reverb~] | [distortion~] | [dac~]
now pressing a bang and automagically:
[adc~] | [distortion~] | [reverb~] | [dac~]
is it possible in pd? thanks, pat
I think the way you'd do it to prevent glitches is to have them in
subpatches, always attached, and then turn them on and off with a [*~]
and a [switch~].
.hc
On Oct 20, 2011, at 9:44 PM, patrick wrote:
hi everyone,
i would like to make a patch with multiple fx~ _but_ is it possible to chain the fx~ and change the order without a single glitch in the dsp. as an example:
[adc~] | [reverb~] | [distortion~] | [dac~]
now pressing a bang and automagically:
[adc~] | [distortion~] | [reverb~] | [dac~]
is it possible in pd? thanks, pat
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On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 23:48 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I think the way you'd do it to prevent glitches is to have them in
subpatches, always attached, and then turn them on and off with a [*~]
and a [switch~].
How are you gonna patch this without creating DSP loops?
Roman
On Oct 20, 2011, at 9:44 PM, patrick wrote:
hi everyone,
i would like to make a patch with multiple fx~ _but_ is it possible to chain the fx~ and change the order without a single glitch in the dsp. as an example:
[adc~] | [reverb~] | [distortion~] | [dac~]
now pressing a bang and automagically:
[adc~] | [distortion~] | [reverb~] | [dac~]
is it possible in pd? thanks, pat
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here's a quick example with throw~ and catch~
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Roman Haefeli reduzent@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 23:48 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I think the way you'd do it to prevent glitches is to have them in subpatches, always attached, and then turn them on and off with a [*~] and a [switch~].
How are you gonna patch this without creating DSP loops?
Roman
On Oct 20, 2011, at 9:44 PM, patrick wrote:
hi everyone,
i would like to make a patch with multiple fx~ _but_ is it possible to chain the fx~ and change the order without a single glitch in the dsp. as an example:
[adc~] | [reverb~] | [distortion~] | [dac~]
now pressing a bang and automagically:
[adc~] | [distortion~] | [reverb~] | [dac~]
is it possible in pd? thanks, pat
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On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 19:02 +0900, i go bananas wrote:
here's a quick example with throw~ and catch~
This is actually a good example of how difficult / impossible it is to make it really glitch free with [send~ ] / [receive~ ], [throw~ ] and [catch~ ] respectively.
During one block, you get weird results when switching. Check attached patch (your simpleRouting.pd with a grapher).
Roman
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Roman Haefeli reduzent@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 23:48 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I think the way you'd do it to prevent glitches is to have them in subpatches, always attached, and then turn them on and off with a [*~] and a [switch~].
How are you gonna patch this without creating DSP loops?
Roman
On Oct 20, 2011, at 9:44 PM, patrick wrote:
hi everyone,
i would like to make a patch with multiple fx~ _but_ is it possible to chain the fx~ and change the order without a single glitch in the dsp. as an example:
[adc~] | [reverb~] | [distortion~] | [dac~]
now pressing a bang and automagically:
[adc~] | [distortion~] | [reverb~] | [dac~]
is it possible in pd? thanks, pat
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yeah, so of course you ramp down the signal using line~ or vline~ before the switch.
anyway, you need to do that to avoid discontinuities in the signal.
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Roman Haefeli reduzent@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 19:02 +0900, i go bananas wrote:
here's a quick example with throw~ and catch~
This is actually a good example of how difficult / impossible it is to make it really glitch free with [send~ ] / [receive~ ], [throw~ ] and [catch~ ] respectively.
During one block, you get weird results when switching. Check attached patch (your simpleRouting.pd with a grapher).
Roman
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Roman Haefeli reduzent@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 23:48 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I think the way you'd do it to prevent glitches is to have them in subpatches, always attached, and then turn them on and off with a
[*~]
and a [switch~].
How are you gonna patch this without creating DSP loops?
Roman
On Oct 20, 2011, at 9:44 PM, patrick wrote:
hi everyone,
i would like to make a patch with multiple fx~ _but_ is it possible
to
chain the fx~ and change the order without a single glitch in the
dsp.
as an example:
[adc~] | [reverb~] | [distortion~] | [dac~]
now pressing a bang and automagically:
[adc~] | [distortion~] | [reverb~] | [dac~]
is it possible in pd? thanks, pat
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Hi Pat
It's logical problem. You cannot have the signal path having both possible orders at the same time. If you want to switch the order, you need to re-create the path. This could be done by dynamically disconnecting wires and re-creating them in the other order. However, this causes recompilation of the DSP graph. Certainly you cannot do it with [send~]/[receive~] pairs. There will alway one pair that introduces a block size delay.
They only idea I can come up with is not very scalable. You create both possible paths in parallel and switch~ them on and off as needed.
However, this only guarantees not to create any DSP hickups. Turning on and off instantaneously causes some effects to create glitches (non-continuous signal).
Roman
On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 21:44 -0400, patrick wrote:
hi everyone,
i would like to make a patch with multiple fx~ _but_ is it possible to chain the fx~ and change the order without a single glitch in the dsp. as an example:
[adc~] | [reverb~] | [distortion~] | [dac~]
now pressing a bang and automagically:
[adc~] | [distortion~] | [reverb~] | [dac~]
is it possible in pd? thanks, pat
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Has anyone tried a VCS3 style crosspoint patch in Pd, but then replace the cross switches with quick crossfaders?
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 08:55:22 +0200 Roman Haefeli reduzent@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Pat
It's logical problem. You cannot have the signal path having both possible orders at the same time. If you want to switch the order, you need to re-create the path. This could be done by dynamically disconnecting wires and re-creating them in the other order. However, this causes recompilation of the DSP graph. Certainly you cannot do it with [send~]/[receive~] pairs. There will alway one pair that introduces a block size delay.
They only idea I can come up with is not very scalable. You create both possible paths in parallel and switch~ them on and off as needed.
However, this only guarantees not to create any DSP hickups. Turning on and off instantaneously causes some effects to create glitches (non-continuous signal).
Roman
On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 21:44 -0400, patrick wrote:
hi everyone,
i would like to make a patch with multiple fx~ _but_ is it possible to chain the fx~ and change the order without a single glitch in the dsp. as an example:
[adc~] | [reverb~] | [distortion~] | [dac~]
now pressing a bang and automagically:
[adc~] | [distortion~] | [reverb~] | [dac~]
is it possible in pd? thanks, pat
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Or use the "magic" of [lop~] (which I really completely understood from Andy's book Designing Sound), and the approach suggested by hans.
Lorenzo.
On 21/10/2011 09:08, Andy Farnell wrote:
Has anyone tried a VCS3 style crosspoint patch in Pd, but then replace the cross switches with quick crossfaders?
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 08:55:22 +0200 Roman Haefelireduzent@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Pat
It's logical problem. You cannot have the signal path having both possible orders at the same time. If you want to switch the order, you need to re-create the path. This could be done by dynamically disconnecting wires and re-creating them in the other order. However, this causes recompilation of the DSP graph. Certainly you cannot do it with [send~]/[receive~] pairs. There will alway one pair that introduces a block size delay.
They only idea I can come up with is not very scalable. You create both possible paths in parallel and switch~ them on and off as needed.
However, this only guarantees not to create any DSP hickups. Turning on and off instantaneously causes some effects to create glitches (non-continuous signal).
Roman
On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 21:44 -0400, patrick wrote:
hi everyone,
i would like to make a patch with multiple fx~ _but_ is it possible to chain the fx~ and change the order without a single glitch in the dsp. as an example:
[adc~] | [reverb~] | [distortion~] | [dac~]
now pressing a bang and automagically:
[adc~] | [distortion~] | [reverb~] | [dac~]
is it possible in pd? thanks, pat
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