Pd-list May 2022

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Re: [PD] Question About [Mrpeach/Midifile] Status
by Dan Wilcox 29 May '22

29 May '22

I have this in a convenience abstraction I made for midifile: [c_midiplay]. I feel that midifile is low-level on purpose which allows you to make abstractions depending on the use case, so I don't know if I agree for the need for yet another object, however it's your time, so enjoy! > On May 29, 2022, at 1:27 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Now one just needs to click on a toggle to start/stop > playing the midifile, no need to harvest metadata to find out a tick tempo > value to feed a metro object. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Question About [Mrpeach/Midifile] Status
by Alexandre Torres Porres 29 May '22

29 May '22

Hi, I have a third MIDI reading/writing external besides cyclone/seq and midifile, it's else/midi. It is based on cyclone/seq and has a different design/functionalities. It's been in my to do list forever to also incorporate the functionalities from midifile, like being able to write different tracks and meta-data. I am finally doing this now! It should still take a while though... this will also imply an overhaul into else/midi. I guess now I'll actually base the external on [midifile] and build on top of it different functionalities and design. I think midifile is really hard to use and I'm making it much more convenient and more like what else/midi currently is. I will also make it export the midi sequence to a text file that can be used in [text sequence] like [else/midi] does and I am also working on a way to export to a text file that is suitable for my new [else/score] object, which is esier to use and more musically convenient than [text sequence]. I will post about it here soon when I have a better prototype, right after I make tests on writing midi files. I haven't made the code available yet, I started on it this week and in about a month I should have a new external up! So far I have taken care of the reading part. As you can see, I have big plans on providing what I consider to be finally "midi files done right" for Pd. I basically rewrote midifile from scratch and was able to remove more than 300 lines of code and still keep the same functionalities and include new ones. Now one just needs to click on a toggle to start/stop playing the midifile, no need to harvest metadata to find out a tick tempo value to feed a metro object. Cheers. Em sáb., 28 de mai. de 2022 às 20:07, Alexandre Torres Porres < porres(a)gmail.com> escreveu: > Hi! Is anyone still supporting the MrPeach external, in particular, > [mrpeach/midifile]? I've had no luck creating MIDI files, except for the > most trivial of examples. If I try to play back the file, I just get a > stream of error messages like the following: midifile: No running status on > track 0 at 957 And if I try to play it back using [cyclone/seq], I get the > following error messages: seq's warning: missing running status in midi > file... skip to end of track seq's warning: no valid miditracks And if I > try to play the file with Windows Media Player, I get the following error: > Windows Media Player encountered a problem while playing the file. I'd like > to use [mrpeach/midifile] rather than [cyclone/seq] because it seems to > have more features (ability to specify track numbers, save meta-data, > etc.). But if nobody is supporting it any more, maybe I'll just forget it. > I've posted questions on the forum ( https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/), > but so far I haven't been able to solve the problem. Also, if anyone knows > of more extensive examples of its use than what's in the help file, that > might be helpful too. But so far, Google hasn't turned up any. >

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[PD-announce] accountant's delight: deken v0.9
by IOhannes m zmölnig 28 May '22

28 May '22

hi i'd like to announce the release of deken-v0.9 https://github.com/pure-data/deken/releases/v0.9 the GUI-plugin can be installed via deken. just go to "Help -> Find externals" and enter "deken-plugin" as the search string. this is the version i'd like to get into the next Pd release as the standard "find externals" implementation. so please test! deken-plugin ("Find externals" within Pd) ========================================= - brand-new excel-like interface - sort by library/version/uploader/date - quick link from a package to it's deken homepage (which features objectlists and more) - simple selection of multiple packages - INSTALL button - watch the installation as it unfolds - proper menu for installing pre-downloaded package files - fast SHA256 verification on all platforms - option to uninstall packages - proper menu for proper ties - advertise https://deken.puredata.info - better feedback if search returned no result - tooltip - balloons - improve guessing of deken architecture - fix version sorting - fix all bugs - fix some more bugs - implement many bugs deken cmdline (create and upload packages) ========================================== - ported to hy-1.0a4 - improve detection of single/double precision externals - fix detection of FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD externals - fix `==` version comparator (for finding packages of an exact version) - add `~=` version comparator (for finding packages of a compatible version) - allow mixing of libraries with version constraints and libraries without in search terms. - allow the user to specify a target directory when downloading - more output at higher verbosities - drop Python2 support - allow the user to switch off GPG-signing with a envvar - fix some more bugs - add brand new bugs binaries a Docker image for the deken cmdline tool are available from the releases page. with this release, the repository switched to using `main` as the primary release branch. happy patching dsrax IOhannes _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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dynamic patching and inlet / outlet count introspection
by Federico Ferri 27 May '22

27 May '22

Hi, I just came across the iemguts library and also this old presentation [1]. I was wondering if there is also a way of knowing how many inlets and outlets an object has. That would probably complete the introspection that can be done on a canvas and its objects... I haven't found any among iemguts. (btw, when trying the iemguts objects, it seems [objectrename] does not work with pd-0.52.2: the old object name still works, and the new one not) 1: http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2009/cdm/Saturday/18_Zmoelnig/zmoelnig_pdreflecti… Cheers, Federico Ferri

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Re: [PD] help patch for [*~] not found (renamed)
by Dan Wilcox 23 May '22

23 May '22

The help file name for those objects are hardcoded in src/d_arithmetic and need to be updated. @Alex Are there other objects which were renamed in the doc overhaul? > On May 22, 2022, at 5:00 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2022 11:29:07 +0200 > From: "Peter P." <peterparker(a)fastmail.com <mailto:peterparker@fastmail.com>> > To: pd-list <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: [PD] help patch for [*~] not found (renamed) > Message-ID: <20220522092907.puu5h3hiurwexgkm(a)fastmail.com <mailto:20220522092907.puu5h3hiurwexgkm@fastmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi, upon wanting to open the help patch for [*~] I am getting the error > message > sorry, couldn't find help patch for "sigbinops.pd" > and indeed, the help patch got renamed to binops-tilde-help.pd > > I am on Debian with puredata-doc 0.52.2+ds0-1~bpo11+1 from > bullseye-backports > > cheersz, P -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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help patch for [*~] not found (renamed)
by Peter P. 22 May '22

22 May '22

Hi, upon wanting to open the help patch for [*~] I am getting the error message sorry, couldn't find help patch for "sigbinops.pd" and indeed, the help patch got renamed to binops-tilde-help.pd I am on Debian with puredata-doc 0.52.2+ds0-1~bpo11+1 from bullseye-backports cheersz, P

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Deken-Server functional?
by Roman Haefeli 16 May '22

16 May '22

Hey all A few days ago, I uploaded with Deken the new package mp3cast~ for various platforms. The files are online, but "Find external" -> "Search" doesn't list them. I'm not sure how the inclusion works, but either I did something wrong or the regular scanning for new uploads stopped working. https://puredata.info/Members/rdz/software/mp3cast%7E/0.5/ @IOhannes, thanks for looking into it. Roman

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Re: [PD] two sliders on top of each other (XY-Controller)?
by Dan Wilcox 13 May '22

13 May '22

(Replaying to the pd-list as well.) I have used it with no problems. I believe the -1 is there so you can detect if the mouse is no longer dragging, kind of like active / inactive events. Just add a filter on the output like [moses 0]. I'm not sure why you see errors. At the very least, you should be able to copy and modify the internals to suit your needs. Chris did most of the work already... > On May 13, 2022, at 2:37 AM, Peter P. <peterparker(a)fastmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks Dan, > > this looks promising! Have you tried the abstraction yourself? It seems > it outputs a -1 whenever the mouse pointer has stoppend moving? And it > throws > 1040template-marker: no such template > upon creation... > > cheersz, P > > * Dan Wilcox <danomatika(a)gmail.com> [2022-05-13 08:31]: >> Not a direct answer but: Try the droidparty [touch] abstraction: >> >> https://github.com/chr15m/PdDroidParty/tree/master/droidparty-abstractions <https://github.com/chr15m/PdDroidParty/tree/master/droidparty-abstractions> >> >> It uses data structures to make a draggable xy slider(set), vanilla-only. >> >>> On May 12, 2022, at 7:23 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 13:54:07 +0200 >>> From: "Peter P." <peterparker(a)fastmail.com <mailto:peterparker@fastmail.com>> >>> To: pd-list <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> >>> Subject: [PD] two sliders on top of each other (XY-Controller)? >>> Message-ID: <20220512115407.oh2xglvqq3a4yjhl(a)fastmail.com <mailto:20220512115407.oh2xglvqq3a4yjhl@fastmail.com>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Hi list, >>> >>> jus tried if two sliders placed on top of each other could work as a >>> simple XY-contoller. They do not, but more interestingly it is the lower >>> of the two slider that receives the mouse clicks while the upper is >>> visible. Is this intentional? >>> >>> Could GUI objects be transparent in color as well as for clicks in any >>> way? >>> >>> I know about the canvas-objects reporting their positions (and it would >>> be cool if they would report mouse-downs and -ups as well), but don't >>> like the fact that I have to be in edit mode to move them. >>> >>> It seems there is no other vanilla way for xy-controllers then... >>> >>> thanks! >>> Peter >> >> -------- >> Dan Wilcox >> @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> >> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> >> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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[PD-announce] CFP: Piksel 20 years Anniversary! PikselXX - Nov. 17-20 2022
by 220hex 13 May '22

13 May '22

** sorry for xx-posting ** -- PikselXX is scheduled for November 17 – 20. 2022 Piksel 20 years Anniversary Dear friends, We are glad to announce the call for projects for the 20 years Piksel edition! To celebrate the anniversary we open a new track for texts, if you are a previous Piksel participant and want to share with us your experience, this section is yours. Selected articles from the open call together with some curated texts from Piksel artists and colleagues will be included in the Piksel 20 years book. Piksel will go hybrid again. Screen-based artworks and PikselSavers are primarily intended for the Piksel XX Cyber Salon. Ideas for collaborative online/physical activities are welcome. This year we want to be back to physicality, we encourage you to present art installations that can be built in Bergen to minimize the international transport, according to the green strategy. Please feel free to submit your projects to any one of the open tracks: Presentations, workshops, concerts, installations, and the texts call. Deadline is 31st of July!! Please use the online submit form at: https://pretalx.com/piksel22/ Piksel22 is supported by the Municipality of Bergen, Arts Council Norway, Vestland fylkeskommune and others. more info: https://piksel.no/ **Piksel is an international festival for electronic art and technological freedom. Part workshop, part festival, it is organised in Bergen, Norway, and involves participants from more than a dozen countries exchanging ideas, coding, presenting art and software projects, doing workshops, performances and discussions on the aesthetics and politics of art and free technologies.** -- **open CALL for PROJECTS** For the exhibition and other parts of the program we currently seek projects in the following categories: **1. Installations** Projects to be included in the exhibitions. The works must be realized by the use of free and open source technologies. **2. Audiovisual performance** Live art realized by the use of free software and/or open/DIY hardware. We encourage audio-visual projects, online “orchestra” collaborations with local actors,... **3. Presentations** Innovative DIY/open hardware and audiovisual software tools or software art released under a free/open license. (Also includes presentations of artistic projects realized using free/open technologies.) **4. Workshops** Hands on workshops utilizing free software and/or open/DIY hardware for artistic use. Workshops can be on a virtual basis too. **5. PikselSavers** Video and software art based on the screensaver format – short audiovisual (non)narratives made for endless looping. Possible thematic fields includes but are not limited to: sustainable resource allocation, renewable technologies, energy harvesting, fair trade hardware, free content, open access, open data, DIY economy, shared development. The works must be realized by the use of free/open source technologies. **6. Texts** Anecdotes and reflections from the 20 years history of Piksel for the anniversary book. We are specially interested in hearing about collaborations and projects that was initiated as a result of artists meeting at the festival. **Deadline to July 31. 2022** Please use the online submit form at: https://pretalx.com/piksel22/ -- -- -- Gisle Frøysland Piksel Produksjoner Strandgaten 207 5004 Bergen, Norway +47 90665018 www.piksel.no _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] two sliders on top of each other (XY-Controller)?
by Dan Wilcox 13 May '22

13 May '22

Not a direct answer but: Try the droidparty [touch] abstraction: https://github.com/chr15m/PdDroidParty/tree/master/droidparty-abstractions <https://github.com/chr15m/PdDroidParty/tree/master/droidparty-abstractions> It uses data structures to make a draggable xy slider(set), vanilla-only. > On May 12, 2022, at 7:23 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 13:54:07 +0200 > From: "Peter P." <peterparker(a)fastmail.com <mailto:peterparker@fastmail.com>> > To: pd-list <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: [PD] two sliders on top of each other (XY-Controller)? > Message-ID: <20220512115407.oh2xglvqq3a4yjhl(a)fastmail.com <mailto:20220512115407.oh2xglvqq3a4yjhl@fastmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi list, > > jus tried if two sliders placed on top of each other could work as a > simple XY-contoller. They do not, but more interestingly it is the lower > of the two slider that receives the mouse clicks while the upper is > visible. Is this intentional? > > Could GUI objects be transparent in color as well as for clicks in any > way? > > I know about the canvas-objects reporting their positions (and it would > be cool if they would report mouse-downs and -ups as well), but don't > like the fact that I have to be in edit mode to move them. > > It seems there is no other vanilla way for xy-controllers then... > > thanks! > Peter -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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