Pd-list May 2022

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Preset management for Pd Vanilla
by Alexandre Torres Porres 13 Nov '23

13 Nov '23

Never really needed fancy preset management other than storing messages in a basic vanilla way. But I've seen people mention how Pd lacks a nice preset system. Not that I know what a fancy one actually needs since I never felt the demand. So I'm here to ask what people use in Pd Vanilla, be it a pure vanilla solution or an external. And also to ask what people miss. This is what I came up with as a pure vanilla abstraction, it's based on [text] and [savestate]. Here's the thing: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A0ISEJo5F1E578WHM1doo1n2CJAthonU/view?usp=… In short, the preset abstraction takes messages and stores them. You can have many of these on your patch and use them to recall presets for any parameters. It takes any kind of messages. I'm making use of built-in sends and receives in the number boxes to make the patch cleaner. Just think that you can have separate control of each parameter having its own preset or group all of them together globally, or a group here and another there, whatever... Once you save the patch, the presets you saved get stored in the patch. As for my current idea for my ELSE library, I'm using an object similar to grab to take messages from [receive] objects. It's a development over this original vanilla abstraction. My first draft is this, I hope that sharing the screenshot give you a nice idea. [image: Screen Shot 2021-01-21 at 04.47.42.png] You can check what's up in my repository for more details... https://github.com/porres/pd-else/blob/master/Classes/Abstractions/preset.pd cheers

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soundtouch~ for Pd Vanilla
by Alexandre Torres Porres 31 Oct '23

31 Oct '23

Hi folks, I'm on a vibe of uploading missing libraries and objects for Pd Vanilla on deken. On the list I have FFTease, Lyonpotpourri, CICM-Tools and more stuff that I'm looking into, just so you know... Now, I see there's an old soundtouch~ external here: http://www.katjaas.nl/pitchshift/soundtouch~.html - it's "version 0.9" by Katja Vetter. It was developed with SoundTouch version 1.6 and Pure Data version 0.42. I tested on Pd 0.51-4 32 bits on mac and it works fine. There are binaries for download on the link above, but not for 64 bits. I wonder if anyone wants to help me build these with pd-lib-builder and all. Now, the ceammc librarym (and Pd-ceammc distribution) has a soundtouch~ external too. It's the same name, but not the same external, this one is marked as "version 0.1". So we do already have "a" soundtouch~ for vanilla, but I wanted to also get katja's external up there. So I just uploaded the download from that page here https://github.com/porres/pd-soundtouch - It's just the download as it is and we need to change to hopefully use pd-lib-builder, which would make things easier. I did try that and it didn't work. So, anyone onboard with this? cheers

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MIDI specifications for Multidimensional Polyphonic Expression (MPE) in Pd
by Alexandre Torres Porres 26 Oct '23

26 Oct '23

some new objects for MPE Midi is on Max's new update, just googled it to see what it was http://expressiveness.org/2015/04/24/midi-specifications-for-multidimension… wonder if you guys know anything about this and if anyone would be into bringing this to Pd. cheers

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[PD-announce] [vstplugin~] 0.5.4 bug fix release!
by Christof Ressi 20 Sep '22

20 Sep '22

Hi, I am happy to announce a new bug fix release for [vstplugin~] - a Pd external for hosting VST2 and VST3 plugins on Windows, macOS and Linux. It is available on Deken (search for "vstplugin~"). Please upgrade! Here is the full change log: https://git.iem.at/pd/vstplugin/-/releases Please report any issues at https://git.iem.at/pd/vstplugin/-/issues Have fun! Christof _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Some confusion about linux amd64-64 and linux amd64-32 in deken, and what are all the possible variations?
by José de Abreu 10 Jun '22

10 Jun '22

Hello list! I have some questions regarding the architectures available in deken I noticed that deken has many different architectures possible for the packages, as i checked by now (not an exhaustive search) there is at least 8 for linux, (amd64-32, amd64-64, i386-32, arm64-32, armv6-32, armv7-32, armv7-64, armv7l-32), at least 4 for mac (amd64-32, x86_64-32, i386-32, PowerPC-32) and at least 2 for windows (amd64-32, i386-32). There are more? And are they correct? Should i expect that all mac and windows may have the -64 variant too? I ask this because I want to create a table showing all the externals available and which downloads are possible from deken, together with descriptions for each external, so i want to know what are the possible architectures that I am missing... see the (unfinished) table here https://pdwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_Externals#List_of_Externals So for the first question of the e-mail, what is the difference between amd64-64 and amd64-32? I guess that the first name would be for the architecture of the system, and then the last 32 or 64 would be for single or double precision... but if I search for bandlimited in deken for example, i get that its package is amd64-64 for linux, and i can install it on normal pd, but pd double refuses it, as it is a 32bit-float object. Well, bandlimited was uploaded in 2016, way before the pd double came to vanilla (maybe 2019?), so it makes sense that it is 32bit-float... But there were other reasons for it (and other externals, some from extended) to be packaged as linux amd64-64 instead of amd64-32?

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Re: [PD] Startup Flags OSX PD 0.52.2
by Dan Wilcox 01 Jun '22

01 Jun '22

??? Pd -> Preferences -> Startup... -> Startup Flags? I just tested by creating a patch, saving the patch, setting Log Level 4, copying the full path from the console window, pasting into Startup Flags box. Works fine for me. (You may need to escape paths with spaces.) Pd 0.52-2 on macOS 11.6.4 ... but yes, I generally write shell scripts myself. :) > On May 31, 2022, at 7:49 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 17:49:33 +0200 > From: Simon Iten <itensimon(a)gmail.com <mailto:itensimon@gmail.com>> > To: Pd-list <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: [PD] Startup Flags OSX PD 0.52.2 > Message-ID: > <CAP9NQknnmqG+JfQW9f2BoPn-Y23BqDDBcXr0y=U98XsDJ6NLWA(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAP9NQknnmqG+JfQW9f2BoPn-Y23BqDDBcXr0y=U98XsDJ6NLWA@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Maybe an obvious question... > > For an installation/Autostart scenario on OSX, where are the startup Flags > in the Menu of PD to start with a specific patch? I could swear I used this > previously but can't find it now... > > Alternatively I will have to write a small shell script I suppose. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Fwd: Startup Flags OSX PD 0.52.2
by Simon Iten 01 Jun '22

01 Jun '22

sorry old adress... > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Simon Iten <itensimon(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] Startup Flags OSX PD 0.52.2 > Date: 1 June 2022 at 01:14:17 CEST > To: pd list <pd-list(a)iem.at> > > i see… > > it is just that on one of my machines (with a german language OSX version) the preferences pop-up list is not appearing. only the preferences entry that takes you to the audio-midi setup. maybe lost in translation ? since i did a fresh install of pd 0.52.2 i thought it was related to that. > > i now installed 0.52.2 on my main machine and the menu is there (but that is an english OSX). > > will investigate further and report back. > >> On 31 May 2022, at 23:53, Dan Wilcox <danomatika(a)gmail.com <mailto:danomatika@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> ??? >> >> Pd -> Preferences -> Startup... -> Startup Flags? >> >> I just tested by creating a patch, saving the patch, setting Log Level 4, copying the full path from the console window, pasting into Startup Flags box. Works fine for me. (You may need to escape paths with spaces.) Pd 0.52-2 on macOS 11.6.4 >> >> ... but yes, I generally write shell scripts myself. :) >> >>> On May 31, 2022, at 7:49 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> wrote: >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 17:49:33 +0200 >>> From: Simon Iten <itensimon(a)gmail.com <mailto:itensimon@gmail.com>> >>> To: Pd-list <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> >>> Subject: [PD] Startup Flags OSX PD 0.52.2 >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAP9NQknnmqG+JfQW9f2BoPn-Y23BqDDBcXr0y=U98XsDJ6NLWA(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAP9NQknnmqG+JfQW9f2BoPn-Y23BqDDBcXr0y=U98XsDJ6NLWA@mail.gmail.com>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Maybe an obvious question... >>> >>> For an installation/Autostart scenario on OSX, where are the startup Flags >>> in the Menu of PD to start with a specific patch? I could swear I used this >>> previously but can't find it now... >>> >>> Alternatively I will have to write a small shell script I suppose. >> >> -------- >> Dan Wilcox >> @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> >> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> >> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> >> >> >> >

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Startup Flags OSX PD 0.52.2
by Simon Iten 31 May '22

31 May '22

Maybe an obvious question... For an installation/Autostart scenario on OSX, where are the startup Flags in the Menu of PD to start with a specific patch? I could swear I used this previously but can't find it now... Alternatively I will have to write a small shell script I suppose.

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Re: [PD] Question About [Mrpeach/Midifile] Status
by Dan Wilcox 29 May '22

29 May '22

Why not help us fix them in midifile? > On May 29, 2022, at 8:06 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 28 May 2022 20:35:29 -0300 > From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>> > To: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Question About [Mrpeach/Midifile] Status > Message-ID: > <CAEAsFmgFa64w6Hb8BQr8R2AO5T6SM9FzVAgXkOn7EmsO1HxV7Q(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAEAsFmgFa64w6Hb8BQr8R2AO5T6SM9FzVAgXkOn7EmsO1HxV7Q@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > by the way, I have my eyes on > https://github.com/pd-externals/mrpeach/issues/1 <https://github.com/pd-externals/mrpeach/issues/1> and will make sure if my > project based on midifile has the same issues or if I can get them fixed. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Question About [Mrpeach/Midifile] Status
by Dan Wilcox 29 May '22

29 May '22

It's in my rc-patches abstraction library: https://github.com/danomatika/rc-patches <https://github.com/danomatika/rc-patches> One of these days I will get around to versioning and uploading to deken... > On May 29, 2022, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 29 May 2022 10:19:03 +0200 > From: "Peter P." <peterparker(a)fastmail.com <mailto:peterparker@fastmail.com>> > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] Question About [Mrpeach/Midifile] Status > Message-ID: <20220529081903.ufweo5h56jodbnfc(a)fastmail.com <mailto:20220529081903.ufweo5h56jodbnfc@fastmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > * Dan Wilcox <danomatika(a)gmail.com <mailto:danomatika@gmail.com>> [2022-05-29 08:07]: >> I have this in a convenience abstraction I made for midifile: [c_midiplay]. > Thanks Dan! Now I'd only need a way to open screenshots in Pd... ;) > > cheers, P -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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