Pd-list November 2021

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Re: [PD] deken hiding non-newest versions of each library (Re: Pd 0.52 test 2 is out)
by Dan Wilcox 29 Nov '21

29 Nov '21

Maybe it should... > On Nov 28, 2021, at 11:23 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 23:23:53 +0100 > From: Christof Ressi <info(a)christofressi.com <mailto:info@christofressi.com>> > To: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] deken hiding non-newest versions of each library > (Re: Pd 0.52 test 2 is out) > Message-ID: <1ed635fb-68b0-aec8-df9f-b3602aa89844(a)christofressi.com <mailto:1ed635fb-68b0-aec8-df9f-b3602aa89844@christofressi.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > "-noprefs" only works for the Pd core preferences, but *not* for the Pd > GUI preferences. > > On 28.11.2021 23:20, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: >> >> Cool. Even better: >> >> ./pd -noprefs -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out
by Dan Wilcox 28 Nov '21

28 Nov '21

My 2 cents: From a beginners perspective, limiting to the latest (stable) release makes sense as a long list of various versions and tests with only some number and date in a small font / embedded in the file name to differentiate them could be very confusing. Perhaps there is a good middle ground where the option can be enabled by default but the latest, say 2-3 releases are listed with "stable" and "test" better marked? Or perhaps this is the new default behavior and the checkbox is reversed as in it becomes "Show all versions of a library"? Don't forget that just because you get used to something, doesn't mean that's the best approach or that's the way it has to stay. I recall a few people on this list making that point about certain aspects of the GUI... :) > On Nov 28, 2021, at 4:05 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 16:05:50 +0100 > From: Christof Ressi <info(a)christofressi.com <mailto:info@christofressi.com>> > To: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out > Message-ID: <2ec67a1d-1b01-98d2-d1dd-247d33d93e90(a)christofressi.com <mailto:2ec67a1d-1b01-98d2-d1dd-247d33d93e90@christofressi.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > >> I think this kind of unwarned change can be really confusing, see my >> case here :) it's a cool option, but maybe not checked by default? > I also think that the option should be off by default. For example, > let's say there is a stable "vstplugin~-0.5.2" package on Deken. Now, if > I upload "vstplugin~-0.6-test" Deken would only show that and would hide > the stable release... > > Or should we rather stop uploading test releases to Deken? > > Christof -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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documenting messages to/from Pd and dynamic patching
by Alexandre Torres Porres 28 Nov '21

28 Nov '21

People, I'm on a roll here, updating much of the help files and documentation. I just hit an important new addition, documenting "Messages to/from Pd" and "Dynamic Patching" I'd like you people to revise it. Here's the commit => https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1455/commits/0ec5429629eb1045c9… already in an open PR Cheers

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[PD-announce] New releases of Pd-L2Ork
by Ico Bukvic 28 Nov '21

28 Nov '21

Following over dozen of new releases in the past 2 months, in the spirit of thanksgiving, L2Ork (http://l2ork.music.vt.edu) is pleased to announce latest release of Pd-L2Ork (dated 2021-11-21) for Linux, OSX, and Windows, featuring a number of bug-fixes and community requests, including: *Proper array and scalar selection, moving, and drawing with an improved cursor *Curved patched cords are now a user setting in the GUI Preferences (enabled by default) *Ability to have objects with more than 1,024 characters (e.g. comments that also support endlines) *Fixed bugs in the helplink and pddplink objects *Added ability for the maxlib/netserver to disconnect users (plus tons of other improvements that have ensured the L2Ork Tweeter runs stably, such as a non-blocking mode, and graceful handling of delayed packets) *Reworked copy from external clipboard feature, now allowing for reliable pasting of the pd patch script directly into a patch. *Included L2Ork Tweeter version 0.62 with its server and server admin documentation--community members can now host their own L2Ork Tweeter servers! Added L2Ork Tweeter Teacher widget to allow for easier remote administering of Tweeter in a classroom, and tons of other bug-fixes and improvements. To download the latest version visit: https://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/make-your-own-l2ork/software/ For more info on L2Ork Tweeter, including downloads, visit: https://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/make-your-own-l2ork/tweeter/ Happy Thanksgiving! Best, Ico -- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Director, Creativity + Innovation Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology Virginia Tech Creative Technologies in Music School of Performing Arts – 0141 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 ico(a)vt.edu ci.icat.vt.edu l2ork.icat.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] documenting messages to/from Pd and dynamic patching
by Jean-Yves Gratius 27 Nov '21

27 Nov '21

On 27/11/2021 17:19, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > ForwardedMessage.eml > > Subject: > Re: [PD] documenting messages to/from Pd and dynamic patching > From: > Christof Ressi <info(a)christofressi.com> > Date: > 27/11/2021 Ã 17:01 > > To: > Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at> > > > Two examples that come to my mind: > > 1) [iemguts/canvasselect] allows to (de)select objects simply by > index. No need to emulate mouse selection with "mouse" and "mouseup". > > 2) canvases/objects can be moved around with [iemguts/canvasposition] > resp. [iemguts/canvasobjectposition] > > Are there any other use cases for "mouse" and "mouseup"? > Hi. My 2 cents Personally, I use mouse and mouseup messages to forward multitouch events into the patch, receivedÂ from my multitouch linux laptop. If those messages were blocked, all my multitouch ecosystem would be out of order :-) .

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pd double precision
by Alexandre Torres Porres 26 Nov '21

26 Nov '21

again the same question, with 0.52 around the corner, will we have a Pd double precision binary distributed? cheers

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Getting Started tutorial video for Scheme for Pd
by Iain Duncan 25 Nov '21

25 Nov '21

Hi everyone, I've got a fairly extensive Getting Started with Scheme for Pd video tutorial up now. Between this, the help file, and the beginner's guide to s7, this should give someone new to Scheme everything they need to get up and running with Scheme for Pd. Getting Started video: https://youtu.be/NW_KxEK_k2M Beginner's guide to s7 Scheme: https://iainctduncan.github.io/learn-scheme-for-max/part_1.html Hope you enjoy it, and let me know how you get on! iain

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Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out
by Óscar Santis 25 Nov '21

25 Nov '21

> - The shortcut for symbol box (cmd+4) is gone, it now load the list > box instead, no shortcut is given for symbol and the next shortcut > (cmd+5) is for comments as before. Why not have list as shortcut?cmd+5 > and comments get cmd+6? This can be modified by editing the files: pure-data/tcl/pd_menus.tcl pure_data/tcl/pd_binmdings.tcl El mar, 23 nov 2021 a las 15:28, <pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at> escribió: > Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to > pd-list(a)lists.iem.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pd-list-owner(a)lists.iem.at > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Pd 0.52 test 2 is out (Alexandre Torres Porres) > 2. Re: Pd 0.52 test 2 is out (Christof Ressi) > 3. Re: Pd 0.52 test 2 is out (Antoine Rousseau) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 14:06:02 -0300 > From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com> > To: Miller Puckette <msp(a)ucsd.edu> > Cc: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out > Message-ID: > <CAEAsFmhSRfHtdBbkG= > 5quuvL5rnQMRATKtZCcv_qtEbht5ZvJQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Ok, as the first email to the list about it, here are some thoughts for > starters :) > > - Now connections get grayed out when making new connections. Haven't > really gotten used to it, what's everyone else idea on this? Can we make > this an optional feature to check/activate somewhere and leave the default > as it were? > > *Related to atoms/list boxes:* > > - The shortcut for symbol box (cmd+4) is gone, it now load the list box > instead, no shortcut is given for symbol and the next shortcut (cmd+5) is > for comments as before. Why not have list as shortcut cmd+5 and comments > get cmd+6? > > - the symbol box by default now is much wider, I always have to make it > shorter, who needs that big boxes most the time? can't we make the same as > before? > > - something is funny on symbol boxes, if I type a number in it and sendd it > to [float], float does not understand it and cannot convert it anymore to > float. > > - also float/symbol/list boxes. If I type '$0-x' as a send or receive name, > I get '#0-x' when I reopen the preferences. This used to be something that > happened for iemguis and we fixed it, but now these boxes have it. > > - if I type "hi, there" in a list box I get an unescaped (and seemingly > ilegal) "," symbol. > > cheers > > > Em ter., 23 de nov. de 2021 ?s 13:45, Miller Puckette <msp(a)ucsd.edu> > escreveu: > > > I think my e-mails aren't making it to pd-announce for some reason. > > > > Anyway, yes, 0.52-0 test 2 is out :) > > > > Miller > > > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 11:20:16PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > Test it out. http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html > > > > > > > > > now, Miller, I haven't seen announcements from Pd-announce for the test > > > versions as usual, how come? > > > > > > > > > I have some issues I have to report, by the way. > > > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.puredata.info_li… > > > > > > -- > > >

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Scheme for Pd 0.1 binaries up for win and mac
by Iain Duncan 24 Nov '21

24 Nov '21

Hi everyone, I'm excited to announce that Scheme for Pd 0.1 is ready for regular users (I think.... really!). I have binaries up for Mac and Windows, and building from source on Linux should "just work". Scheme for Pd is a Pd port of (most of) Scheme for Max. It enables you to script and live code Pd with s7 Scheme, including working with the scheduler, hot reloading code, and running Scheme code in Pd as a repl. I'm pretty sure I've done the right thing for win32 and win64, one should be able to download the zip file, expand in your externals directory, add this directory to your Pd file paths, and be good to go. It would be lovely if a windows user can try this out and let me know either way. Project page: https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-pd Release: https://github.com/iainctduncan/scheme-for-pd/releases/tag/0.1-beta Special thanks: Miller Puckette (of course) for answering questions while I figured it out. Alex Torres Porres for helping test the packaging Lucas Cordiviola for windows build help Bill Schottstaedt for s7 Scheme enjoy and please let me know how you make out! iain

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Videos on installing Scheme for Pd
by Iain Duncan 24 Nov '21

24 Nov '21

Hi folks, I created a couple of videos walking through installing and getting going on Scheme for Pd in case anyone needs the help. Mac: https://youtu.be/aYgaaZTXZSY <https://youtu.be/aYgaaZTXZSY?fbclid=IwAR3pdJhidTF9k_TTLSEbAm5go9e_0aC_GpNtL…> Windows: https://youtu.be/kqObOwCMyow <https://youtu.be/kqObOwCMyow?fbclid=IwAR343cw4scN3yTnuWce3fBXEeFMAbc3vav8oy…> (It will get to Deken eventually, but right now it takes a few minutes to install. I'm personally not a fan of having things in package managers until they are well tested, so I'd like to see real world usage reports from various folks first.) iain

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