Pd-list July 2020

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Korg nanokontrol studio ?
by gnd 11 Jul '20

11 Jul '20

Hi list, just fishing if anyone on here does have / is using nanokontrol studio with PD ? Im able to read midi data of the device, with some tweaking even in bluetooth mode, but i am not able to send midi back to it (to control button lights :( If someone has dealt with it already, please hit me up ) best, gnd/

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emojis in Pd?
by Alexandre Torres Porres 10 Jul '20

10 Jul '20

Hi, this discussion came up in the facebook group. I was asking people that use other alphabets how they work with it and how Pd handles it. Mostly cause I'm working on cyclone/comment and then people asked me if it could support emojis too. My understanding is that cyclone's comment can do anything, so we tested a bit and saw that Pd Vanilla can actually support some emojis, but not all. Now, not that I'm particularly interested in this feature and would like it to be natively supported in Pd (though yeah, lots of facebook people were excited about it), nonetheless, I have lots of questions and would like to better understand this. Perhaps if not natively in Pd Vanilla itself, one could think about providing an external that fully handles it? But how? Or maybe, since something is already happening (some emojis work, others don't), we could look why it happens, and maybe open a door for full support. And you know, macOS gives the option of emojis as part of the edit menu of Pd! Not sure how windows and linux deal with it... Now, why bother with emojis? I know... seems silly... but other than smiley faces, piles of poo and vomiting, there are some icons that can be useful, like ⏸⏯⏹⏺⏭⏮⏩⏪⏫⏬◀️!!!! These, by the way, are icons that I got working in Pd vanilla on my macOS. And there are also others like math symbols (≥ works too, that's nice!), stuff like arrows ("➜" works too! Seems useful). I couldn't get smiley faces in the patch though 😣 By the way, here's a test patch, see if it works for you (also attached) ============================== #N canvas 176 60 1325 741 36; #X msg 336 52 set ⏸⏯⏹⏺⏭⏮⏩⏪⏫⏬◀️, f 22; #X obj 336 134 cyclone/comment 0 80 dejavu\ sans\ mono empty 0 255 0 0 0 255 0 255 1 0 ⏸⏯⏹⏺⏭⏮⏩⏪⏫⏬◀️; #X text 95 133 cyclone's comment =>, f 10; #X text 287 304 pd's comment => ⏸⏯⏹⏺⏭⏮⏩⏪⏫⏬◀️ ; #X msg 822 431 label ⏯, f 10; #X obj 823 519 s cnv; #X obj 630 412 bng 95 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 630 412 cnv 15 95 95 empty cnv ⏯ 3 54 0 90 -233017 -66577 0; #X obj 630 535 bng 95 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 213 460 send ⏯, f 7; #X obj 209 521 receive ⏯, f 10; #X floatatom 219 399 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 231 591 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X text 490 431 [cnv]:; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 6 0 8 0; #X connect 10 0 12 0; #X connect 11 0 9 0;

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Kettledrums in pd
by Ronni Montoya 10 Jul '20

10 Jul '20

Hi, i was wondering if there are examples of kettledrums done in pd or maybe externals for synthetizing kettledrums in sc3. Any idea? R.

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matlab camera calibration app to Pd
by Csaba Láng 10 Jul '20

10 Jul '20

Dear list, I have found an app on Matlab, which can handle any lens distortion with a fisheye lens. https://uk.mathworks.com/help/vision/camera-calibration-and-3-d-vision.html My camera would send the image through the matlab app to have a flat image which I would like to send to GEM and analize with the pix_movement if there are any changes between the frames. Did anyone try it before? Is it possible to pass through live cam input and send the corrected one to Pd immediately? Hope someone has a good idea or made it before. All the best, Popesz

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[PD-announce] cyclone 0.5-2 is out
by Alexandre Torres Porres 09 Jul '20

09 Jul '20

2nd bugfix release of cyclone 0.5 (released about a month ago) is out! Cyclone 0.5-2 doesn't offer that much. It includes a couple of bug fixes and adds a receive symbol to [scope~]. Inlets to [scope~] are now drawn while in edit mode like in Max. A rudimentary/preliminary properties window is also available for [comment], hopefully next release will have a fancier final one. This bugfix release is specially necessary for those who've been using [comment] since cyclone 0.3 and even more since 0.5 - not much to worry, just start using it soon and resave your patches. I won't get into details of my plans and why, but this will be useful in the long run to improve backwards compatibility. Find all binaries and changelog here, this is already available via deken as well for all platforms. https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/releases/tag/cyclone_0.5-2 cheers _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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comma and escaping revisited
by Max 09 Jul '20

09 Jul '20

Hi list, I found an old thread between m.e.grimm and Roman Haefeli in the archives from 2014-01-26 about escaping in Pd. https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2014-01/105594.html Roman sees this odd behavior in escaping a comma: ----message to print-- \, comma at the beginning; comma\, right after first word; comma in\, the middle; comma at the end\,; ------- gives: ----print-- print: , comma at the beginning print: comma, right after first word print: comma in\, the middle print: comma at the end\, ----/print-- Meaning the backslash can escape the comma when it comes in the beginning or after the first word, but later the escaping character will be part of the printout. Is this a bug? is there an explanation for this inconsistency or should I file an issue for it? Actually this looks related: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/824 m.

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libpd 0.12 Pd core version (0.50-2 or 0.51)
by Dan Wilcox 08 Jul '20

08 Jul '20

Howdy all, I have been admittedly behind in releasing libpd 0.12, mainly as I was waiting on implementing and testing much needed changes for the Obj-C / iOS wrapper. We have generally tried to keep libpd up to date with the current core releases and now that Pd 0.51 is released, it's definitely time to put out what we have for libpd 0.12. My question to those of you using libpd is: Should the next release stay with the current Pd core 0.50-2 or should we skip it and go directly to libpd + Pd core 0.51? -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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adc/dac~ 'set' method on PD and purr data
by Raphael Raccuia 08 Jul '20

08 Jul '20

Hi! since which version of PD the [set( method is implemented for [adc~] and [dac~] ? I'm writing a patch for somedody using purr-data (2.11), but it's not working: / error: adc~: no method for 'set'/ // //thank you! rph //

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print longer messages to console
by Matt Davey 08 Jul '20

08 Jul '20

Is there a flag that can be set, or some other way to allow longer messages to print to console? Am looking at 1000 lines or more.

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Re: [PD] Pd 0.50-2 on macos 11.0 BigSur beta
by Dan Wilcox 06 Jul '20

06 Jul '20

> On Jul 5, 2020, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 22:25:55 +0200 > From: Antoine Villeret <antoine.villeret(a)gmail.com <mailto:antoine.villeret@gmail.com>> > To: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd 0.50-2 on macos 11.0 BigSur beta > Message-ID: > <CAGn5wNdPE4PqDCNiXEQLpP=NTPy33P+e0b=iXvSs8t=pYif6qg(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAGn5wNdPE4PqDCNiXEQLpP=NTPy33P+e0b=iXvSs8t=pYif6qg@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Miller, > > 0.51-0 ? How could I have missed it ? > but this is the same as with 0.50-2 : patcher window is not rendered but Pd > Console does. Try this build: Pd-0.50-0-saveas-fix-tk867.zip <http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/0.51/Pd-0.50-0-saveas-fix-tk867.zip> It may have permissions issues, but you should be able to see if the canvas renders. It's a previous test build with the Tcl / Tk 8.6 frameworks included. Putting aside the fact you are are asking for support for running Pd on the *first beta* of an un-released OS, the likely culprit is, as usual, Tk. The development of Tk on macOS is pretty slow and behind on support using the Cocoa frameworks. Basically, everything worked well with the previous Carbon frameworks, but we still have continuing problems with bugs related to the switch to Cocoa. This is not a "damn Apple changes everything all the time" issue but a "Apple warned us about the transition many years ahead, but everything worked and we didn't bother to deal with it until it was almost too late" issue. My impressions is that there is maybe only 1 or 2 Tk developers keeping things working on macOS. Currently, we are distributing Pd for macOS with the Tcl / Tk 8.5 frameworks included which are built manually and applying a couple of custom patches. This works for now, but is not sustainable as newer systems can longer build Tk 8.5 (mine included) *and* we have perhaps now hit the point to where newer systems will also need a newer version of Tk to run Pd at all. The best solution would be to provide a native Cocoa build with Tk as Cocoa itself is *very* stable in my experience, but that is for another discussion. > I also tried to install XQuartz and run Pd from its terminal. > No more success unfortunately. That will not help as XQuartz has not been needed by newer Pd versions on macOS for many years now. > Don't hesitate to ask me if I can help doing more tests. > And please, avoid buying a Mac... I have intimated this before, but perhaps I should now just say it: Can some institution which relies on using Pd with macOS simply buy Miller and/or the Pd community a new Mac mini to support development efforts on the platform for the next 10 years? This is not too much to ask, especially if you lump it into the "year end" budget category. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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