Pd-list July 2020

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font menu stretch?
by Alexandre Torres Porres 27 Jul '20

27 Jul '20

Hi, in the font menu we have this "stretch" property and I wonder what's behind it. I thought it'd change the spacing between font characters, but no... so, what's the use? Anyway, it also seems to behave badly, as if you change the settings it doesn't get recalled when you open the menu again. This also gets me thinking we should have it in the manual a description for every item in every menu cheers

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[PD-announce] Click Tracker Android App is online
by João Pais 26 Jul '20

26 Jul '20

Hello everyone, 10 years after its first version, the Click Tracker <https://www.facebook.com/Click.Tracker/?__tn__=KH-R&eid=ARCl7bn3oVj5Z1t5CLa…> has gone mobile! The Android App can now be purchased at https://bit.ly/clicktracker-playstore <https://bit.ly/clicktracker-playstore?fbclid=IwAR3NzA74aIhagB9mQFbV72pmZle3…>. Built usingPure Data and libpd, this app delivers the same results as using the original software. For more information, see the website https://bit.ly/click-tracker-mob <https://bit.ly/click-tracker-mob?fbclid=IwAR3u_Idf6kIP2ETB5Vih2AYXPVXCQqSHP…> or ask at clicktracker(a)posteo.org. For the apple-people, an iOS version is being developped. The original software is still available at http://jmmmp.github.io/clicktracker/ <http://jmmmp.github.io/clicktracker/?fbclid=IwAR1tcOOrmboSNprMH849zNCAor85g…> , and you can see ot on facebook - http://j.mp/clicktrackerfb. Click Tracker is a program designed for composers, conductors and instrumentalists working with modern music. The main goal of the software is to prepare a click track of any score, no matter how complex it is. With best regards, João Pais _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Fwd: switch-and-ramp technique
by Sebastian Shader 24 Jul '20

24 Jul '20

Hello, I have an abstraction switchnramp~ in my library shadylib https://github.com/sebshader/shadylib (also on deken) -Seb -----Original Message----- From: Maximiliano Estudies <maxiestudies(a)gmail.com> To: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at> Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2020 12:47 am Subject: [PD] switch-and-ramp technique Hello list, I'm working through "The theory and technique of electronic music" for the second time and having some trouble implementing the switch-and-ramp technique described in 4.3.2. I understand the concept but my current implementation clicks harshly when I retrigger the envelope. Does anybody have an implementation I could look at? -- Maximiliano EstudiesVDT Referat Beschallung +49 176 36784771omslo.com maxiestudies.com _______________________________________________ Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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plot - 1000 element limit?
by Derek Kwan 24 Jul '20

24 Jul '20

Hello list, Long time, no e-mail. It seems there's a limit in [plot] to only plot the first 1000 elements of a struct's array (at least for me on Ubuntu 18.04, pd 0.51)? I was wondering if there was a practical and/or performance-related reason to that limit (and also if said limit could be raised). I might have a weird use case, but I've been building a video player with 16-parameter biometric data associated with each frame so I've been using arrays in [struct]s to store the data and [plot] to plot it all out with a cursor drawn with [drawpolygon] to track the position in the data with the current video position. I've been working with up to 10-12ish minute long videos so that's arrays of about length 11000 with 16 elements per entry each and so I've been breaking the data up into 1000-element to get around that 1000 element limitation. On my 5-ish year old laptop and loading up the data from a text file and plotting everything and togglinng and untoggling plotting certain parameters, the performance isn't so bad, definitely usable (just end up with a horizontally loooong canvas that you have to navigate with a fair bit of scrolling). -- Derek Kwan www.derekxkwan.com

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switch-and-ramp technique
by Maximiliano Estudies 23 Jul '20

23 Jul '20

Hello list, I'm working through "The theory and technique of electronic music" for the second time and having some trouble implementing the switch-and-ramp technique described in 4.3.2. I understand the concept but my current implementation clicks harshly when I retrigger the envelope. Does anybody have an implementation I could look at? -- Maximiliano Estudies *VDT Referat Beschallung* +49 176 36784771 omslo.com maxiestudies.com

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[PD-announce] ELSE 1.0 beta 29 with live electronics tutorial is out.
by Alexandre Torres Porres 23 Jul '20

23 Jul '20

ELSE 1.0 beta 29 with live electronics tutorial is out. This library version needs at Pd version 0.51-0 or above! Most importantly, I fixed a bug in [dir] where it couldn't load absolute paths in windows. I also made nice improvements to [keyboard] and included a new GUI object for text input (messbox), which is like an atom box (where you can insert data while in run mode) but for any kind of message. There's other stuff and breaking changes as usual as this is still a beta project, so check the detailed changelog at https://github.com/porres/Live-Electronic-Music-Tutorial/releases/tag/v1.0-… - where you can download this and earlier versions. You can also get else directly via Pd (in Help => Find Externals). This download also contains the "Live Electronics Tutorial", in a version compatible to this version of ELSE. Find the "Live Electronics Tutorial" folder inside the 'else' folder. cheers _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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fexpr and dollar zero weirdness
by Julián Villegas 20 Jul '20

20 Jul '20

Hi list, I have a program that uses [fexpr~] and values ending in $0, similar to the program in the attachment. When I create the program, it works just as intended. I then save it and close Pd, but when I open the program again some of the “$0" are replaced by “_\$0” breaking the program (as in the pdf I’m also sending, but I’m not sure if you would be able to see it). I can easily edit it again, but every time I reopen the program I have to do the same. I’m using Pd 0.51.0 on macOS 10.15.5 (Catalina). Am I doing something wrong? is this a bug? Additionally, I also have problems when open programs in two different screens: I connect my laptop to a larger screen since my eyes are not so good anymore. If I edit the program in the large screen and save it, next time I try to open it, Pd crashes even before opening the patch. By reading the Pd patch on a text editor, I have detected that this is caused by negative coordinates given to the canvas. I can easily change those by “0” and the program opens again correctly. Is this something I should report as a bug? the thing is that I don’t have a reproducible examples and I think this is highly dependent on the screen setup. However, may be making sure that canvases are not saved with negative coordinates could fix the problem. Thank you for your advice, Julian.

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Purr Data 2.12.0 released
by Jonathan Wilkes 20 Jul '20

20 Jul '20

Hi y'all, Purr Data 2.12.0 has been released. https://github.com/jonwwilkes/purr-data/releases/tag/2.12.0 Changes: * vastly improved window sizing and scrollbar behavior. Now things like the help patches with content that fits in the viewport should load without scrollbars present. (thanks to Ico) * show current text name (if any) in text editor for [text define] * ported [text define] "send" method from Vanilla * ported [text insert] from Vanilla * ported [dac]/[adc] set method from Vanilla * added French translation and improve German translation (thanks to Albert and Joseph Gastelais) * ensure plot traces remain in the bounding box of the graph (thanks to Ico) * ported "symbol" method for [float] from Vanilla * added "type hints" for errors wrt unusual or problematic Pd messages. This includes * symbol atom which would be parsed as a float if found in a Pd file * same thing but with symbol messages, e.g., "symbol 43" * empty symbol messages "symbol" * empty symbol selector "" * null selector * symbol atoms/messages with weird "floatlike" data that would underflow/overflow if loaded by a Pd file. * ported "send" methods from Vanilla for [int], [float], and [value] * document the "tempo" messages for relevant objects * fixed a crasher with pasting from Pd patch file (thanks to Ico) * fixed a long-standing crasher where editing an open GOP window would hide everything except the patch cords under certain circumstances * an object/gop being edited now has the same size as one that isn't being edited (thanks to Ico) * fixed keyboard shortcut for dropdown that caused problems for some keyboard types (thanks to Albert) * fixed ggee/image border selection when on GOP * fixed long-standing bug with route where a bang wouldn't get sent to the reject outlet * fixed bug where nested gops erroneously showed a selection rectangle * fixed a crasher with resizing a nesting GOP when dragging with the mouse * custom scrollbars from Pd-l2ork 1.0 (thanks to Ico) * increased gatom character width to 160 * fixed off-by-one problem with iemgui label positions * fixed bar graph display when graph has its own window * made a larger hitbox for xlet connection for easier patching (thanks to Ico) * make default CSS match pd-l2ork 1.0 style * different, "greyed-out" style for inlet hover (as an inlet can't begin a connection with a mouse, but an outlet can) Best,Jonathan

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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 184, Issue 36
by Shahrokh Yadegari 20 Jul '20

20 Jul '20

Hi Julian, I think this is a bug in expr code. Incidentally I just recently noticed it as well. I have not had a chance to find the bug yet, but as a work around if you add spaces before and after the variables that have the $0, your patch should open fine. I am listing your patch below which I edited accordingly and it opens fine. Let me know if you are still seeing a problem. Cheers, Shahrokh #N canvas 950 538 450 300 12; #N canvas 961 878 744 300 something 1; #X floatatom 302 68 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 517 67 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 67 35 inlet~; #X obj 87 98 fexpr~ if((CR_\$0 > HT_\$0) \, CG_\$0 = $f3* CG_\$0 + (1-$f3)*$ x1 \, 0) \; if((CA_\$0 > HT_\$0) \, CG_\$0 = $f2* CG_\$0 + (1-$f2)*$x1 \, 0), f 62; #X connect 0 0 3 1; #X connect 1 0 3 2; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X restore 88 89 pd something; #X obj 250 59 v CG_\$0; #X obj 83 46 noise~; #X obj 252 95 v CA_\$0; #X obj 248 131 v CR_\$0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 5:08 PM <pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at> wrote: > Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to > pd-list(a)lists.iem.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list__;… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pd-list-owner(a)lists.iem.at > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. fexpr and dollar zero weirdness (Julián Villegas) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 08:57:24 +0900 > From: Julián Villegas <villegas.julian(a)gmail.com> > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at > Subject: [PD] fexpr and dollar zero weirdness > Message-ID: <E5F4A1BC-CDD9-4950-B20A-E4371A6E6D1B(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi list, > > I have a program that uses [fexpr~] and values ending in $0, similar to > the program in the attachment. > When I create the program, it works just as intended. I then save it and > close Pd, but when I open the program again some of the “$0" are replaced > by “_\$0” breaking the program (as in the pdf I’m also sending, but I’m not > sure if you would be able to see it). I can easily edit it again, but every > time I reopen the program I have to do the same. > > I’m using Pd 0.51.0 on macOS 10.15.5 (Catalina). Am I doing something > wrong? is this a bug? > > Additionally, I also have problems when open programs in two different > screens: I connect my laptop to a larger screen since my eyes are not so > good anymore. If I edit the program in the large screen and save it, next > time I try to open it, Pd crashes even before opening the patch. > By reading the Pd patch on a text editor, I have detected that this is > caused by negative coordinates given to the canvas. I can easily change > those by “0” and the program opens again correctly. Is this something I > should report as a bug? the thing is that I don’t have a reproducible > examples and I think this is highly dependent on the screen setup. However, > may be making sure that canvases are not saved with negative coordinates > could fix the problem. > > > Thank you for your advice, > > > Julian. > > > > >

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Re: [PD] Pd 0.50-2 on macos 11.0 BigSur beta
by Dan Wilcox 17 Jul '20

17 Jul '20

Ok cool. I will make a test build with Tcl/Tk 8.6.10: Pd-0.51-0-tk8610.zip <http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/0.51/Pd-0.51-0-tk8610.zip> On my system, I can confirm that the canvas window background is no longer white by default, so IOhannes patch to force this is required. > On Jul 15, 2020, at 11:25 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 11:25:37 +0200 > From: Antoine Villeret <antoine.villeret(a)gmail.com <mailto:antoine.villeret@gmail.com>> > To: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd 0.50-2 on macos 11.0 BigSur beta > Message-ID: > <CAGn5wNcmGG2mEZAW_s9DUmeDnkjEmuPhpjTYsdioF3_iDVFDkg(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAGn5wNcmGG2mEZAW_s9DUmeDnkjEmuPhpjTYsdioF3_iDVFDkg@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > You're right Dan, using Wish 8.6.10 works. > 8.6.7 doesn't. > > So upgrading WIsh is the key. > > Thanks for your support > > Best > > Antoine -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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