Pd-list February 2017

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cross platforms issues with displaying fonts in vanilla but not in Purr Data
by Alexandre Torres Porres 15 Feb '17

15 Feb '17

howdy, been using pd in mac over a decade but now I got a PC with windows & linux and I did some tests and found some issues, I was discussing this in a ticket in sourceforge* but thought it was best to bring it to this list. First thing I noticed is that in linux the text font was quite bold and wider, this compromised the visuals as the text does extrapolate the patch file area, see 1st attachment, comparing a file in mac and linux (1-MACxLINUX.png) - mac is the left part, linux is the right part with a circle mark showing how it extrapolated the area of the patch; this also comprises the alignment of patches, cause it's the same font used inside objects, so they get wider, anyway, it does interfere and it'd be nice if all patches would load just fine in any platform, hence my posting here... Moving on, I also noticed that linux uses "Deja Vu Sans Mono", and how in mac that is somehow substituted to "Monaco". More over, windows can't find "Deja Vu" and prints a warning saying it loaded "courier" instead. Though I think windows looks pretty bad with the courier font, there doesn't seem to be the same kind of conflict as the font spacing seems to be the same - see 2-windows.png attachment. Now, as far as Purr Data goes, tested it in all systems, and they all come with "Deja Vu Sans Mono" and they all look quite nice and the same!!! I wonder why don't we have the same thing going on for vanilla, where they all carry the same font! Then I kept testing, did check Pd-Extended, which I think didn't have any similar issues like Purr Data, but then something funny happened. After trying Extended in windows, I reopened vanilla and now it does find the "Deja Vu Sans Mono" font, it doesn't print any warning and doesn't load courier instead anymore. So what happens? It looks "bad" and exactly like linux! See 3-win_dejavu.png attachment. What intrigues me is that Purr Data (or Pd-l2ork) does load "Deja Vu Sans Mono" for all platforms and even so the patch does not look "bad" like that, as an example, I'm attaching a print screen from pd-l2ork in Linux (4-l2ork.png), to show that it doesn't look like the linux part of the image from 1-MACxLINUX.png So, I'm a little confused as why using this "deja vu" font does promote such a visual difference in vanilla (as shown in linux and windows) but not in Pd-l2ork or Purr Data (and maybe even extended). I consider it a "bug", an important issue on how patches behave in cross platforms, even if it is just a visual (font display) issue. I just hoped we could make vanilla laod the same fonts in all platforms and that patches would all look the same as in Purr Data, what's preventing it from happening? thanks cheers * this is the ticket I'm also discussing this issue in https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1270/

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Re: [PD] autotools, fonts, etc
by Dan Wilcox 15 Feb '17

15 Feb '17

> On Feb 15, 2017, at 8:20 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at <mailto:zmoelnig@iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] autotools, fonts, etc > Date: February 15, 2017 at 6:52:03 AM MST > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > > you will have to check out the "osx-retina-support" branch (which > currently lags behind signficantly) I updated it with master last night. *Pretty* sure I merged all the .tcl alt-modifiers changes correctly… :) -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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autotools, fonts, etc
by me.grimm 15 Feb '17

15 Feb '17

some of these threads are getting too complicated to keep up on.... can we get some clarity which i guess could be answered with a "yes/no": so Dans osx retina/autotools changes are now at github so: $ git clone https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data.git config, make, etc $ cd mac $ osx-app.sh -i 0.47.1 should do it... .... and i assume all the font stuff getting discussed is not part of this m

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[canvas] has 1 pixel error.
by Lucas Cordiviola 15 Feb '17

15 Feb '17

[canvas] has 1 pixel error. Attached image & also here: http://lucarda.com.ar/x/canvas-1px.jpg Results measured with Photoshop ruler. Seems that we are counting from 0?. Anyway good to know for other tests. Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

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Re: [PD] purr-data installation on linux(ubuntu 16.04)
by oscar santis 15 Feb '17

15 Feb '17

Try with PPA https://launchpad.net/~dr-graef/+archive/ubuntu/pd-l2ork.xenial Best Óscar Santis escultor, pintor, músico ruidista http://www.oscarsantis.com +56 9 75802965 El 15/02/2017 07:36, <pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at> escribió: Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to pd-list(a)lists.iem.at To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at You can reach the person managing the list at pd-list-owner(a)lists.iem.at When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. purr-data installation on linux(ubuntu 16.04) (Jonghyun Kim) 2. Re: pd from git coredumps on ubuntu 16.10 (alex tuca) 3. Re: cross platforms issues with displaying fonts in vanilla but not in Purr Data (Roman Haefeli) 4. Re: cross platforms issues with displaying fonts in vanilla but not in Purr Data (Roman Haefeli) 5. Re: pd from git coredumps on ubuntu 16.10 (alex tuca) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 17:08:48 +0900 From: Jonghyun Kim <agitato816(a)gmail.com> To: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at> Subject: [PD] purr-data installation on linux(ubuntu 16.04) Message-ID: <CAC8jf9eS9hNeWSY6iq-qj51mw-sw5ySP7CYN-Xp-RONVm-DBMA(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi list, I've got an error installing purr-data on ubuntu 16.04. $ sudo gdebi pd-l2ork-2.0-ubuntu_16.04-x86_64.deb Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done *This package is uninstallable* *A later version is already installed* $ FYI, I have already installed: pd-l2ork 20160614 I tried purr-data from this site: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/tree/master How to solve it? Thanks, akntk

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pd from git coredumps on ubuntu 16.10
by alex tuca 15 Feb '17

15 Feb '17

hallo, i just compiled pd from git git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/pure-data compiled it with jack: ./configure --enable-jack i deleted the .pdsettings file, when i change audioengine to jack, pd core dumps. here the strace output. select(9, [7], [], [], {0, 5000}) = 0 (Timeout) select(9, [7], [], [], {0, 0}) = 0 (Timeout) select(9, [7], [], [], {0, 0}) = 0 (Timeout) select(9, [7], [], [], {0, 0}) = 0 (Timeout) select(9, [7], [], [], {0, 0}) = 0 (Timeout) select(9, [7], [], [], {0, 0}) = 0 (Timeout) select(9, [7], [], [], {0, 5000}) = 1 (in [7], left {0, 2520}) recvfrom(7, "pd audio-setapi 5;\r\n", 3593, 0, NULL, NULL) = 20 --- SIGSEGV {si_signo=SIGSEGV, si_code=SEGV_MAPERR, si_addr=0} --- +++ killed by SIGSEGV (core dumped) +++ Segmentation fault (core dumped) pd core dumps also when i start it with: strace pd -nomidi -jack open("/dev/midi8", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/dev/midi8", O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/dev/midi08", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/dev/midi08", O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/dev/midi9", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/dev/midi9", O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/dev/midi09", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/dev/midi09", O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) rt_sigaction(SIGALRM, {SIG_IGN, [], SA_RESTORER, 0x7fad3b792630}, NULL, 8) = 0 setitimer(ITIMER_REAL, {it_interval={0, 0}, it_value={0, 0}}, NULL) = 0 --- SIGSEGV {si_signo=SIGSEGV, si_code=SEGV_MAPERR, si_addr=0} --- +++ killed by SIGSEGV (core dumped) +++ Segmentation fault (core dumped) does anybody experiences the same problem? any idea how to solve this? best, alexander

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purr-data installation on linux(ubuntu 16.04)
by Jonghyun Kim 15 Feb '17

15 Feb '17

Hi list, I've got an error installing purr-data on ubuntu 16.04. $ sudo gdebi pd-l2ork-2.0-ubuntu_16.04-x86_64.deb Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done *This package is uninstallable* *A later version is already installed* $ FYI, I have already installed: pd-l2ork 20160614 I tried purr-data from this site: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/tree/master How to solve it? Thanks, akntk

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Re: [PD] help compiling vanilla on mac
by Dan Wilcox 15 Feb '17

15 Feb '17

If you’re tyring to build from the current git master, you’ll be out of luck. Try my autotools_updates branch: git clone https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data.git -b autotools_updates cd pure-data ./configure make make app -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> > On May 17, 2016, at 10:43 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [PD] help compiling vanilla on mac > Date: May 17, 2016 at 9:43:42 PM MDT > To: pd-lista puredata <pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:pd-list@iem.at>> > > > so, i installed homebrew, autoconf and aclocal, was able to run ./autogen.sh now, trying ./configure, I get > > ./configure: line 16002: syntax error near unexpected token `JACK,' > > ./configure: line 16002: ` PKG_CHECK_MODULES(JACK, jack, have_jack=yes, have_jack=no)' > > configure: error: ./configure failed for portaudio > > > I get the same if i try: ./configure --enable-jack > > > so, is this an error in the source? > > cheers

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Purr Data released!
by Jonathan Wilkes 15 Feb '17

15 Feb '17

Hi list, Purr Data is now released. Purr Data inherits the goodness of Pd-l2ork and runs on Gnu/Linux, Windows, and OSX. Infinite undo, enhanced editing and 2d drawing, and most of the the externals from Pd-extended (plus more from Pd-l2ork). New since rc5: * fixed display bug with [vu] on graph-on-parent canvas * fix documentation for timer-help.pd * fix "open" method for [ggee/image] * default to the user's home directory on OSX app bundle * open the help browser file browser in the doc folder * add a canvas "Print" menu item (under "File" menu) * allow option to save the zoom level with the canvas * fix a data structure crasher Get binaries here:https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data-binaries/tree/master -Jonathan

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Re: [PD] cross platforms issues with displaying fonts in vanilla but not in Purr Data
by Dan Wilcox 14 Feb '17

14 Feb '17

FYI image attachments don’t work on the list, at least for me. > On Feb 14, 2017, at 1:37 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27(a)hotmail.com <mailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [PD] cross platforms issues with displaying fonts in vanilla but not in Purr Data > Date: February 14, 2017 at 1:36:59 PM MST > To: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>> > Cc: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > > > Attached Screen-shot, > > Note that the modified .tcl is using bold font, but you can imagine the normal font. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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