Pd-list February 2017

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Re: [PD] deken and windows
by Dan Wilcox 18 Feb '17

18 Feb '17

> Now, going back to that FAQ link <http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files <http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files>>, I guess we can replace it with something more up to date, and maybe include a section "how install via Pd (deken)". > > Thus we'd have a general way of installing externals that are not available in deken, but also how to use and manage deken. It’s a wiki page. If you have a puredata.info account, you should be able to update it. If you don’t have permission, bug IOhannes. :) > but I wonder if there's a way for Pd to allow us to go there. There certainly is, but seems it won't be too simple… +1 on this. There should be a simple way to open the current externals folder, like how many macOS applications have a option to “Show in Finder” for various content. This could be a button in the deken panel or a menu option in Help, etc. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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deken and windows
by Alexandre Torres Porres 18 Feb '17

18 Feb '17

hi, new at windows, trying to download externals from deken in windows, but if I tell it to download to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Pd\extra\" it says it is not a writeable folder... where does deken usually install externals in windows? cheers

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CMMR 2017: 2nd Call for Contributions
by Gilberto Bernardes 17 Feb '17

17 Feb '17

[apologies for multiple postings] Dear all, This is the 2nd Call for Participation for the 13th International Symposium on Computer Music Multidisciplinary Research (CMMR 2017) which will be held in *Porto and Matosinhos, Portugal, on September 25th–28th, 2017*: http://cmmr2017.inesctec.pt CMMR 2017 is organised by the Sound and Music Computing Group at INESC TEC, the Orquestra Jazz de Matosinhos (OJM) and AMU – CNRS – PRISM. The theme of CMMR 2017 is *Music Technology with Swing*. CMMR will take place at CARA - (Centro de Alto Rendimento Artístico) in Matosinhos. It is CARA’s mission to promote the dialogue between art, science and technology, namely through multidisciplinary projects that aim at the research and development of solutions for the creation, fruition and dissemination of creative content. By hosting CMMR at CARA we seek to mirror these aims by bringing together a diverse and vibrant community of researchers and musicians that encapsulate the different perspectives of computer music multidiscplinary research. The conference includes a scientific programme with oral presentations, posters and demos. It also features a music programme with daily concerts, including one by the Orquestra Jazz de Matosinhos. The confirmed keynote speakers for CMMR 2017 are: Peter Vuust (Aarhus University, Denmark), Margaret Schedel (Stony Brook University, USA), Carlos Guedes (New York University Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates) and Amílcar Cardoso (University of Coimbra, Portugal). We invite submissions for papers, music, and demos that span the field of multidisciplinary music research, but especially those aligned with the conference theme. The full list of topics and further instructions about the preparation of submissions can be found here: http://cmmr2017.inesctec.pt/call-for-contributions/call-for-papers/ http://cmmr2017.inesctec.pt/call-for-contributions/call-for-music/ http://cmmr2017.inesctec.pt/call-for-contributions/call-for-demos/ In addition to the main technical programme, we are delighted to solicit contributions for the following special sessions: *Virtual reality and music*: (organiser) Stefania Serafin *Electronic Dance Music*: (organiser) Jason Hockman *Research and creation: spaces and modalities*: (organisers) Christine Esclapez, Nicolas Darbon and Julien Ferrando *Sound in practice: Auditory guidance and feedback in the context of motor learning and motor adaptation*: (organisers) Marta Bieńkiewicz, Christophe Bourdin and Lionel Bringoux For further details see: http://cmmr2017.inesctec.pt/call-for-contributions/ special-sessions/ All submissions in both the scientific and music tracks will be subject to peer review. Submitted papers must conform to the CMMR 2017 templates which are available on the conference website. Please note the following important dates: *9th April, 2017* - Paper / Music / Demo submission deadline *9th June, 2017* - Notification of acceptance *2nd July, 2017* - Camera-ready deadline *9th July, 2017* - Author registration deadline *28th July, 2017* - Early Registration deadline *25th - 28th September, 2017* - CMMR Conference All accepted papers will be hosted online and selected papers will appear in post symposium proceedings which are published by Springer Verlag in the Lecture Notes in Computer Science Series. We will also have musical proceedings with 360° audiovisual recordings of the concerts. If you have any questions about CMMR 2017, please contact the Symposium Chairs at: cmmr2017(a)lists.inesctec.pt We greatly look forward to receiving your submissions, and welcoming you to Porto and Matosinhos in September! Best wishes, Matthew Davies & Rui Penha Symposium Chairs -- Gilberto Bernardes, Ph.D. Post-Doctoral Researcher at INESC TEC Associate Professor at IPCB

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Menu bar height (differences across platforms)
by Roman Haefeli 17 Feb '17

17 Feb '17

Hey all While we're at it, during testing font metrics on different platforms, I noticed that menus are quite different. On Linux, the menu bar height is 30px, on Windows 19px. Personally, I find the 30px ugly and too large. Can this be made consistent across platforms, too? Roman

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Re: [PD] Question about loadbang and dynamic sub-patches
by David 16 Feb '17

16 Feb '17

Thanks, works perfectly! David. On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Christof Ressi <christof.ressi(a)gmx.at> wrote: > [loadbang] doesn't fire in dynamically created patches. > The easiest workaround: use [iemguts/initbang]. > > Christof > > > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2017 um 17:18 Uhr > Von: David <dfkettle(a)gmail.com> > An: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at> > Betreff: [PD] Question about loadbang and dynamic sub-patches > > Hi! > > I have a question about the expected behaviour of loadbang when it's used > in a sub-patch that's built dynamically. It appears that it isn't getting > triggered. I've attached a simplified example. > > Should it get triggered? Does anyone know of a workaround for this? In > other words, something that's functionally equivalent? I want certain > events to happen once when I build a sub-patch dynamically, to initialize > some objects. I guess I could use creation arguments to do that, but I'd > rather not have to do that. > > Thanks, > David. > _______________________________________________ Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at > mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >

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Re: [PD] Error opening properties dialogue of 'flatgui/knob'
by Dan Wilcox 16 Feb '17

16 Feb '17

Looks like it’s sending the colors using the old int method instead of the new 0.47+ hex string. The external needs to be updated to use the new color format based on the version of Pd it’s compiled for. > On Feb 15, 2017, at 11:02 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: David <dfkettle(a)gmail.com <mailto:dfkettle@gmail.com>> > Subject: [PD] Error opening properties dialogue of 'flatgui/knob' > Date: February 15, 2017 at 11:02:04 AM MST > To: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > > > Hi! > > Whenever I try to open the properties dialogue for a 'flatgui/knob', I get an error message in the console log. The dialogue box does open, but the bottom part with the colour palette and the Cancel/OK buttons isn't displayed. You can see an example in the attached screen prints (I just used the knob-help file to reproduce the error). > > I'm running PD 0.47.1 under Windows 7. Is anyone else getting this error? I'm not sure if anyone is maintaining this library, so I don't know who to report it to. > > Thanks, > David. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS
by Dan Wilcox 16 Feb '17

16 Feb '17

This is a good idea, I would suggest using a public google doc or pirate pad and we can add the link to the top of the issue. Please *do not* flood the Github discussion with constant posts. If/when a doc is created, send me the link so we can all stay on the same (virtual) page. > On Feb 15, 2017, at 9:40 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > On 2017-02-15 16:20, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > > Cool, thanx for the screen-shot. > > how about collecting the metrics information on some webpage (e.g. a > github ticket [1]). > i'm pretty sure that most of us have been lost in the recent mail storm :-) > > ghsm dr > IOhannes > > [1] e.g. the recent [WIP] pull-request by Dan might be a start: > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/42 <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/42> > > or even better: create a new issue with the sole purpose of collecting > metrics. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Error opening properties dialogue of 'flatgui/knob'
by David 15 Feb '17

15 Feb '17

Hi! Whenever I try to open the properties dialogue for a 'flatgui/knob', I get an error message in the console log. The dialogue box does open, but the bottom part with the colour palette and the Cancel/OK buttons isn't displayed. You can see an example in the attached screen prints (I just used the knob-help file to reproduce the error). I'm running PD 0.47.1 under Windows 7. Is anyone else getting this error? I'm not sure if anyone is maintaining this library, so I don't know who to report it to. Thanks, David.

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Re: [PD] autotools, fonts, etc
by Dan Wilcox 15 Feb '17

15 Feb '17

I plan to update the install.txt with up to date info on how to build Pd. master branch ------------------- In the meantime, the steps to build from a git clone of master are: ./autogen.sh ./configure make By default, it will build for the current platform architecture, usually 64 bit. If you want 32 bit, add this configure flag before making: ./configure --enable-universal=i386 To build a mac app, you would normally be able to run “make app” but, as I mentioned in my previous email, there is currently a bug, so you should call the app builder script directly: cd mac osx-app.sh -i 0.47.1 osx-app-fix branch ------------------------ The app builder problem is fixed in the osx-app-fix branch if someone wants to merge that. osx-retina-support branch ---------------------------------- For those that want to experiment with building Pd for a newer Tk 8.6 Wish.app, you can install my test builds from http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ <http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/> Otherwise, you can build from the branch directly (in this case for 32 bit): git clone https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data.git <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data.git> -b osx-retina-support cd pure-data ./configure --enable-universal=i386 make Now that Pd is built, you can either build the mac app using the included Tk 8.4 Wish via: make app Of you can build a Wish.app for a newer version of Tcl/Tk and use that instead. To do this, you have to call the scripts manually instead of through make (the following downloads and builds a 32bit Tk 8.6.5 Wish.app and uses that to create the Pd app): mac/tcltk-wish.sh --arch i386 8.6.5 mac/osx-app.sh --wish Wish-8.6.5.app 0.47.1 Both scripts have extensive help which you can check via: mac/tcltk-wish.sh --help mac/oex-app.sh --help dejavu branch ------------------ I put the prelim font work in a branch called “dejavu” from the master branch. It currently only has changes on Mac and bundles the font inside the .app when you build the Pd .app. > On Feb 15, 2017, at 6:09 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: "me.grimm" <megrimm(a)gmail.com <mailto:megrimm@gmail.com>> > Subject: [PD] autotools, fonts, etc > Date: February 15, 2017 at 6:09:48 AM MST > To: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > > > some of these threads are getting too complicated to keep up on.... > > can we get some clarity which i guess could be answered with a "yes/no": > > so Dans osx retina/autotools changes are now at github so: > > $ git clone https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data.git <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data.git> > > config, make, etc > > $ cd mac > $ osx-app.sh -i 0.47.1 > > should do it... > > > .... and i assume all the font stuff getting discussed is not part of this > > m -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS
by Lucas Cordiviola 15 Feb '17

15 Feb '17

Cool, thanx for the screen-shot. >I don't know where are the fonts. When I use startup flag font-face "DejaVu Sans Mono", Pd don't like the " ... " I don't know if you know this issue. I think you already have DejaVu font Didnt know that “...” doesn't work on Linux, seems to not work on any OS, that's probably Tcl. But you can cd to your /usr/local/lib/pd/bin from the command line an do: pd - font-face "DejaVu Sans Mono" Note that I`m not a Linux user. Salutti, Lucarda. Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. ________________________________ From: Jérôme Abel <abel.jerome(a)free.fr> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 2:50 PM To: lucarda27(a)hotmail.com Subject: Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS Hi, Thanks for your job. The font system seems not homogen between platforms... In attachment the screenshot of your patch. I've a pd compiled for git sources. I've just take your pd-gui.tcl inside my /usr/local/lib/pd/tcl folder. It seems better for me. I don't know where are the fonts. When I use startup flag font-face "DejaVu Sans Mono", Pd don't like the " ... " I don't know if you know this issue. Best -- Jérôme Abel http://jeromeabel.net http://reso-nance.org

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