Pd-list January 2017

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atom_getsymbol
by Ricky Graham 09 Jan '17

09 Jan '17

Hi all, I’d like to use atom_getsymbol to get some text from an object on creation. I’m using A_DEFSYMBOL for the moment and *s seems to print to console but I can’t seem to figure out how to get type t_symbol into an array. atom_string seems to work with A_GIMME but that seems redundant as I’m only passing one symbol. Any ideas? Ricky

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"AIFF floating-point file format unavailable"
by Alexandre Torres Porres 09 Jan '17

09 Jan '17

when trying to write an aiff in soundfiler with the -bytes 4 flag I get: AIFF floating-point file format unavailable I just wanna be sure, is this a restriction of AIFF format or Pd? cheers

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Graphical envelope generator with breakpoints
by Roman Haefeli 09 Jan '17

09 Jan '17

Hey all I'm wondering if someone implemented a graphical envelope generator with mouse-draggable breakpoints. I think it probably could be done using data structures, however my stumbling block is that I can't think of a way to disallow point movement to x(n) > x(n+1), respectively x(n) < x(n-1). Preferably, it would allow to create new breakpoints in between existing breakpoints (as opposed to new breakpoints being appended to the end of the list). I'm not so much looking for the perfect solution, but wondering what is already there. Cheers Roman

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New Blankets Support: *PdCon, *Pd-weekends, *Artists-in-Transit *equipment grants -- and more
by Joe Deken 08 Jan '17

08 Jan '17

Dear generous folks of PdLand, In 2017, New Blankets has started a *Daily Benevolent Webcast* which will spotlight community organizations that are working to build communities in a free/open way. - You can see our the netcast-of-the day shows directly from the New Blankets website: http://newblankets.org - Every day New Blankets and other sponsors will be offering a *challenge grant.* If you pledge a contribution for the feature community-organization on the day of the webcast, your contribution will be doubled (matched 1-1) by New Blankets and its sponsors, up to the amount of the challenge grant for that day. - With this message, I'm particularly alerting Pd-list to two upcoming shows of interest: * On Saturday *January 7 the netcast will benefit *New Blankets Initiatives in Europe* and work to build on some New Blankets launch activities already begun this past summer in Hebden Bridge UK. -- The guest on the January 7 show will be our own blanketeer and Pd stalwart, *Julian Brooks*. * On Saturday *January 15 the NB Benevolent netcast show will be dedicated to promote: *-- Widening the Worldwide Welcome to Puredata --* and the guest on January 15 will be Miller Puckette, whom some of you may have heard of. Please drop by http://newblankets.org and listen if/when you care to. (We've _attempted_ to keep these netcasts under ten minutes, more or less.) If you wish to help any of the New Blankets featured "good causes" on any given day of the netcasts, you may pledge any amount you choose: Simply send a message to calendar(a)newblankets.org and be sure to state the amount of your pledge in the "Subject:" line. ........................ (Once you've made a pledge by simple e-mail, your actual donation must be received within two weeks to be eligible for the 1-1 match funds. You may pay with paper checks or PayPal or most anything. -- If you need more info on how-to-pay after a pledge, -- please just send an inquiry to calendar(a)newblankets.org and we can provide more info about that.) ........................ By the way ... If you yourself have other "good causes" that you regularly donate to, you might consider passing the organization's information along to New Blankets. Perhaps NB can find a sponsor for a challenge grant and devote a day to your own additional "worthy causes," as well as those we've already identified for the New Blankets Benevolent Netcasts. Cordially Joe Deken

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by None 07 Jan '17

07 Jan '17

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As many of you know, Andy's book includ= es dozens of practical sound design examples that are implemented in Pure= Data, and it also features a very comprehensive Pd tutorial for beginner= s. I am hoping that the above site will be useful not only for students, but= also for other educators. It includes lecture outlines, assignment instr= uctions, quizzes with and without solutions, and lots of other content - = all released under OpenCourseWare's Creative Commons BY-NC-SA license (ht= tps://ocw.mit.edu/terms/). Particularly useful for people interested in Andy's book might be the *le= cture slides* at https://ocw.mit.edu/ans7870/21m/21m.380/s16/MIT21M_380S16_lec_slides.pd= f The slides contain recreations of many of the Pd patch figures from Andy'= s book, which have been recreated from the code examples accompanying the= book at https://mitpress.mit.edu/sites/default/files/titles/content/ds_pd_examp= les.tar.gz The best news are that *the slides link the patch figures from Andy's boo= k to the corresponding Pd patches* (which can otherwise be a little trick= y to locate). Pages 3+4 in the PDF include instructions on where to place= slides and unpacked tarball on your hard drive, such that you can open a= n example in Pd simply by clicking on the play button in the correspondin= g figure caption (using a suitable PDF viewer). I am very grateful to Curtis Newton and the other folks at MIT OpenCourse= Ware, who have been incredibly patient and meticulous in the preparation = of this course. 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dumping array content, pitched down, to a new array without using metronome?
by Esa Ruoho 07 Jan '17

07 Jan '17

Hi, I have an array that I'm playing at say 0.017 speed (sending 0.017 to a phasor~ set to cycle through the 65536 -sized array. I'm hoping to find out how to get this pitched down array content to be written to an array - so i can then dump it to a wavefile and use it on another software. How would I go about doing it? so far i have a solution where i have a metronome that runs for $1 (in this case, a calculation of 65536*0.017 = 1114112) and i toggle it "on" and when the array has been written to, i toggle it off. I was attempting to have a delay toggle the toggle off, so the metronome would stop counting around 1114102, but when i tried to loop this through back into the TGL -object, Pure Data crashed fully. Are there other ways of dumping the exact length of this sample into a wavefile, without using tabwrite~ and metronomes? Could this calculation be done to a writesf~ maybe? i'm hoping to emerge with no repetitions of the array, just a single shot of the array, with the proper length, so it plays from start to finish. -- --- http://twitter.com/esaruoho // http://lackluster.bandcamp.com // +358403703659 // skype:esajuhaniruoho // http://esaruoho.tumblr.com/ // iMessage: esaruoho(a)gmail.com //

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Send/Receive topology design
by Jérôme Abel 06 Jan '17

06 Jan '17

The [clone] object is really nice to use and to understand. It helps me to organize messages from parent to children objects, and balance between cord/cordless messages. Thanks for developping this object. Best, -- Jérôme Abel http://jeromeabel.net http://reso-nance.org

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[PD-announce] Application deadline approaching: the MS and PhD degrees in music technology at Georgia Tech
by Jason Freeman 06 Jan '17

06 Jan '17

[apologies for cross postings] Georgia Tech is now accepting applications for the MS and PhD programs in music technology for matriculation in August 2017. All PhD students, and a limited number of MS students, receive graduate research assistantships that cover tuition and pay a competitive monthly stipend. The deadline for applications is January 10, 2017. The MS in Music Technology is a two-year program that instills in students the theoretical foundation, technical skills, and creative aptitude to design the disruptive technologies that will enable new modes of music creation and consumption in a changing industry. Students take courses in areas such as music information retrieval, music perception and cognition, signal processing, interactive music, the history of electronic music, and technology ensemble. They also work closely with faculty on collaborative research projects and on their own MS project or thesis. Recent students in the program have worked and/or interned at companies such as Apple, Google, Avid, Dolby, Bose, Gracenote, Pandora, Sennheiser, Ableton, and Spotify, and gone on to PhD studies. Applicants are expected to have an undergraduate degree in music, computing, engineering, or a related discipline, and they should possess both strong musical and technical skills. Students in the PhD program in Music Technology pursue individualized research agendas in close collaboration with faculty in areas such as interactive music, robotic musicianship, music information retrieval, digital signal processing, mobile music, network music, and music education, focusing on conducting and disseminating novel research with a broad impact. PhD students are also trained in research methods, teaching pedagogy, and an interdisciplinary minor field as they prepare for careers in academia, at industry research labs, or in their own startup companies. PhD applicants are expected to hold a Masters degree in music technology or from an allied field, such as computing, music, engineering, or media arts and sciences. All applicants must demonstrate mastery of core masters-level material covered in Music Technology, including music theory, performance, composition, and/or analysis; music information retrieval; digital signal processing and synthesis; interactive music systems design; and music cognition. Both the MS and PhD programs are housed within the School of Music at Georgia Tech, in close collaboration with the Georgia Tech Center for Music Technology (GTCMT). The GTCMT is an international center for creative and technological research in music, focusing on the development and deployment of innovative musical technologies that transform the ways in which we create and experience music. Its mission is to provide a collaborative framework for committed students, faculty, and researchers from all across campus to apply their musical, technological, and scientific creativity to the development of innovative artistic and technological artifacts. Core faculty in the music technology program include Gil Weinberg (robotic musicianship and sonification), Jason Freeman (participatory and collaborative systems, education, and composition), Alexander Lerch (music information retrieval and digital signal processing), Timothy Hsu (acoustics), Frank Clark (multimedia and network music), and Chris Moore (recording and production). More information on the MS program is at: http://www.music.gatech.edu/academics/graduate/overview More information on the PhD program is at: http://www.music.gatech.edu/academics/phd/overview More information on the GTCMT is at: http://www.gtcmt.gatech.edu To apply, please visit: http://www.gradadmiss.gatech.edu/apply/ To contact us, please visit: http://www.gtcmt.gatech.edu/contact-us _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] include libpd? (Re: plans for Pd 0.48)
by Dan Wilcox 05 Jan '17

05 Jan '17

> On Jan 5, 2017, at 2:08 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at <mailto:zmoelnig@iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] include libpd? (Re: plans for Pd 0.48) > Date: January 4, 2017 at 12:51:31 PM MST > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > > > On 01/04/2017 04:02 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Jan 4, 2017, at 4:00 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> wrote: >>> >>> the important question is of course, whether the various language >>> wrappers would be able to use a common libpd.so - if not, the entire >>> exercise might be moot. >> >> On platforms with dynamic linking (*nix, non-iOS), this should be no problem. > > yes of course. > btw, i thought that iOS does have dynamic linking (you surely don't > statically link in libc, do you?), it's only dlopen() that is missing. Yeah. I mean more you >> >>> afaict, the wrappers currently use static linking, but that might just >>> be for convenience reasons. >> >> Yes. I want to add building dynamic libs but thought to do so with a move to autotools. > > right. > >> >>> it would be interesting to hear peter and dan (or some other libpd >>> experts) on this. >> >> I see two options: >> >> 1. Have the pd core, as required by libpd, built as a separate dynamic lib. >> We could do this with the recent autotools updates relatively easily. Then >> vanilla as well as libpd and it's wrappers all link to the same lib. Downside >> is you’re required to install the puredata package to use libpd. This then >> brings up the idea of could the core be it’s own separate package that the >> others all use? > > i'm not entirely sure what you mean with "package" in this context. I mean more a Debian package. > there would be a "libpd" binary package and a separate "puredata-core" binary package. the latter might use the former. > (and it might as well not; the only relation the two debs ought to have > is that they are built from the same source package) Ok. My thinking is we just add a configure option to build the core as a separate lib. That would be the easiest approach in the short term. >> This leads to option 2. >> >> 2. The pd core is split out as a separate library which the gui and the libpd wrappers all use. >> At that point, it’s basically libpd. Downside here of course is figuring out what makes the most >> sense in regards to future development (ie. is this desired?) and plainly doing the work. This is >> probably the best overall approach going forward and was touched upon > by some of the discussions >> at the pd con, but I might be afraid of “breaking things that work.” :) > > isn't this the same as what i proposed "on the long run”? Yeah. Just confirming. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Nonlocal shared symbol ?
by Jérôme Abel 05 Jan '17

05 Jan '17

Hi, I would like to get the value of a symbol anywhere/anytime in all my projects (few patches and abstractions) like [value] for numbers. And like include a constant file in classical programming. Is it possible ? Thanks, -- Jérôme Abel http://jeromeabel.net http://reso-nance.org

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