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Re: [PD] Obfuscate patch?
by Dan Wilcox 12 May '16

12 May '16

You could go the computer game approach and use a custom binary packing algorithm where you compress all of that data into a single file which your program then unpacks when it runs everything. That is assuming that you have a sort of main program that runs the system. People *might* reverse-engineer your format (ie. the DOOM WAD file), but probably the number of people interested in doing so will be small. Since pd patches are just text files, you could use any text to binary encoding format etc. This of course starts heading into encryption territory, but that’s a whole other thing there... -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> > On May 12, 2016, at 1:47 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > So, the only thing I can do... is to obfuscate as much I can. > > Python: strings, keys, values, functions, classes, etc > Blender: objects, bones, scenes, materials and textures names, inserting extra scenes, textures, etc > JSON: everything. > PureData: send/receive names, messages from/to Blender, moving boxes, adding extra objects, etc. > > And, of course, all that obfuscated names have to be the same between the files.

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Re: [PD] error installing Pd 0.47 OSX
by Dan Wilcox 12 May '16

12 May '16

I can confirm the latest commit bindings are working fine for me. It’s definitely a “go figure” thing, but if binding to both works for Safari, Chrome. etc then it’s good enough for Pd. :) (At least it’s easier than doing some sort of locale based checking…) -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> > On May 11, 2016, at 10:52 PM, Dan Wilcox <Daniel.Wilcox(a)du.edu> wrote: > > I think it means, as per IOhannes’ mail, that we should bind to both + and =. That’s what the web browsers do to get around this problem. Sorry it didn’t occur to me with my US-centric keyboard mentality ;P > > I will, however, reiterate that Shift and + is awkward and unneeded on the US keyboard. > > -------- > Dan Wilcox > EDP Visiting Teaching Assistant Professor > Shwayder 215 > @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> > danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> > robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> >> On May 11, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Miller Puckette <msp(a)ucsd.edu <mailto:msp@ucsd.edu>> wrote: >> >> That was in response to the opposite feedback I was getting, for instance >> here: >> >> https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-05/114538.html <https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-05/114538.html> >> >> ... so does this mean Pd should zoom in for either cmd-= OR cmd-+? >> >> cheers >> Miller >> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 09:17:45PM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: >>> On 05/11/2016 07:47 PM, Marco Matteo Markidis wrote: >>>> Moreover, zoom in function works with cmd+= (not with cmd++). >>> >>> i can confirm this on linux. >>> on a german keyboard layout, one of the test-releases did zoom with >>> <kbd>Ctrl</kbd>-<kbd>+</kbd>, but in the final release it has become >>> <kbd>Ctrl</kbd>-<kbd>=</kbd> :-( >>> >>> gmrds >>> IOhannes >>>

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Obfuscate patch?
by Mario Mey 12 May '16

12 May '16

Is already done any external/abstract/external-program that obfuscate a Pd patch? I mean, by changing the place of every object, changing names of send/receive objects to random generated names, adding more objects to make very hard to understand, etc...?

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Re: [PD] error installing Pd 0.47 OSX
by Dan Wilcox 12 May '16

12 May '16

> Dan your autotools update is great. I installed all with no problem. Moreover I done make app; great news! > > Some general observation on OS X compilation: I get several warnings, like: > a) libtool: warning: libobj name 'pd~.lo' may not contain shell special characters. That’s not a problem, just libtool not liking the tilde in the file name. The rest are just a few warnings in PoartAudio, also not major problems. The real issue with PA is that it still relies on the deprecated Carbon framework and we ignore those warnings for now. > So, great work! Thanks. I have a script now which will download and build Tk for you. For some reason, one combination of Tk + Pd (universal maybe) I tried, suddenly made Gem work again. I’ll see if I can find that combo again… -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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ICLI 2016 - Registration open
by thor 12 May '16

12 May '16

3rd International Conference on Live Interfaces School of Media, Film and Music - University of Sussex, Brighton. Dates: June 28th - July 2nd, 2016. Website: www.liveinterfaces.org Registration is now open for the International Conference on Live Interfaces in Brighton this summer. This biennial conference brings together people working with live interfaces in the performing arts, including music, the visual arts, dance, puppetry, robotics or games. The conference scope is highly interdisciplinary but with a focus on interface technologies of expression in the area of performance. Topics of liveness, immediacy, presence (and tele-presence), mediation, collaboration and timing or flow are engaged with and questioned in order to gain a deeper understanding of the role contemporary media technologies play in human expression. The conference consists of paper presentations, performances, interactive installations, poster demonstrations, a doctoral colloquium and workshops. Works engaging with the principles and assumptions governing interaction design, including perspectives from art, philosophy, product design and engineering are specially invited. Keynotes: - Stuart Nolan (magician) - Kristina Andersen (instrument maker) - Roman Paska (puppeteer) Workshops: - Magnetic Resonator Piano (Andrew McPherson) - The halldorophone (Halldor Ulfarsson) - Sound and Space: Performing Music for Organ and Electronics (Lauren Redhead and Alistair Zaldua) - A Practical and Theoretical Introduction to Chaotic Musical Systems (Tristan Clutterbuck, Tom Mudd and Dario Sanfilippo) - Making High-Performance Embedded Instruments with Bela and Pure Data (Giulio Moro, Astrid Bin, Robert Jack, Christian Heinrichs and Andrew McPherson) - Distributed Agency in Performance (Paul Stapleton, Simon Waters, Owen Green and Nicholas Ward) - Interfacing the Txalaparta Workshop (Enrike Hurtado) The conference, including performances and installations, will take place at the newly renovated Attenborough Centre for the Creative Arts. We will publish final performance, installations and paper programme when closer in time. There is a doctoral colloquium on Wednesday 29th of June and a Brighton Modular Meet on Sunday, 3rd of July. We look forward to welcome you to the University of Sussex for the ICLI conference this summer. Best, Thor --- Thor Magnusson Department of Music School of Media, Film and Music University of Sussex http://www.sussex.ac.uk/profiles/164902 http://www.ixi-audio.net https://twitter.com/thormagnusson ---

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error installing Pd 0.47 OSX
by Marco Matteo Markidis 12 May '16

12 May '16

Dear list, I'm trying to install new Pd 0.47 on OS X. After ./autogen.sh && ./configure --enable-jack --enable-fftw, I get during make this error: make[2]: *** No rule to make target `pm_win/pmdll.h', needed by `all-am'. Stop. make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 It looks like trying to work on portmidi for Win. Some time ago I installed successful Pd 0.46.7 (without getting this error...). One more thing: in 0.47 there is the new autotools written by Dan? Thanks. Best regards, Marco

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pdvst new release : pd as plugin vst
by Jean-Yves Gratius 12 May '16

12 May '16

Hi, I have updated pdvst project from Joseph Sarlo and recompiled it (with mingw) for pd 0.46.7 and vst 2.4 specification. You can download a first release (for windows) here : https://sourceforge.net/projects/jygsdownloads/files/pdvst/ I tested and debugged it with Reaper and ableton Live 8.0.4. Any other feedback welcome. jyg PS: To Pd-devs : Like in jsarlo's work, the changes applied to Pd source code are very few. Some extra code was added for 2 new dlls (vst-plug and Vst-scheduler) . I would like to release the source code, but I am not very familiar with github and forks creation. Any hints, where to publish ?

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Re: [PD] error installing Pd 0.47 OSX
by Dan Wilcox 11 May '16

11 May '16

You could try my autotools_updates branch: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/16 <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/16> I’ve been fixing a number of things but it’s not yet ready to be merged into Pd itself. Get it with: git clone https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data.git <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data.git> -b autotools_updates If you wait a couple of hours, I will send out links to some experimental builds of Pd for OSX. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> > On May 11, 2016, at 1:30 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Marco Matteo Markidis <mm.markidis(a)gmail.com <mailto:mm.markidis@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [PD] error installing Pd 0.47 OSX > Date: May 11, 2016 at 11:47:56 AM MDT > Cc: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > > > Dear all, > > I manage to compile removing the two Windows lines from Makefile in portmidi folder from here: > > nobase_noinst_HEADERS = \ > pm_common/pminternal.h \ > pm_common/pmutil.h \ > pm_common/portmidi.h \ > pm_linux/pmlinux.h \ > pm_linux/pmlinuxalsa.h \ > pm_mac/pmmac.h \ > pm_mac/pmmacosxcm.h \ > porttime/porttime.h > > However, Pd actually doesn't see the documentation folder. > Moreover, zoom in function works with cmd+= (not with cmd++). > > Best regards, > > Marco

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PortMidi 'Invalid Device ID'
by Dustin Rose 11 May '16

11 May '16

I have been having this issue (maybe non-issue) for some time. Here is my set up: Teensy 2.0 MIDI Device Pd 0.46.7 Late 2013 Macbook Pro I am using a Teensy MIDI device in Pd. If I connect the Teensy device, then launch Pd, I get the following error message in Pd's print window : could not open midi input 0 (Teensy MIDI): PortMidi: 'Invalid device ID' could not open midi output 1 (Teensy MIDI): PortMidi: 'Invalid device ID' Under my MIDI settings I have "Teensy MIDI" selected both as my input and output. If I re-select "Teensy MIDI" in both dialogs of the MIDI preferences menu, and hit OK the same error message will reappear in Pd's print window. If I select "none" for both input and output I do not get any error messages. Though I get this error, it seems to not effect the use of the device in any way. When I connect the device to a windows machine, I don't have this PortMidi error message. I have also connected this device to my iPhone using MobMuPlat, no issues. Any advice would be helpful. Thank You, Dustin

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Re: [PD] [clone]'s instance number
by Liam Goodacre 11 May '16

11 May '16

Hah, great that this feature exists already! I'm happy using $1 and renumbering other creation arguments accordingly. Putting at the end would seem a little confusing, since it would be a different number each time. > Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 08:49:54 -0700 > From: msp(a)ucsd.edu > To: christof.ressi(a)gmx.at > CC: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at; zmoelnig(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] [clone]'s instance number > > I gave this some thought but couldn't come up with anything more natural than > the "$1" idea. It allows for changing the other arguments more easily than > it would have been if the instance number were passed last. Also, somehow > it felt more natural to have the instance number first. > > If there's interest in the idea, I could add arrguments to change the > behavior (such as putting $1 last instead of first)... Offhand I doubt that > would get used much though. > > cheers > Miller > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 05:26:21PM +0200, Christof Ressi wrote: > > There's also a pitfall: additional creation arguments for the cloned abstraction will start with $2. > > For example, in [clone 16 my-abstraction 1 5 9] '1' will be parsed as $2, '5' as $3, '9' as $4 etc. > > No problem, if the abstraction was written for being used with [clone], but bad when cloning existing abstractions. > > > > I'm wondering if there could be a way to get the abstraction ID without messing up existing abstractions... Maybe have a dedicated object? > > > > For now, I think it's important to mention the parsing of additional creation arguments in the help file. > > > > Christof > > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2016 um 16:25 Uhr > > > Von: "IOhannes m zmoelnig" <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> > > > An: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at > > > Betreff: Re: [PD] [clone]'s instance number > > > > > > On 2016-05-11 16:18, Liam Goodacre wrote: > > > > Would it be possible to access [clone]'s unique instance number from within the patch, a bit like a creation argument? This could be used to achieve differentiation between the abstractions, ie. if the abstraction contains "tabread4~ $-1.array" and the $-1 is replaced with the instance number, then each instance could read a different file. Of course there are other ways of doing this, but it would be neat to do it with clone, and I'm wondering if there's a way. > > > > > > > > > isn't this what $1 is already doing in clone's instances? > > > > > > > > > fgasdmr > > > IOhannes > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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