Pd-list May 2016

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Proposal new default linux desktop config path
by Winfried Ritsch 19 May '16

19 May '16

This is not urgent and can wait until next version but since already discussed, here my proposal: Like discussed in "[PD] Preferred/best practice for loading external objects" thread also config files should be made to freedesktop standard conform like described in https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html from $(HOME)/.pdsettings to (suggestion) $(HOME)/.config/pd/settings.conf so configs from one computers home can be copied to another on migration, upgrade. mfG Winfried Ritsch -- -- - ao.Univ.Prof. DI Winfried Ritsch - ritsch(a)iem.at - http://iem.at/ritsch - Institut fuer Elektronische Musik und Akustik - University of Music and Dramatic Art Graz - Tel. ++43-316-389-3510 (3170) Fax ++43-316-389-3171 --

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bang~ and long-running calculations
by Jonathan Wilkes 19 May '16

19 May '16

Hi list,Has anyone ever used [bang~] as an engine to break up long-running control calculations? For example, suppose I analyze the incoming signal and choose the most suitable among 10,000 melodies to play in response. If I search in logical time I'll probably get a dropout. However, if I rewrite the patch to use [bang~] and [5,000(--[until] to do the same calculation, I cut the number of calculations per block in half. As I test the patch I can keep halving that number until I no longer get dropouts. If the resulting time to finish all the calculations is a suitable delay for my melodic response, I'm good. More importantly, I'm deterministically good, as the calculation is guaranteed to complete in the allotted time. (Although I am of course not guaranteed that the audio won't drop out.) Seems clunky, but maybe it's useful for some situations... -Jonathan

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[clone]'s instance number
by Liam Goodacre 19 May '16

19 May '16

Would it be possible to access [clone]'s unique instance number from within the patch, a bit like a creation argument? This could be used to achieve differentiation between the abstractions, ie. if the abstraction contains "tabread4~ $-1.array" and the $-1 is replaced with the instance number, then each instance could read a different file. Of course there are other ways of doing this, but it would be neat to do it with clone, and I'm wondering if there's a way.

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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 134, Issue 119
by Dan Wilcox 19 May '16

19 May '16

> ... so I guess it can't be done on your system. (I'm using 10.6 to compile. > I always keep my MacOS as old as I possibly can so that when I compile Pd > it can run on the widest possible number of machines.) > > But perhaps you can add teh > -Wno-deprecated -Wno-error C compiler flags to makefile.mac and get away > with it anyhow…? This does not work as the CFLAGS do not propagate down to the portaudio configure step. Trust me, I spend quite a while on getting that to work... -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] help compiling vanilla on mac
by Dan Wilcox 19 May '16

19 May '16

> On May 18, 2016, at 7:48 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [PD] help compiling vanilla on mac > Date: May 18, 2016 at 7:22:43 PM MDT > Cc: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > > > 2016-05-18 18:14 GMT-03:00 IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at <mailto:zmoelnig@iem.at>>: > On 05/18/2016 08:36 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > anyway, if I try "make" from "./src", I still get the same error > > i have no clue why you think that this should work. > it shouldn't. > > good to know... I got the idea from the text in install.txt > > Alternatively, you can use the fallback makefiles in “src" Right. The install instructions have not been updated with the new info yet. I can also fix src/makefile.mac but didn’t want to touch those yet. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] dump contents of array to list in pd vanilla? [tabdump]
by Dan Wilcox 19 May '16

19 May '16

See u_tabdump in rc-patches: https://github.com/danomatika/rc-patches/tree/master/rc <https://github.com/danomatika/rc-patches/tree/master/rc> It uses the Pd 0.46+ [array size] and may not be the fastest approach but it works. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> > On May 18, 2016, at 7:48 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Paul Keyes <spskeyes(a)gmail.com <mailto:spskeyes@gmail.com>> > Subject: [PD] dump contents of array to list in pd vanilla? [tabdump] > Date: May 18, 2016 at 7:48:01 PM MDT > To: Pd-List <Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > > > Is there a way to dump the contents of an array to a list in pd vanilla? Equivalent to what [tabdump] does? > (Other than using [tabdump] from zexy)

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Re: [PD] help compiling vanilla on mac
by Dan Wilcox 19 May '16

19 May '16

> On May 18, 2016, at 7:20 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > - pledge your OS-vendor to not deprecate half of their API with each new > release That’s not Apple here. They’ve deprecated Carbon since 10.7 which was many *years* ago now but you can still link to it. In fact, I’m still surprised it’s still available in OSX 10.11. The real issue is portaudio not being updated as the new APIS have been available for *years now* as well :) -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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dump contents of array to list in pd vanilla? [tabdump]
by Paul Keyes 19 May '16

19 May '16

Is there a way to dump the contents of an array to a list in pd vanilla? Equivalent to what [tabdump] does? (Other than using [tabdump] from zexy)

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help compiling vanilla on mac
by Alexandre Torres Porres 19 May '16

19 May '16

howdy, would a dear friend guide me though all steps in compiling vanilla on a mac. I need a good soul who can walk me through all the walls I hit. And I hit a wall with the first thing I did... I tried ./autogen.sh and got ./autogen.sh: line 22: autoreconf: command not found then I tried to see how to use makefile.mac and just couldn't do it thanks

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no float in audio 2nd inlet
by Alexandre Torres Porres 19 May '16

19 May '16

howdy, can you code an object that prevents a secondary audio inlet from accepting float? maybe this relates to a different question already posted here, where we needed an object with a float method for a secondary audio inlet, by the way, we just hit a wall there and got nowhere. The suggestion was to use a "proxy inlet" - but if the right/proxy inlet has a signal input it overrides the other declared methods. Declaring the proxy inlet as a non signal inlet would make it allow the new methods, but it wouldn't be a signal inlet... maybe something was done wrong? With this idea working, guess it's easy to create a float method just to filter out float input and print an error. cheers

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