Pd-list January 2012

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consecutive meeting PdCon2011 team
by Max 12 Jan '12

12 Jan '12

Friday 17h is a final meet up of the PdCon11 team in Trierer Straße 5, Weimar. If anyone is around and wants to join, feel welcome to but drop me a line before. Max

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how to tidy up patches ?
by Marco Donnarumma 12 Jan '12

12 Jan '12

Pd has something called "elegant patching".... :P No, I'm kidding, but Pd patches developed properly looked wonderful really. Just learn to organize conceptually and in the patch your ideas in a consistent flow. Splines, and corners help to hide lack of organization, imho. and anyway, I recall a plugin for pd 43 that hide chords in run mode. my 2 cents, M > > is there any option in PD to make complex patches look less messy ? > > for example in MAX you can hide all the connections in performance mode.. > > in VVVV - you can spline the hords > > in MAX you also can make hords with different angles.. and so on.. > > is there any way in PD to tidy it all up ? > > i can't find it. > > maybe it is really something to do ? > > thnx , serg ! >

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linux install advice please
by Richie Cyngler 12 Jan '12

12 Jan '12

Hi Listers, I'll be running an intro to Pd workshop at the Melboure Mini Maker Faire this Saturday http://makerfairemelbourne.wordpress.com/ as well as showing off some of my Arduinstruments and hacks. I will be providing the install files to participants on usb sticks but having (shamefully) not used Linux yet I'm wondering if JACK is required with Ubuntu or Debian installs? (I have grabbed the install info page from pd.info as well.) I'd like to make sure I'm as prepared as possible assuming terrible web access. Any advice is appreciated. thanks -- Richie

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Make pd_include_HEADERS install
by Bjoern Lindig 12 Jan '12

12 Jan '12

Hi, I don't understand why, but I cannot make the pd_include_HEADERS install at all. The only include-file that is installed it m_pd.h. I checked the Makefile in src/, but I did not find any reason for this missbehaviour. What I need is especially the s_stuff.h. During './configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man --includedir=/usr/include --enable-alsa --enable-jack' (I tried both, with and without the --includedir option) I get this warning: config.status: WARNING: 'makefile.in' seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting Is that related in any ways? During make and make install everything looks just fine. Does anybody else encounter this problem? I'm on archlinux. Any help would be highly appreciated! Best, Bjoern P.s. please tell me, if you need more information, like the output of 'make install' or something similar.

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visiting new york
by Renato Fabbri 12 Jan '12

12 Jan '12

Dear Devolters, PDers and Chuckers, I am in NYC until 14/Jan and would really appreciate some advice on our art (music) & open tech events, places, gatherings, presentations etc. Glerm just gave me this advice http://www.eyebeam.org/ (a green bird told me Hans Steiner works there). I've heard some years ago that there is a Church here that plays change ringing, I found nothing about a event on this coming days (didn't search that much either..). All the best and cheers, rfabbri _o_o_ oOo _o_o_ -- GNU/Linux User #479299 labmacambira.sf.net

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Re: [PD] how to tidy up patches ? (?????? ????????)
by Alexandre Torres Porres 12 Jan '12

12 Jan '12

> is there any option in PD to make complex patches look less messy ? not really. What you have to do is be able to design the patches with method, and think about it. I personally don't see this as a restrain, or something serious we should worry about in doing it. I can easily get lost when MAX's chords are not just a straight line explicitly telling you where it's coming from and going to. And hiding chords or patch bits can be a lot like throwing the mess under the carpet. A code in order to be really clean and tidy needs to be well organized, rewritten, and just clear. So, all you got is subpatches and send objects. Just do hundreds of subpatches, it can be really good for making you have to think about designing an organized patch, it may be better than being allowed to, lets say, "cheat" and pretend is not messy. but that's me... cheers alex

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status of 123 - 125 (curly braces) keycodes?
by Scott R. Looney 11 Jan '12

11 Jan '12

hi folks- being new to PD i just discovered this rather curious inability to form any kind of message using a Curly brace - { or }. luckily the GUI doesn't crash like before but it refuses to type the characters. can someone update me on whether that will be addressed anytime soon, or if not, explain how i could send a statement containing these characters to udpsend via packOSC? i guess i don't have to see them or print them but they at least have to be sent. this is sort of important to anyone wanting to address dynamic interface creation via JSON as shown by Charlie Roberts in this Max MSP example: http://charlie-roberts.com/Control/?p=292 Control is the completely open source variant of closed source projects like TouchOSC and is much more extendable, as it's completely based on HTML5, CSS and JSON. i'm currently in the process of porting his demo patch of dynamic interface creation he made up to PD from Max. anyway if anyone has some answers i'd appreciate it - thanks in advance! scott

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[OT] a request for stats
by Dave Phillips 11 Jan '12

11 Jan '12

Greetings, I'm preparing an article on activity in the Linux audio world and would like to know how many of you are using Linux for your soundwork. I'm not asking if you use *only* Linux, I'm just interested in whether it is a significant factor in your audio production. I don't want to clog the lists, so feel free to respond directly. (Though it's possible I'm not the only person who'd like to know the figures.) Best, dp

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Re: [PD] no pd?? WTF ????
by David 11 Jan '12

11 Jan '12

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the "student discount" version of Max expire (ie, stop working) after one year? So even though it might seem like a great deal, it really isn't that great. I'm not religiously opposed to commercial software, but I try to avoid it as much as possible. As for the sponsors of this competition, if they really are willing to accept submissions in PD provided the winner shows up in person, why don't they say so upfront? And if the winning submission is in Max, they don't have to show up? Seems a little disingenuous to me. </End of my 2 cents>

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line~ x vline~
by Alexandre Torres Porres 11 Jan '12

11 Jan '12

It says that vline! is a "high-precision audio ramp generator", how is it better and more precise than line~ ? Are there advantages for using it to read samples in a tabread4~ ? thanks alex

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