Pd-list January 2012

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Re: [PD] GEM on PIII memory problem?
by rolf meesters 18 Jan '12

18 Jan '12

found it: Ubuntu/ Xorg is the culprit (partly?). in the 'default' situation at start-up Xorg first recognizes the Intel810 and loads the Intel-driver, but after that concludes that it wants a VESA driver. when i made a xorg.conf to change the amount of VideoRam, the loading of the VESA driver was gone, but in GEM my pictures were completely white, only the background color was visible. where outside GEM everything looked normal. this was finally solved by defining a Depth in Xorg.conf. probably the lack of this parameter made GEM say: using 8 color bits. rolf in case somebody is confronted by this same problem my Xorg.conf is hereby included. Section "Device" Identifier "imonitor" Driver "intel" VideoRam 16384 EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "imonitor" Monitor "Generic Monitor" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" EndSubSection EndSection

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Re: [PD] 0.43 on Ubuntu Lucid: GUI not right
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 18 Jan '12

18 Jan '12

Looks like you have the full debug log viewable. What happens if you switch your log level to '2 - normal'? Are those messages still visible? Are things like 'outputrolf' abstractions in a patch you are loading? Or what are they? .hc On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:05 AM, rolf meesters wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> wrote: > > I'm not sure I know what the tclpd-loader messages are, can you copy and > paste them to an email reply? > > > here they are > (this is in Ubuntu Lucid) > > global objectclass path > libdir_loader: added 'chaos' to the global objectclass path > PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.7 > tclpd loader: searching for outputrolf in path... > tclpd loader: searching for outputrolf/outputrolf in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for 1a-unit in path... > tclpd loader: searching for 1a-unit/1a-unit in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for rpitch in path... > tclpd loader: searching for rpitch/rpitch in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for stilte in path... > tclpd loader: searching for stilte/stilte in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for randomperiode in path... > tclpd loader: searching for randomperiode/randomperiode in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > expr, expr~, fexpr~ version 0.4 under GNU General Public License > tclpd loader: searching for bepaalpunt in path... > tclpd loader: searching for bepaalpunt/bepaalpunt in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for timeseed in path... > tclpd loader: searching for timeseed/timeseed in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > [time] part of zexy-2.2.5 (compiled: Jan 11 2012) > Copyright (l) 1999-2011 IOhannes m zmölnig, forum::für::umläute & IEM > tclpd loader: searching for envlopje in path... > tclpd loader: searching for envlopje/envlopje in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for bron-notes in path... > tclpd loader: searching for bron-notes/bron-notes in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for brondna in path... > tclpd loader: searching for brondna/brondna in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for timeseed in path... > tclpd loader: searching for timeseed/timeseed in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for timeseed in path... > tclpd loader: searching for timeseed/timeseed in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for 1a-unit in path... > tclpd loader: searching for 1a-unit/1a-unit in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for rpitch in path... > tclpd loader: searching for rpitch/rpitch in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for stilte in path... > tclpd loader: searching for stilte/stilte in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for randomperiode in path... > tclpd loader: searching for randomperiode/randomperiode in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for bepaalpunt in path... > tclpd loader: searching for bepaalpunt/bepaalpunt in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for timeseed in path... > tclpd loader: searching for timeseed/timeseed in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for envlopje in path... > tclpd loader: searching for envlopje/envlopje in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for bron-notes in path... > tclpd loader: searching for bron-notes/bron-notes in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for brondna in path... > tclpd loader: searching for brondna/brondna in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for timeseed in path... > tclpd loader: searching for timeseed/timeseed in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > tclpd loader: searching for timeseed in path... > tclpd loader: searching for timeseed/timeseed in path... > tclpd loader: found nothing! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers

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Re: [PD] French Traduction
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 18 Jan '12

18 Jan '12

I added maxn as an admin to the transifex puredata project. Also, currently the puredata project is set to be wide open, so any contributor can make edits and additions to any translation. We can change that if people want, it can be team-based or other things. I don't really know. Even better, if someone could take over the admin of the transifex project and leave me out of it :-D .hc On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 20:22 +0100, Max wrote: > i'm maxn at transifex.net. add me > > m. > > Am 17.01.2012 um 20:03 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: > > > > > With many people, I think it might be easiest to use transifex for the > > translations. It is like github for translations. And its all free > > software. Just send me your accounts, and I'll add you to the project. > > > > https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/puredata/ > > > > .hc > > > > On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 19:34 +0100, Tom Javel wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> no problem ; we have time ; and it should be great that most part of > >> french speaking community accept the translation. I asked on codelab > >> forum ; but i didn't get many responses. Let us begin the negotiations > >> ! > >> > >> 2012/1/17 Pierre-Olivier Boulant <po.boulant(a)free.fr>: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> We had a look last nigth with Olivier Heinry, we have a few suggestions to > >>> make, but little time for this before Friday. I'll get back on this as soon > >>> as I can. > >>> There were a few odd things in the list that didn't sound really natural in > >>> our use or that were incorrect. > >>> > >>> à bientôt... > >>> Pierre-Olivier > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 17/01/2012 18:19, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I don't understand French at all. When y'all are ready for this to be > >>>> included in Pd-extended, assign the patch to me 'eighthave' in the patch > >>>> tracker and I'll include it. > >>>> .hc > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >

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[grid] not working in pd-extended 0.43.1
by Antonio Roberts 18 Jan '12

18 Jan '12

I downloaded pd-extended 0.43.1~cvs20120116-1 and added the [grid] object. All goes well until I try to change the object's properties. Pressing Ok, Cancel or Apply produces an "Error: invalid command name "pd" message with the following error message: invalid command name "pd" invalid command name "pd" while executing "pd $cmd" (procedure "grid_apply" line 32) invoked from within "grid_apply .gfxstub88093f0" invoked from within ".gfxstub88093f0.buttonframe.apply invoke" ("uplevel" body line 1) invoked from within "uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]" (procedure "tk::ButtonUp" line 22) invoked from within "tk::ButtonUp .gfxstub88093f0.buttonframe.apply" (command bound to event) The object works perfectly fine otherwise Ant -- ============================ antonio(a)hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ============================

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0.43 on Ubuntu Lucid: GUI not right
by rolf meesters 18 Jan '12

18 Jan '12

hi i don't know if this is a bug or a misfit. compiled latest 0.43 source on Ubuntu Lucid (Pentium 4). a GEM patch works faultlesly. with one audio patch, the GUI stays half finished, soundwise the patch seems ok. in the console there are red messages apparently from Tcl. (attached pic1). closing the patch generates a new message over and over: x97fc258 no such object (pic2). with another audio abstraction the GUI is correct, also all included abstractions. closing the patch generates again endlessly:x8483958 no such object. a third patch: audio ok, no GUI at all. it's not possible to change something in the console. here again like in pic1: Tcl UNHANDLED ERROR: wrong # args: should be "::pdwindow::logpost object_id level message" all patches are happy in 0.42.5 on W-XP and on 0.43.1-2011103 on Windows 7. bug or misfit? rolf

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translation activity
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 17 Jan '12

17 Jan '12

There seems to be a flurry of translation activity right now, with updates to Hungarian, French, Italian, and German and new languages added: es_ES, es_MX, ca, ko, and lv. If you are the speaker of one of these languages, check out the updates and make comments, suggestions, improvements, etc. https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/puredata/ For now, the transifex project is wide open to any contributor. We can change that to team-based permissions if anyone wants. Even better, if someone could take over the admin of the transifex project and leave me to work on other Pd things :-D .hc

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French Traduction
by Tom Javel 17 Jan '12

17 Jan '12

Hello, I finished the french translation ; it's not 100% literally : i tried to make as short as english on screen and easy to understand ; it looks good on my macbook ; there's one or two strings i'm not sure at all as "Defeat real-time scheduler" and "Use Callbacks" ... I changed strings from previous contributors (like Cyrille Henry) to get something homogeneous ; it's should be great to talk about it to define the ultimate french version ;-) You can contact me : tom.javel(a)gmail.com nicolas.danet(a)free.fr https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=55736&atid=478072

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how to compile Pd-ext 43 without SSE2?
by rolf meesters 17 Jan '12

17 Jan '12

i would like to build Pd-ext 43.1 for my PIII, i.e. without SSE2 support, but on a bit faster machine. i've looked in the makefile's, however i cannot figure out where and how to set a parameter for it. rolf

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Re: [PD] GEM on PIII memory problem?
by rolf meesters 17 Jan '12

17 Jan '12

Subject: Re: [PD] GEM on PIII memory problem? > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Message-ID: <4F1442F1.70606(a)iem.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2012-01-16 15:51, rolf meesters wrote: > > > > and now every time at a change in the rendering: > > GL: invalid operation > > is that with the intel gfx card? > the PIII has onboard video > could it be a dupe of [1]? > not as far as i can see. (i use fresh copies) i suspect [1] has something to do with using the pd open or close 'message' with a non-existing file. or what does "every time at a change in the rendering" mean exactly? > > every time the content of the GEM-window should change > try to find the object that actually causes the error. > you can use a [GEMglReportError] that will output a warning if an error > was raised since the last time any instance of [GEMglReportError] was > called (the error state is also reset inside [gemwin] during each > render-cycle..which is what causes the message to appear) > > it's not clear to me how to use this object, there's no help. connecting the inlet with a loadbang causes Pd/GEM to quit immediately. leaving the object by itself, with a print on the first outlet, gives nothing. i tried to use more then 16 k for the VideoRam: this also causes Pd/GEM to quit at rendering the first picture. just now i found in the system message.log after the crash: pdextended[1702]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp bfcc1acc error 4 in libpulse.so.0.12.2[110000+40000] doing it again: pdextended[2045]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp bfb87f3c error 4 in libasound.so.2.0.0[110000+c3000] going back to the default VideoRam (= no changes made by me) pdextended[1431]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp bfe1aecc error 4 in libICE.so.6.3.0[110000+15000] should i make a bug report on this? (i'm on Pd-ext 42.5 with GEM 92.3) rolf

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Re: [PD] GEM quirky-ness on OS X
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 16 Jan '12

16 Jan '12

It seems to me that this should feature prominently in the docs somewhere. Something like "[pix_movie] is for special cases where you want to enable certain optimizations that don't work everywhere". Or even better, it would be great if [pix_movie] did work everywhere. .hc On Jan 16, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Pall Thayer wrote: > Yes. This fixed the problems I was having. > > On Jan 16, 2012 3:40 PM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <hans(a)at.or.at> wrote: > > I have found that [pix_movie] does this on many machines, but using [pix_film] connected to a [pix_texture] works everywhere. > > .hc > > On Jan 7, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Pall Thayer wrote: > > > Hi Chris, > > > > Thanks for the suggestion but that didn't work. > > > > Some other weird issues are that my ".mov" file worked fine on linux > > but not at all on OS X. The only thing that would play it was VLC so I > > used that to transcode it and was able to get it working (albeit with > > the flashing) in other formats. But I noticed that when the frame > > motion was backwards, it would cause clicking in the audio. So I ended > > up transcoding it to jpeg and that got rid of the clicking but I still > > get the flashing. > > > > Any more suggestions? > > > > Pall > > > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:26 PM, chris clepper <cgclepper(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Are you doing any pix_ processing? Sometimes still frames get double > >> processed causing unintended results. It has to do with Quicktime not > >> always giving the right indication that a new frame was delivered. Throw a > >> pix_separator in the chain and see if that does anything. > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Pall Thayer <pallthay(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi list. > >>> > >>> I'm working on a piece that's most likely going to be shown on a Macs > >>> running OS X and I'm running into a strange issue with GEM. The piece > >>> involves a short video clip that moves back and forth amongst the > >>> frames. As long as it's moving between frames, everything is fine. But > >>> as soon as it stops somewhere, it starts alternating between the > >>> correct colors and their opposites causing it to flash. This doesn't > >>> happen on linux, only on OS X. Anyone know why this is happening and > >>> how I can fix it? I've tried a variety of video formats but nothing > >>> seems to make a difference. Also, when it flashes to the opposite > >>> colors, it looks like the resolution changes. Weird. > >>> > >>> I would greatly appreciate any and all tips and suggestions. > >>> > >>> Pall > >>> > >>> -- > >>> ***************************** > >>> Pall Thayer > >>> artist > >>> http://pallthayer.dyndns.org > >>> ***************************** > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > ***************************** > > Pall Thayer > > artist > > http://pallthayer.dyndns.org > > ***************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of Environmentalism", by Curtis White

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