Pd-list September 2010

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Introduction to elementary filter components in Pd
by brandon zeeb 12 Sep '10

12 Sep '10

Greetings, So I'm reading Miller's book hoping for a real world explanation of the elementary filter objects in Pd (z~, rpole~, czero~, etc). Unfortunately, this only occupies 3-4 pages. Does anyone have a set of tutorials, abstractions, or are their any documents available which go into further detail into these objects? For starters, I'd like to build a few simple classic filter types (ie: lpf, hpf w/ recirculation). lop~, hip~, and bp~ are nice, and one can build recirculating filters with these, but they don't offer audio-rate control of filter cutoff. So, for an intermediate to advanced Pd user who would like know more about this real, what would you recommend? Thanks, ~Brandon

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Re: [PD] prime numbers
by Kim Cascone 12 Sep '10

12 Sep '10

> > 1 is not a prime number. (9 is not a prime number either) > yes thanks for catching that -- I had mistakenly typed in odd numbers, not prime > then your ascii art is not coming out properly because you don't use a > > fixed-width font. see how it comes out here : > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2010-09/082440.html > yikes! sorry about that I use a font in T'bird that isn't fixed-width > then I'm wondering why you use [list-dripslow] instead of [list-drip]. so I can bang out one prime number at a time and use it as |mod p| where p is prime

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Re: [PD] prime numbers
by Kim Cascone 12 Sep '10

12 Sep '10

I typed in odd numbers - except for '2' of course! :\

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Re: [PD] Hi, new user. Question about max/msp and PD
by Damian Stewart 11 Sep '10

11 Sep '10

On 11 Sep 2010, at 12:00, Juan Manuel Jones wrote: > "I like the free-software nature of PD, but besides that, I want to > know the pros and cons of the two environments. > Max is "prettier" and with more GUI, but is really more easy to learn? > Im not interested in video, only music and sound. What about resources > (patches, objets, etc)?" i think both Max/MSP and Pd are similar in terms of how much you have to bend your brain to understand the dataflow paradigm. in other words, they're essentially the same system, just with different clothes. the Max GUI is much better than the Pd GUI, from the perspective of usability and polish (not surprising since as a commercial company Cycling74 can afford to employ people to work on the GUI full time i guess). that aside, if you want to get into the guts of things, I'd go with Pd. the community is very helpful. also the tutorials that come with Pd are superb, if you're patient enough to go through them all a couple of times (i'm talking about Help->Browser->2.control.examples and 3.audio.examples). agree with you that the manual is a bit heavy. i haven't used Max extensively but coming from Pd i find it frustrating sometimes -- it seems to be less consistent that Pd, seems to crash in more random places, and it seems like it's more work to make modular re-usable systems with it. hth d -- damian stewart . @damiannz . damian(a)frey.co.nz frey . contemporary art . http://www.frey.co.nz

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return a list of externals
by Kim Cascone 11 Sep '10

11 Sep '10

is there a way to get a list of all the externals used in a patch? other than by hand of course... I see nothing in pd --help

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Re: [PD] [pd~]+gem=bug
by cyrille henry 10 Sep '10

10 Sep '10

i think you should... cyrille Le 10/09/2010 21:06, stéfan piat a écrit : > no, > > in the patch open with pd~ I use no sound stuffs... > just gem > > 2010/9/10 cyrille henry <ch(a)chnry.net <mailto:ch@chnry.net>> > > do you have a loadbang on a [pd psd 1;< on the patch opend with pd~ ? > > cyrille > > Le 10/09/2010 20:45, stéfan piat a écrit : > > hello, > > I notice a bug using the pd~ object > it's with pd-extended 0.42.5-rc5 on osx.10.6 with a > macbookpro(corei7) > > when I launch a new instance of pd using the pd~ object > that instance is supposed to open a gem window and the gemwindow > open > but i can't render anything > (if it matters the main instance play sounds (adc~ + dac~)) > (and it works if I open that second patch normally) > > with pd-extended 0.42.5-rc5 on osx 10.5.8 with a > macbook(core2duo) no > problem > > > best, > stéfan > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@iem.at> mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >

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[pd~]+gem=bug
by stéfan piat 10 Sep '10

10 Sep '10

hello, I notice a bug using the pd~ object it's with pd-extended 0.42.5-rc5 on osx.10.6 with a macbookpro(corei7) when I launch a new instance of pd using the pd~ object that instance is supposed to open a gem window and the gemwindow open but i can't render anything (if it matters the main instance play sounds (adc~ + dac~)) (and it works if I open that second patch normally) with pd-extended 0.42.5-rc5 on osx 10.5.8 with a macbook(core2duo) no problem best, stéfan

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web client
by Jordi Sala 10 Sep '10

10 Sep '10

Hi list, I'd like to know if there is a web client object (or patch) for pd. Thanks a lot! -- Jordi Sala http://musa.poperbu.net

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Font weirdness with 0.43test
by Frank Barknecht 10 Sep '10

10 Sep '10

Hi, attached screenshot shows a comparison of the font, I use with Pd on Debian Squeeze: FreeMono. I start Pd with "-font-face FreeMono", no size or weight options. My patches usually use size 10 as default, this also is used on the screenshot. It seems that 0.43 scales the font to be one step too small. 0.42 has about the same size as the GVim I also show as comparison. Is this expected behaviour or amy I doing something wrong? I can fix the size difference by adding "-font-size 12" to the startup options or probably by some tcl hacking, but actually I was hoping, that the GUI reqrite would finally allow me to avoid using startup options for basic GUI configuration and behave more like normal software. Ciao -- Frank

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Some questions about Toxy (pd command)
by Raphael Raccuia 09 Sep '10

09 Sep '10

Hi list, I'm trying to control some Tk GUI's with toxy scripts... I understood some concept, but there's still a lot of darkness... -I have to get a string out of a [tow . symbol id], in this case content of the symbol (Tk's 'entry') GUI. I get it with get[]. I took the doc's example (examples/toxy/listbox-example.pd), but I don't understand this line (var substituted...): pd [concat .| _cb set [.- get [.- curselection]] how to use pd [] ? what doe's mean _cb? -Why do we have to use escapes? .( .) .: etc... -isn't there any consistent documentation? I just found this (unachieved): http://suita.chopin.edu.pl/~czaja/miXed/externs/toxy.html -Is the project going on? Thank's

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