Pd-list September 2010

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pix_share_write/pix_share_read: missing message in help file
by Husk 00 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

Hi list! I'm working with this two object and I noticed there is a message argument is not declared in the help file. It is the "set" message with all option of the objects (I guess). Should be good add it to the current help file. How does it works for Gem? Should I register on some svn repository? cheers husk -- when Art become pratical we call it technology. When Technology become useless we call it Art www.estereotips.net

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Re: [PD] cord "id" / selfdestruction patch.
by servando barreiro 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

> a cord has no explicit id. > however, you can identify it if you know the id of the objects it connects. doesn't a cord has an explicit id in the pd file, like "#X connect 102 0 79 0;"? in fact, it would be nice to display these numbers (or the coordenates of objects) when someone is trying to do dynamic patching, for example. > anyhow, if you want to change the data flow for messages(!), you should > be able to do anything you want with [spigot] and friends, with less > impact on the performance of Pd. - I don´t think deleting cords has impact on the performance of pd.. exactly, maybe you don't need a cord. you can also use [route tag1 tag2 ...] with tags for the different states. - What I want to achieve It´s a self- destruction patch.. that just will work during a certain amount of time and conditions... Out of this conditions, and just when "starting" the patch, the "bomb" should be released and the patch should be as destroyed and unusable as possible... what leads me to the conclussion that I don´t need to know the id of an specific cord when I can disconnect all !!.. but anyway. I find practic to know the id of the cords to experiment w dynamic & generative stuff.. [thanks!] for the help and sorry for my bad skills editing e-mail... [...]

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Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 & 32 bits
by Ricardo Lameiro 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

@bernardo. you should compare also how many employees does red hat have and canonical. and also red hat wasnt always the saint you think. people like ubuntu because are tired to config things everytime. so even if they contribute less i dont care. its open source. the code is there Em 2010/09/14 01:53, "Bernardo Barros" <bernardobarros2(a)gmail.com> escreveu: I think RedHat, Novell, IBM, Google are some of the institutions that send more patches to the kernel. There are a lot of independent and anonymous guys too. Maybe people at University? I don't know. BUT Canonical are not one of those companies. Maybe for GNOME. But I think the most exciting desktop development are happening with KDE/Qt anyway. 2010/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at>: > > Canonical does do a lot of GNOME development...

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cord "id"
by servando barreiro 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

Hi!. Is there a way to know the "id" of a certain connection/ cord in a patch?, basically I would like to change the functionality of a patch depending on the conditions that this patch is started. thanks. s

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[PD-announce] chdh performances
by cyrille henry 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

chdh is a project I have with Nicolas Montgermont. It's a audiovisual performance using only pd. The next performances are : 17 september 2010 : frischzelle / performance / Düsseldorf (de) http://www.zeitkunst.eu/frischzelle/prog.php?volnum=13 02 october 2010 : tskz / performance + workshop / La Chaux-de-Fonds (ch) http://www.tskz.ch/home/tskz10-1 03 october 2010 : Espace Gantner/ performance / Bourogne / 17h / free access. (fr) http://www.espacemultimediagantner.cg90.net/ 18 november 2010 : Ars Numérica / lecture + performance / Montbéliard (fr) http://www.ars-numerica.net/ more informations : http://www.chdh.net Cyrille _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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[PD-announce] Noise of Cologne 1
by Frank Barknecht 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

This new CD will be available soon showcasing some electronic/noise/impro/... music from Cologne, Germany. See below for the press release. At least two tracks were made with Pure Data: 03. Frank Barknecht - Beauty 04. Siegfried Koepf - Square Maybe others tracks use Pd as well, but that I don't know Press release from http://noiseofcologne.blogspot.com/ Here you will also find the latest reviews. I posted about this CD a while ago as well on my site: http://footils.org/2010/08/24/noise-cologne/ You can listen to my track "Beauty" there. It's a track I also performed at the pd~convention in Montreal. Now the press release: Noise of Cologne 1 - Various Artists Label: Mark e.V. / Vertrieb: a-Musik Release date: 15.10.10 There is hardly another city where the local musical activities are so thoroughly documented as they are in Cologne. In the home of the Rhein and the Cathedral, they are proud of the „Sound of Cologne“, which usually refers to electronica or minimal techno. And this is exactly the kind of music that the compilation series „The Sound of Cologne“ is devoted to. This sound had its heyday in the mid-90s with record labels like Kompakt or the EMI offshoot Harvest. Now that the buzz surrounding Cologne's club music has slightly died down, the path is clear for less popular music, but music with a more far reaching tradition. Of course, the title „Noise of Cologne“ (NoC) refers to the above mentioned Cologne sampler, and so to a trademark that the city bestowed upon itself. But NoC is not proclaiming the identity of some scene; rather it is highlighting a musical creativity that has so far been drowned out by the club sound. That said we are not just referring to noise as a musical style, with its raw energy and physicality. It's not just about noise in the literal sense of the word. Frank Dommert, owner of the Cologne based label sonig, co-manager of a-Musik and curator of the NoC compilation, doesn't want to construe the term “noise” that strictly. NoC is much more designed to show the variety of experimental - often noisy, music from Cologne. It is thanks to Dommert's enormous knowledge of and sensitivity for music that this representation does not for one come across as boring. Quite the contrary, the wealth of composed and spontaneously improvised music from Cologne is so rich that it's one pleasant surprise after the other. For example, Harald Muenz's backwards version of Ravel's Boléro, which builds in tempo just like the original. Or Volker Hennes' synthesizer-sirens. Track 6 is a concept-piece; a very tangible piece of new music for piano, small ensemble and electronics - with theme and variation. Or there's curious but friendly synthesizer music. Then we have travelling music in the form of C-Schulz and F.X.Randomiz's train-composition „Das Ohr am Gleis“ (Trans. ear to the tracks). The energetic, eventful „Überschreitungen des Pragmatismus“ (Trans. Transgressions of pragmatism) by Lehn and Schmickler. Or the quite simply marvellous piece by Bernd Härpfer for six spoken voices. All this makes NoC a sensory and intellectual treat of the very finest kind. For on the one hand one can let oneself get carried away by this constantly surprising collection. On the other hand, there's a special enjoyment to be had from the eye-opening liner notes by Joachim Ody, which will allow you to discover new composers or understand composition techniques. It is a credit to the Cologne composers Herbert Eimert and Karlheinz Stockhausen that electronic music has become such a significant part of the pallet of modern composition. In this sense, NoC documents the extrapolation of a firmly rooted Cologne tradition. The number “1” at the end of this compilation title bears hope: another instalment will follow. Pressrequests: AUTOPILOT, Guido Möbius, guido (at) autopilotmusic (dot) com _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Hi, new user. Question about max/msp and PD
by jm jones 14 Sep '10

14 Sep '10

Hi, Im learning PD-Max/msp. Im trying both, and seems that learning one helps learn the other. I like the free-software nature of PD, but besides that, I want to know the pros and cons of the two environments. Max is "prettier" and with more GUI, but is really more easy to learn? Im not interested in video, only music and sound. What about resources (patches, objets, etc)? Max forums seems more active than the pd, I hope this list is more active : ) Besides that, congrats to all the pd developers, its really great to have this awesome free soft. Cheers from Patagonia, Argentina. -- Juan Manuel Jones

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loading sound from pd into csoundapi
by ronni montoya 13 Sep '10

13 Sep '10

Hello everybody, im using csound with pd using csoundapi, Im not really a csound guy so i been mostly experimenting with csound codes made by other, like granular synthesis codes. If i want to send a parameter from pd to csound i just add this line in csound: gk3 invalue "grain_size" I was wondering how can a do for loading sounds in csound from pd. i would like to have different options like sound1.wav, sound2.wav , sound3.wav. as pd messages and then just select from pd the sound i want to load into csound. Do anybody know can i do this in csound/pd? This is my code in csound with the sound i would like to change from pd: <CsScore> f1 0 0 1 "kukon.aif" 0 0 1 f2 0 1025 20 2 1 i1 0 3600 </CsScore> thanks in advance Ronni

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Re: [PD] object to get pdversion/tclversion/basedir
by Jonathan Wilkes 13 Sep '10

13 Sep '10

--- On Thu, 9/9/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> wrote: > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] object to get pdversion/tclversion/basedir > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancsika(a)yahoo.com> > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 6:59 PM > > On Sep 9, 2010, at 3:49 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > > --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> > wrote: > > > >> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> > >> Subject: Re: [PD] object to get > pdversion/tclversion/basedir > >> To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancsika(a)yahoo.com> > >> Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > >> Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 4:12 AM > >> > >> On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Jonathan Wilkes > wrote: > >> > >>> --- On Thu, 9/2/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner > <hans(a)at.or.at> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> > >>>> Subject: Re: [PD] object to get > >> pdversion/tclversion/basedir > >>>> To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancsika(a)yahoo.com> > >>>> Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > >>>> Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 11:57 > PM > >>>> > >>>> Digging thru my backlog... in Pd-extended > there > >> is > >>>> > >>>> hcs/version > >>>> tcl/tcl_version > >>>> ggee/getdir > >>>> > >>>> I agree, it would be nice to have the > About Pd > >> page be a Pd > >>>> patch. If you make one, I'll include > it in > >> Pd-extended > >>>> 0.43. > >>> > >>> Ok, here's a 1st attempt. It would look > a lot > >> better if I used > >>> [entry] to display the Pd version (and > possibly tcl > >> version) but > >>> that object is too buggy to use. > >>> > >>> The links work assuming about.pd lives in > >> doc/5.reference. > >>> > >>> Btw- > >>> /usr/lib/pd-extended/LICENSE.txt, referred to > in the > >>> current "about pd" textfile, doesn't exist on > my > >> machine. > >>> > >>> -Jonathan > >> > >> I like the sparks and credits animation! > Where is > >> this file designed > >> to go in the file system? I think probably the > best place > >> would be in > >> lib/pd/doc/about.pd > > > > I made the pddplinks relative to > > doc/5.reference > > > > Here's a revision with the Pd logo. > > > Ok, I'm adding it to Pd-extended right now :) The > only change I made > was to make the Tcl version use only "." to separate the > numbers, not > "-" And here's another revision to add little dropping bng circles from the Pd logo, as well as a button inside the pd logo to make it easy to clear all the ds instances before saving changes. -Jonathan > > .hc > > > > > >> > >> .hc > >> > >> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> .hc > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jul 31, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Jonathan > Wilkes > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Is there an object to get the > pdversion? If so > >> it > >>>> would be nice to > >>>>> replace the "Help->About Pd" > textfile with > >> a pd > >>>> patch so the links could > >>>>> be clickable. (Also, it would then be > possible > >> to do > >>>> some rolling credits, > >>>>> as often happens in an "About this > Software" > >> window.) > >>>>> > >>>>> -Jonathan > >>>>> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Programs should be written for people to read, and only > incidentally > for machines to execute. > - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer > Programs > >

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Re: [PD] Guitar distortion (Chebyshev?)
by Kim Cascone 13 Sep '10

13 Sep '10

couldn't locate the Smeck.pd download on the link posted for Miller's page but here is the direct link in case you couldn't find it: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/smeck/latest/smeck-01.zip

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